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10:18 pm, Nov 7 2011
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Hi again! This time I'm looking for a twisted relationship. For example, in shoujos we often see a weak girl with a cool or strong or abusive guy. This makes me bored, so I wanna look some mangas with a 100% reversed role.

Meeting, at least, one of these features would be great:

*The male should be weaker than the girl, to the point you think they're mistaken.
*They may contain co-dependent characters in a violent environment, but isn't absolutely necessary.
*Don't mind if his appearance is girly
*Their relationship is so extreme that we can classify the guy as uke and the girl as seme.

Examples could be:
Ai wo Utau Yori Ore ni Oborero!
Sekine-kun no Koi
Kinjirareta Ai no Kajitsu, story 1.

I looked into the Reverse Gender Roles category and didn't find many series.

Even though these requirements fit perfectly any Yaoi, Yuri or H stuff, please not them this time.
Thanks in advance!

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What you reading are shoujos/joseis. What you looking for are shounens/seinens...
^__^
example Ah! My Goddess
Witch Craft Works

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B Gata H Kei its ecchi but its hilarious as well and the girl MC is an EXTREME tsundere!! xD

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Quote from mu2020
What you reading are shoujos/joseis. What you looking for are shounens/seinens...


Well, not exactly shounen/seinen, but as long as it fits the requirements and romance isn't a subplot is OK. The thing is that I don't like that the plot goes downhill just for the pervy scenes (very often in these genres), so in this case is more suitable Sekine-kun no Koi . Btw, I'll take a look at Ah! My Goddess.

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B Gata H Kei its ecchi but its hilarious as well and the girl MC is an EXTREME tsundere!! xD


I haven't read ecchi mangas in my life XD, but I'll give it a chance.

Any other out there?


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Hoozuki-san Chi no Aneki is really good. Although its only 3 volumes long, you'll love the relationship between the guy and girl.

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I think these would fits:
Aku no Hana: the male lead is very very weak, he makes me want to punch him... it has really dark story, IMO.
Boku to Kanojo no XXX: a bit weird, sometimes ecchi but funny... I think it's rather similar to sundome
Choku!
Magetsukan Kitan: well, it's ecchi... but I think the fan service is rather tolerable...

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Operation Liberate Men (sadly in hiatus) and Nu'er Guo Chuanqi: ShengNan Pian are both about a whole society were the roles are extremely reversed.

Itadakimasu may work too if you stand the smut, Pump Up! is pretty cute tale but without any trace of abuse, just like the utterly adorable Otomen, and you could even give Mahou Tsukai Kurohime a chance if you're willing to suffer through the first arc and forgive the rushed ending.

For one-shots and such, story 3 of Yumenara Samenaide is a personal favourite of mine, also Kuroneko Guardian .

And you definitely want to check Seitokai Yakuindomo , even if just for the lulz.

A lot of those have genderbender elements, but I guess that's natural given the circumstances. I have a few more ideas, but they are either borderline H or too ecchi to be mentioned on the public forum.

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Check "weak male leads" or "strong female leads" i agree you will find alot more of this theme in shounen than shojo.

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I agree with Sera2fin, but I'll also recommend both Sundome and Oniichan Control. They're both ecchi, but each is quite engrossing in its own way.

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Quote from Sera2fin
Check "weak male leads" or "strong female leads" i agree you will find alot more of this theme in shounen than shojo.

See....

Anyway adding up
Yandere Kanojo
Spice and Wolf
And again Witch Craft Works especially the "because you're my princess part" is exacly what you're looking for..
Nana to Kaoru probably not you're taste

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1/2 Prince / 1/2 Prince (Novel) - this series has multiple versions of this sort of relationship. The romance is a tad slow with the protagonist, but the side couples tend to fit the same idea. Examples:
Spoiler (mouse over to view)
Fairsky takes the lead in her relationship with Sunshine, and Sunshine follows her around like a cute little puppy.

Yu Lian's marriage to Wolf was only possible due to her perseverance, and she manages their financial matters, chastising her husband if he spends too much.

Caelus loves Doll, and when Doll strictly tells him what she wants and doesn't want, Caelus happily obeys as long as he stays at her side.

End spoiler:
Spoiler (mouse over to view)
Feng Lan gets married to Gui wearing a tuxedo and wedding dress respectively. And since Feng Lan hates pain but still wants a child, Gui decides to get pregnant instead (sci-fi technology).


