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strixflash
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Plot holes(or writing problems/error) in bleach are mmon. I just wanted to see the list of all plot holes.
Kubo tells one thing and do other thing.
1.Shinigami dying,Marriage and give birth.
2.Death ones in shinigami world dying(Rukia sister).
3.Firstly shinigami cant fly and wow after soul society arc,they can.
4.Chad's power as a result of Ichigo and then it is revealed as fullbring.
5.Arrancer are more powerful than Captain level Shinigami and then they are easily defeated.
6.Urahara exiled or he ran away.
7.Viazaado(or whatever) gained powers through their spells and later said by Aizen. Urahara was there when Isshin was explaining.
8.Impossible explaination for happenings around Ichigo. Hougyoku explaination.
And many....well do help me to find all confused

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pletar
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Ooh! I'll try answering these... (Oh, and since most of these are spoilers anyway, I won't bother with the tag).

1. Unknown. The funny thing is, I was wondering the same thing yesterday myself, so that's weird. Well, the whole marriage and birth thing anyway.
2. Reincarnated on Earth, and vice versa. Perhaps shinigami babies are babies that have died on Earth?
3. Pretty sure they could before soul society arc (Renji and Byakuya capturing Rukia, and also the first page of Bleach with Rukia).
4. Hougyouku caused it like that?
5. No, they actually managed to defeat most Captains at one point, until the Vizards showed up.
6. Read Turn Back the Pendulum, which is like 9 chapters covering Urahara's exile and the creation of the Vizards.
7. Spells is what Soul Society probably believed (Isshin wasn't present at their creation by Aizen), and Urahara probably didn't see the need to correct him (again, read Turn Back the Pendulum).
8. Ichigo.... has the power to... improve immensely... partly due to.... half-shinigami heritage?
Also, the Hougyoku doesn't actually break down the barrier between shinigami and hollow, but instead grants the deepest desire of those around it if the person has the ability to achieve it in the first place. Does that make sense? Also, everybody only thought that it broke down earlier said barrier because that's what Urahara was aiming to do at the time.

And that's it! Please correct me if I'm wrong in any way.

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Yeap yeap

1. Shinigami or person(or soul?) in soul society died.
Where are their soul going?
Human died then went there, then if they died again there, where did they go?
Back to the human's world?

2. Wedding between Shinigami and Human
I don't wanna live on this planet anymore...

I mean, if there's no different between Shinigami and Human, why doesn't he just make an organization or whatever, than made some other creatures...

Well, I still love Bleach though...

All hail Hitsugaya



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The biggest plot hole for me is the first chapter. Basically both Ichigo's sisters were about to get killed and yet Ichigo's father didn't do anything. Then after Hundreds of chapter Isshin is revealed to be a really strong shinigami.
You'd think he would have choose to protect his daughters over hiding his identity,

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Quote from nesfe
The biggest plot hole for me is the first chapter. Basically both Ichigo's sisters were about to get killed and yet Ichigo's father didn't do anything. Then after Hundreds of chapter Isshin is revealed to be a really strong shinigami.
You'd think he would have choose to protect his daughters over hiding his identity,


Don't think he had his powers at the time. I think I remember a small exchange between Urahara and Isshin, something along the lines of "How does it feel to be back?"

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Plot holes(or writing problems/error) in bleach are mmon. I just wanted to see the list of all plot holes.
Kubo tells one thing and do other thing.
1.Shinigami dying,Marriage and give birth.
Answer: It was explained. Both worlds exist equally, souls are either reborn, absorbed as spirit particles, or go to a higher plane (promoted). The birth process is fuzzy since we've never seen someone born in the Soul Society. But, I'm guessing its done the same way as in the human world. Shinigami do get married. Kaien Shiba was married. Byakuya Kuchiki as well. Along with Isshin Kurosaki. The true plot hole here is 'How did Isshin lose his powers and end up married to a human?'
2.Death ones in shinigami world dying(Rukia sister).
Answer: Obviously illness occurs like in the human world to keep order. Survival of the fittest. Hisana obviously became spirit particles.
3.Firstly shinigami cant fly and wow after soul society arc, they can.
Answer: Think of it as Naruto uses Chakra to walk on trees and water. Shinigami in Bleach use their reiatsu to do the same on air.
4.Chad's power as a result of Ichigo and then it is revealed as fullbring.
Answer: He already had that power inside, Ichigo's leaking reiatsu brought it to the surface. Think of Ichigo as radioactive and caused certain people to evolve. Possible answer is a person doesn't need a shinigami parent but awakened by a shinigami.
5.Arrancer are more powerful than Captain level Shinigami and then they are easily defeated.
Answer: Only 0-9 Espada are above Captain level. The rest, arrancar, are about the strength of the Vice-Captains.
6.Urahara exiled or he ran away.
Answer: He was blamed for Aizen's experiment and rescued by Yoruichi at the time of his sentencing.
7.Viazaado(or whatever) gained powers through their spells and later said by Aizen. Urahara was there when Isshin was explaining.
Answer: It's Vizard. They are Soul Reapers who were exposed to the Hogyoku (excuse my spelling). It brings out Hollow powers. A Shinigami that loses his or her way, or loses their heart, can become hollowfied. So that is the danger of being a Soul Reaper.
8.Impossible explaination for happenings around Ichigo. Hougyoku explaination.
And many....well do help me to find all confused
Answer: Urahara had taken the Hogyoku to the human world, away from Aizen and placed it inside Rukia's gigai. The plan was for Rukia to lose her Shinigami power, become human, and eventually die from old age. This would have also killed the Hogyoku. But, she came in contact with Ichigo, awakened his Shinigami power. But, she wasn't in her gigai at that time. He came in contact with the Hogyoku on their first day at school.
True plot-holes
1) What happened to Grimmjow? He wasn't dead, just severely wounded.
2) What happened to Nel?
3) How did Isshin get kicked out of Soul Society?
4) Where is Byakuya's Grandfather?
5) If people in Soul Society are either reborn or particles, why did Rukia and Renji make graves for their friends in the Rukon?
6) Aizen should have been put to death for his crimes, whereas Rukia almost paid with her life for doing a lot less. Is there a double-standard in Bleach? Does this have to do with a caste system?
7) How is it that Orihime can live alone with no Adult Supervision? Yes, she gets help from relatives, but really, she would have either been taken in by said relative or thrown into foster care or orphanage.
8) The story behind Gin and Rangiku? It's still unclear what Aizen had done to her to force Gin to seek revenge.

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I have another one for you: Where is Kon? Seriously, he kind of just disappeared from the manga.

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pletar
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Re: Shinobimystress

Sorry in advance, but your questions are just easier to answer in a non-straight order (and I'm pretty sure the answers are 99% right).

Obviously, Isshin used Getsuga tenshou (final) sometime for some reason, which caused him to lose his powers. No longer a shinigami, he left soul society.

Nel and Grimmjow have been confirmed not dead by Kubo. I vaguely remember him saying that he was going to include them again sometime in the future. So by that extension, Kon will probably also be back in the future (we just haven't seen him).

Byakuya's grandfather is *probably* dead. or zero squad. No one knows.

Rukia and Renji buried their friends because even though they're reborn, their bodies are still there.

Aizen's immortal because of Hougyouku. Rukia's punishment of death was because of Aizen's hostile takeover of the legal system.

Orohime... um.... yeah.

Aizen stole part of Rangiku's soul for the Hougyouku, and Gin wanted to take it back for her.

Again, sorry if the answers seem a bit disjointed.

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