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6:06 pm, Dec 21 2007
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you know i want know just how jaraiya compares to the other sannin. like back couple of hundred chapter when naruto first met itachi he ran away because jairaya interrupted. Does this mean he's stronger then itachi who in turn was one of the strongest atsuki from what we know. if he's stronger then itachi does that mean if both he and orchimaru fought at full power he would win.

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Well, I think Orochi lost because he uses illusion techniques, which can be easily defeated by the Sharingan.
Whereas, Jiraiya uses physical attacks and ninjitsu techniques that don't require seals.

So if Orochi and Jiraiya fought at full strength, they would probably be pretty even, as each fall to the others technique. ^_^ At least so I believe.

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Im not sure if this is true, but i heard an interesting story about the origin of the sharigan came from a Madara, who was a half-demon. Madara's mother was a byakugan user, and his father was the tengu-demon king.

If this story is confirmed true, then I know Uchiha Itachi's intentions.

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Your right. I wish I could find some info on Madara.

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great chapter

Jiraiya died and after what we've seen Tsunade doing I hope we see a bit action from her side soon
finaly a new Sasuke vs Itachi fight!
Tobi is Madara but perhaps in Obitos body, we still have to wait for it to be confirmed...

well I'm REALLY looking forward to it.Has to be a good battle after the last one

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it was known all the time that Zetsu has two personalities laugh
and Hinata also said "H-hai" and thought how good it is that Naruto's alright biggrin

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I don't know why, the art seemed kind of sucky in this chapter.. biggrin Though that didn't take anything away from the story development...

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gahhh, why did he have to die, that is soooo not cool, great chapter tho, cant wait to see what happens with sasuke and itachi

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well he couldn't quite be in Danzou because then his character would change and since Danzou is pretty well known in Konoha they would notice.but you are allowed to believe whatever you will before one or the other gets confirmed(and I hope it WILL be confirmed)
some answer about the Uchihas were nice though

don't think someone will die or some other character will inherit a kekkei genkai from a dying user of it...

Sakura is the only medic right now,Hinata has no such abilities.Also Shinos bugs aren't really healing,they only ate the poison but I'm not sure if this could be used for anyone outside of the Aburame clan(guess not since other people aren't used to have bugs in their bodies)

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That's not going to happen. That sort of stuff only happens in fanfics.

One of the themes of "Naruto" is that Naruto became a great ninja without having a bloodline limit(like Sasuke's Sharingan) or being a quick learner (like Sakura's Chakra Manipulation)... So I don't see that happening.

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won't his character change if he's obito? or do you mean danzou's character? seeing as how he has quite possibly the least panel time of all the characters in the narutoverse he doesn't really have. one except for the opinions of others we don't know much.

i think you misread what i stated about naruto gaining the byakugan. if you notice the comparison i make to kakashi, why couldn't sakura do that for naruto?


IF Obito was still alive at the time Madara went to his body then his character would also change.but because everyone though Obito is dead there's no problem with it.
As I said if Madara would inherit Danzous body people in Konoha would notice the character change so it's not quite possible or at least the Obito version is more likely to happen

I didn't misread it, I just have the same opinion as Dr.Love stated above

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Well, I hope that Team Kurenai will actually do something, and show some 'wicked' techniques... laugh

But Naruto had to work for it to get his power... Just like he trained day and night with Yamato & Kakashi, so that he could learn the Fuuton Rasengan Shuriken...

And the nine-tails is a different story... I mean, besides that he's perfectly normal... Just a normal kid, who has trouble with learning things, but despite all off that he still does his best... And he actually succeeds...

Also with the way "Naruto" is going, I don't think Naruto himself will use the Kyuubi anytime soon... A perfect example would be the Kakuzu fight, where he didn't used the Kyuubi's chakra even once... He's determined to not use that power anymore, for the sake of his friends and himself...

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if you take it like that then almost everyone has some kind of healing power!
be it the bugs from Aburame clan,chakra control from the Hyuuga clan or the knowledge of healing plans from the Inuzuka clan
I don't see the point there,it's still not healing jutsu
yes,maybe Hinata does have some kind of healing ability but it's no medical ninjutsu like the one from Sakura.so NO,there are no other medical ninja besides Sakura in this team
Sorry but you have to build theories on facts,not the other way round

you just don't get what I'm talking about.it doesn't matter what I know about those two,it matters what Konohagakure or Akatsuki knows about them!
Tsunade for example knows quite a lot about Danzou, she knew him for several years.if he were to suddenly change his personality she and all other people who knows him would notice.that's all there's to it!
I already said that you can believe whatever you want but don't try to convince me with something I don't believe in
We don't know anything about Uchiha Madara,he could have his body,he could be in Obitos body or he could be in any other body but we just don't know (yet).so everyone is free to believe what he wants but you can't really convince other people without some real hard evidence(and I mean EVIDENCE no ideas or theories)

to be the child of a Hokage doesn't mean anything-it's not like a the child of a king has to become a king himself someday, it depends on the village who will become Hokage
and if you look only a bit on Minatos character you should know we wasn't the kind of person who would seal the Kyubi just in anyone,he used his own child so nobody else had to suffer.and he perhaps hoped that Naruto will overcome the Kyubi and becomes a strong shinobi
before you argue again with me let me say this: at least Narutos dad was a really strong shinobi so there's a high possibility Naruto inherits this strenght.and this strenght may let it look like he's really special.because this strenght lies within his DNA but it's nothing like a kekken genkai

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now I wonder what you imagine under those "wicked techniques" bigrazz

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it's still not healing jutsu!
I wasn't actually talking about Hana,it's true that she as a vet propably knows some medical jutsus but what I was talking about were the healing plans Kiba used once.
Just live with the fact that in the Konoha team there is only one medical ninja and that is Sakura roll eyes
and untill Kishimoto draws something else it will be like this

I give up, your arguments are the same of people who believe Tobi is Obito(or his body),the same eye,same haircut,etc.

about everything else you wrote it's the same as above,I just give up.this isn't interesting at all and basicaly we have totaly different opinions and as I don't see facts in your posts you don't seem to see facts in mine
PERIOD
I've lost my interest in this disskusion...

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I don't want Jiraiya to die.He was so funny. dead

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Quote from dirkbogardeonaproxy
ino is a medical ninja. check your facts. i like people who don't understand what they're saying biggrin

i bet you had to google osteopath biggrin

and i think missing the same eye is a little more coincidental than the hair laugh

i love this disskusion. you have such unique opinions like the ones ever one else has.


guess you have to check your facts,Ino isn't on the Konoha team right now roll eyes
(that's actually what I was talking about,you tend to make up stuff but your not the author of this series)
btw if you like people who don't know what their saying then you have to love yourself,huh?

if you believe I have unique opinions then you are free to.I also believe a lot stuff about you but I better not list it bigrazz

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