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Quote from yuri999
Hoozuki-san Chi no Aneki is really good. Although its only 3 volumes long, you'll love the relationship between the guy and girl.

This one looks very good!

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I think these would fits:
Aku no Hana: the male lead is very very weak, he makes me want to punch him... it has really dark story, IMO.
Boku to Kanojo no XXX: a bit weird, sometimes ecchi but funny... I think it's rather similar to sundome
Choku!
Magetsukan Kitan: well, it's ecchi... but I think the fan service is rather tolerable...

First 2 and Choku! are quite nice!

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Operation Liberate Men (sadly in hiatus) and Nu'er Guo Chuanqi: ShengNan Pian are both about a whole society were the roles are extremely reversed.

Itadakimasu may work too if you stand the smut, Pump Up! is pretty cute tale but without any trace of abuse, just like the utterly adorable Otomen, and you could even give Mahou Tsukai Kurohime a chance if you're willing to suffer through the first arc and forgive the rushed ending.

For one-shots and such, story 3 of Yumenara Samenaide is a personal favourite of mine, also Kuroneko Guardian .

And you definitely want to check Seitokai Yakuindomo , even if just for the lulz.

A lot of those have genderbender elements, but I guess that's natural given the circumstances. I have a few more ideas, but they are either borderline H or too ecchi to be mentioned on the public forum.

I've seen Operation Liberate Men in the Reversed Gender Roles, and I'm planning on read it. I like almost all of those mangas. I think there'll be no problem at all with smut in shoujo/josei, but I can't stand it in shounen/seinen because it becomes like non-sense and disgusting ecchi situations. And I'm very very grateful with the oneshots, they make up 80% of my finished list, and you gave me 2 nice stories.

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Check "weak male leads" or "strong female leads" i agree you will find alot more of this theme in shounen than shojo.

You're right as mu2020, that's why I asked for some exceptions. It's kinda contradictory, but I'm looking for a midpoint between them, i.e., a manga with a shoujo plot and shounen characters (excluding the corny and the perversion style, respectively).

Actually I checked Strong Female Leads, but there must be something wrong with mangakas. I've picked up titles from there and the girls are strong just one chapter and then are totally and stupidly head over heels with the guy. The Weak Male Lead resembles the Shoujo with Male Lead and there's a bunch (it'll take some time ^.^), for that reason I prefer your recommendations first.


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I agree with Sera2fin, but I'll also recommend both Sundome and Oniichan Control. They're both ecchi, but each is quite engrossing in its own way.


Incest is still weird for me (not thaaat perverted yet), but thanks!

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See....

Anyway adding up
Yandere Kanojo
Spice and Wolf
And again Witch Craft Works especially the "because you're my princess part" is exacly what you're looking for..
Nana to Kaoru probably not you're taste



Yeah, definitely not Nana to Kaoru. I skipped Witch Craft Works for the girl's quite exaggerated body, but I read the comments of a guy saying that the male lead is "pitiful" and seems nice now ^.^ I really like Yandere Kanojo plot and art.

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1/2 Prince / 1/2 Prince (Novel) - this series has multiple versions of this sort of relationship. The romance is a tad slow with the protagonist, but the side couples tend to fit the same idea. (...)



Ok, I couldn't avoid but read all the spoiler frame XD, and I have to say that this is super interesting. I'm not in a hurry and it's been so long since I stuck into an ongoing of this type.

Thank you all for your help!
If someone else has another idea, is welcome.
*Yes, I have so much spare time*

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Quote from StephKuran
Quote from Blique
1/2 Prince / 1/2 Prince (Novel) - this series has multiple versions of this sort of relationship. The romance is a tad slow with the protagonist, but the side couples tend to fit the same idea. (...)


Ok, I couldn't avoid but read all the spoiler frame XD, and I have to say that this is super interesting. I'm not in a hurry and it's been so long since I stuck into an ongoing of this type.


Yay~ The manhua is quite good, but the novel goes more in-depth in regards to gender roles, so I recommend the latter more. smile Or both if you wish. XD

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I totaly second Witchcraft Works. You could also try Matsuri Special and Otome Youkai Zakuro (there is also an anime). Both of those are very shoujo, despite not being classified as such.

There is also Tasogare Otome x Amnesia.

Change 2! - The male lead is anything but weak there, but the female lead completly ovetshadows him.

Change 123 - Quite good despite being an ecchi series.

Mamoru-kun ni Megami no Shukufuku o! (anime)

P.S. Posting on a phone is a pain.

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