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Should Recreational Drugs become Legal

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Post #527691 - Reply to (#524268) by Highway-STAR
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11:53 pm, Mar 6 2012
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Quote from Highway-STAR
You mean worldwide? It's already legal in some countries.

And to answer your question; only light stuff like marijuana. What is your stance? Perhaps people should state whether they involve themselves in drugs, to make this more interesting.

i meant all drugs, world wide. basically should people be given the right to inject whatever they wish to inject into their own body.


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rychels
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First of all I think NO drugs should be legalized and I would be really happy if cigarettes were illegal as well.

And for everyone who says people should be free to put whatever they want in their bodies and do what they want to themselves- bull shit! Drugs impair your judgement and mess with your hormones. It doesn't just effect you, it will effect everyone you interact with. (The wacko who inhaled bath salts and ate someone's face off, anyone?)

Besides, we're (Americans) already over-medicated as it is. If you're sad, happy, angry, hurt, or overwhelmed, people will tell you to take a pill for it and it's not right.

Lastly, legalizing one thing will have a domino effect. It opens the door for other narcotics and substances to be legalized because people become desensitized. If there's no solid immovable line it becomes too easy to keep sliding it farther and farther back.

I never have and never will try drugs, I don't even like taking over the counter medications unless it's absolutely necessary.

BlackOrion
Post #570404 - Reply to (#570402) by rychels
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Quote from rychels
First of all I think NO drugs should be legalized and I would be really happy if cigarettes were illegal as well.

And for everyone who says people should be free to put whatever they want in their bodies and do what they want to themselves- bull shit! Drugs impair your judgement and mess with your ...


The first part is mostly an Opinion so i won't say a thing about that, but about the domino effect; i said bull shit.

In many European nations the cannabis i legal (in my country too) since quite some years and there had been no domino effect. If "necessary" people can just inhale gas-oil or adhesives which have terrible consequences on the body and will never be banned out of the market for obvious reasons.

also this chart from an economical perspective.

http://postimage.org/image/4dxn1goj3/

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Post #570416 - Reply to (#570404) by BlackOrion
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The first part is mostly an Opinion so i won't say a thing about that, but about the domino effect; i said bull shit.

In many European nations the cannabis i legal (in my country too) since quite some years and there had been no domino effect. If "necessary" people can just inhale gas-oi ...


Not everything is about money. And I think it is very very sad if that is what legalizing or not legalizing drugs boils down too.

And yes, people are retarded and if they really want to they will try to inhale anything. But why should governments condone or enable them? If someone was desperate or stupid enough to try to smoke gasoline or oil in order to get high they don't need legal weed to "mellow out" they need therapy. I realize these are the extreme cases and the topic is probably geared towards "recreational" self-medicating, but as you can see from my last post I believe that is wrong and will lead to an escalating and wide-spread problem.

Oh, and it's not just the first part, most of it is my opinion (except the bath salts guy and drugs messing with your mind and stuff). Maybe I should have added "I believe" more often into my last post. Sorry for the confusion.

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Quote from rychels
Not everything is about money. And I think it is very very sad if that is what legalizing or not legalizing drugs boils down too.

And yes, people are retarded and if they really want to they will try to inhale anything. But why should governments condone or enable them? If someone was desperate ...



There is no confusion, you said "legalizing one thing will have a domino effect", that is not an opinion, you are stating a fact that can be easily proven as fake.

Also, my point with the Adhesive thing is that banning non-dangerous drugs that were legal not too long ago. won't be of help when it comes to "preventing people from getting into worst things"

The chart is just an extra, Marijuana can be proven to have no long term effects (unless you smoke a whole bag in one go, but of-course even Aspirins can be dangerous if used too much) and since it have a relaxing effect it can't be count as a drug "that lead people into dangerous behavioured" so it's quite stupid to waste money when you could be making it with no real damage to anyone.

At worst you could end up attempting to eat a whole pizza in one go or talk to your dog while trying to solve a mystery.

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rychels
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My bad. It is MY PERSONAL BELIEF that legalizing one thing will have a domino effect. And I THINK that governments shouldn't enable drug usage, That is MY PERSONAL OPINION based on MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND VALUES.

Was that clear enough? Because I find you very antagonistic and I would like to just agree to disagree on this. This thread isn't about changing each other's opinions, it's about sharing them on the given topic. At this point we're only spamming and it's pointless. You can continue thinking drugs are harmless and I can continue thinking they're wrong. The End.

jasperv
Post #570575 - Reply to (#570438) by rychels
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I'm not for nor against
but personal opinion aside in a democracy popular opinion even uninformed have consequence on personal life
like for example the parliament banning or legalizing something
so I understand his outrage or frustration over this matter
so don't take offense over his post
from his POV he thinks that misinformed personal opinion is dangerous or have influence over his personal life (and you think the same)
well if that personal opinion was fringe that doesn't matter but when its wide spread it would affect his life style
so to cut to the chase it would be better to talk facts (put reference to studies ..etc)
and last personally I don't care if they are legalized or banned because I don't take drugs nor alcohol and I don't live in Europe nor in USA
but I'm against the war on drugs because it's a wast of money and human lives and infringe on liberties and divert resources that could be used to genetically engineer Moe Cat-girls smile

caitnap
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10:44 am, Sep 19 2012
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I don't really care, as long as you respect other ppl's privacy. "if you want to die,die alone"

but, I strongly disapprove of it in my own country to be made legal
why? because in my country smoking (cigar) is still not yet limited, ppl still smoke in public transport/place, how selling cigar to under 17 is the target of the company =.=

add marijuana, I don't even want to think how it will turn out...

Findy
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10:44 am, Sep 19 2012
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the world will be in chaos
while now the drugs still illegal the world already fucked up
imagine all those weeds pil roam freely in out convenience store like cigarette
more and more people will consume it and ultimately children elderly people will take the fall
shit like that should be thrown away before things get out of hand

BlackOrion
Post #571355 - Reply to (#570438) by rychels
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Quote from rychels
My bad. It is MY PERSONAL BELIEF that legalizing one thing will have a domino effect. And I THINK that governments shouldn't enable drug usage, That is MY PERSONAL OPINION based on MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND VALUES.

Was that clear enough? Because I find you very antagonistic and I would like to ...


You see, there is a difference between adding "i believe so" and something actually been an Opinion or a fact.

You stated that all drugs have terrible side effects and the like, and that can be proven to be false, you said the domino effect thing, yet in my country smooking Cannabis is legal since years ago and there is no Domino effect at sight (needless to said there is more evidence in all the European conurties where it's legal too) . ergo i'm just pointing that out. and i enjoy people's Jimmies getting rustled so keep going, you make me extremely happy.

People tends to have a lot misinformation about pot, you should ask your parents or grandparents, in the 60-80 about 80% of USA smoked weed, so there is a good chance your parents did too.

I would had answered earlier, but i overdose on shit and pass out for a week.




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Post #571366 - Reply to (#571355) by BlackOrion
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Quote from BlackOrion
People tends to have a lot misinformation about pot, you should ask your parents or grandparents, in the 60-80 about 80% of USA smoked weed, so there is a good chance your parents did too.


90% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Perhaps you should've added "I believe" or provided a creditable source for those statistics.



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Post #571394 - Reply to (#571366) by LawX
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Quote from LawX
90% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Perhaps you should've added "I believe" or provided a creditable source for those statistics.




I didn't exactly made that up, it's more of an estimation i read about in an article about the matter , but you got a point. the best i can prove is that about 500.000 duds were arrested in 1982, , but that is of little use since that probably ain't even half as much people used it, and the usage was heavier in the 70'

So until i get better evidence i will use a logic way of prooving it.
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Therefore it's true.


Also, it was probably about 47~% but 80 has such a nice ring to it... never the less you should ask you parents or grandparents, you might receive a nice surprise.




Also, also, I BELIVE, the earth is plain and the sun turns around it, so you can do nothing about it (even if you have obvious proofs, since it's my opinion)

Doesn't it sound silly when i exaggerate it to make you look bad?

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Post #571399 - Reply to (#524297) by aagcnet
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anyone that needs the use of some "substance" to recreate himself is pretty much a sorry life wanting to be ended.

laugh I can't believe anyone here has the balls to say that! I bet you're life is so awesome, sitting in your parents basement, and reading manga all day. Let alone posting seriously over 500 times here. You must have it easy, little boy. Not having much stress nor life experience would make somebody see that way I suppose. This post is about marijuana and everyone knows it. It's the true recreation drug since a LOT of people use it. Calling somebody's life sorry because they smoke pot... it just blows my mind how utterly stupid you are. I literally spit out my drink laughing when I read that. Oh no! Some one wants to relax and wind down by smoking pot! LMAO! A plant deemed illegal and demonized because hemp was cheap and strong and they didn't want it knocking out another product (it slips my memory, but I'm no historian anyways). It's proven to be more beneficial than harmful. Tobacco and alcohol is worse for your health than pot. Leave it to somebody who has never tried it to call it "bad" just because the law wants you to think that way. Ah, ignorance is bliss. I could go on for hours about how wrong you are about pot, but I'll just end it here. NOW, if you're talking about drugs in general, and I'm sure you are roll eyes , then I'll just stick my foot in my mouth.

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As a regular marijuana user unless you use it to early in life or are allergic to THC there aren't any side effects and it does no harm to you. so i don't really get why its not legal in the first place although i have heard a bunch of different theory's, but still as it really doesn't do any harm to your body and it doesn't give you an aggressive intoxication like alcohol does and to add the fact that its not harmful to your body like smoking is i do think it should be legal

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