hah. no more loli nuuuuu......

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Hahaha im so glad im not from a free contry like Americe where you can do what you like...or not
My country realy has no problem with what people read so informations like this one can only show me where i dont want to go ever!

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Which country is that? Anyhow, this is so ridiculous. Just because of the manga he bought, he was searched for child porn, which he didn't have, so the police just charges you for something else that's not even illegal. All the while, you lose all your stuff that you accumulated for so long. Really feel sorry for the guy.

This is pretty sick. Just before I get started I want to point out that this post is in no way meant to insult or offend any person in particular, I've got some friends in the US. This post is directed at the politics of the US. My views on the US and the hypocritical politics it drives isn't that high to begin with but it feels they just hit a new all-time low.

What's with the slogan " The land of the free"? If people have to be afraid of ordering manga (stories made by pictures and such which a slight resemblance to regular comics) just because they might face a trial and prosecution that slogan is the height of hypocrisy.

In that case, do they also prosecute people who read romance novels (where the contents can be quite graphic if I remember correctly) or for that matter Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler (or whatever they're called)? If that's so I'm sure quite a large number of US citizens (teenage boys for example) would probably be standing accused right about now.

It's just sad to see, considering for example that the politics of US (as well as quite a bit of their lifestyle) affects the rest of the world to such a degree.

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This is just STUPID.
This is why I'm scared to buy manga. I live in a pretty liberal state but a somewhat smaller town, so to get manga I'd have to go to the city or get it through mail. I can't trust that my privacy will be protected so I do neither.
Shouldn't they be spending their time on actual child predators, or stopping people from being forcefully whored for money. There are women, children and men being enslaved in this country and the government is focusing on manga. Do they not have more important issues to take care of.

*donated to the cause*

Of all the things that people are concerned about. This is the stupidest. Good money wasted on something so trival. I really hope that that guy gets off. I feel that people should buy and read what they want to read, granted, some genres like yaoi, shota/loli, hentai, horror, etc aren't my thing. But the important thing to remember is that manga is NOT REAL! If they want to charge "obscene" and "objectionable," go charge those buying/downloding real porn.

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Not that I am a flag-waving nationalist in the slightest, but there are all these posts talking about how "awful" it is in the United States so I thought I should say a little something in defense of my tuft of dirt on this planet. Or at least, something that puts this situation into perspective for people that aren't from the US. Listen up.

The prominence of certain social values in public in the US, be they conservative or liberal, life depends a large part in what state you're from; they are not the same in every part of the US. One of the reasons that this happened to this poor guy is that he is from Iowa. Now, Iowa is a very, very, very socially conservative state. A lot of people with openly fundamentalist, evangelical Christian views call Iowa their home. If Christopher Handley was from California, New York, Oregon, Massachusetts or any other socially liberal (usually coastal) state the chances of this happening to him would have been lower to none. Even if he was from a state where politically people are conservative yet generally believe that the best government is little government - New Mexico or Montana, for instance - he probably would be fine. The fact of the matter is that Handley is living in the wrong place at the wrong time. The current presidential administration in this country was in large part built by the Christian Right, and with Bush as president they attained a lot of power in public life (this happened before, too, during the Reagan administration). And they are especially pro-active in places where are lots of people who share their views. Like Iowa (and most of middle, farm-country America). And even if the people who went through Handley's mail aren't religious conservatives, Iowa is still not a place liberal or progressive views about anything from right-to-privacy to same-sex marriage are held by the majority. They will go through your stuff if they think that it is for the better of the "community" (that is, people who think like them).

So that's a large part of how I think this happened at all. And it also one of the main reasons that I think he will be okay in the end. Freedom of Speech is so hotly contested, debated, and defended in this country all the time that in way you could say that this trial is nothing special. It is *very* important for manga and comic readers because is the first that anyone will be prosecuted for actually *owning* obscene material. But not everyone who is going to be helping this dude out are social conservatives from the Mid-west. He's going to have supporters from all over the place with much more progressive views - or should I say, *mainstream views*? Because even if most people do not agree with what someone is saying or enjoying the general attitude most Americans have towards free speech is that it is necessary and fundamental to society and should be preserved at all costs. This is the reason that the Klu Klux Klan is allowed to erect crosses in Fountain Square in my hometown of Cincinnati. Trust me, we *hate* it, hate with a passion. But we know that if we put up a law preventing the Klan from "expressing" themselves (bleh), then that same law could be used to prevent *us* from expressing ourselves in the future. Many people in the US understand that the law does not make neat distinctions, so I think Handley will be cool in the end.

If manga and comic fans in the US get the word out we can drum up a lot of support for this guy. And when Bush leaves office, I know things will change. I don't think that the Christian right is going to be so bold and cocky once their open supporter in the White House leaves ('cause President-Elect Obama sure as hell isn't their friend). But why wait? We should do what we can now! And I would suggest to Mr. Handley, after all of this is done, that he consider moving somewhere else.

Even if he doesn't do a day of prison or the law gets repealed, the legal bill is easily going to run in the thousands of $, so a very real damage has already been done.
I really hope he can sue that dummy postal inspector for anything he's got, because a few mangas - yaoi or otherwise - obviously can't menace the national security so he was acting outside of his remit.

I donated too. Since I am a reader of yaoi manga and have read some shotacon, I am hoping this guy won't go to jail and his case ends up being thrown out. It's not just this Handley guy's rights that have been abused but the rights of every person that loves to read or enjoys looking at art in the privacy of their own homes. It can even affect fans of anime, also.

This guy was not hurting anyone and it's wrong to say that what someone does in private, that doesn't affect/harm other people, is something that the government should be allowed to attack. The one being harmed with the government's case is Handley and the government is not in any way doing this for the protection of anyone. I believe though, that this guy will get off because this case is unconstitutional.

According to the first editorial link listed by lambchopsil, it apparently happened with a comic store manager in Texas who sold Urotsukidoji despite it being clearly labeled adults only, kept in an adults only section and it being bought by an adult. This would be the first instance where a person is charge for just purchasing/owning the damn things.

People wouldn't be making such a fuss if he knew he was potentially breaking the law. As far as he knew, all he was doing was buying manga. Seeing as this is going to trial, he may very well be judged to have not.

Ridiculous. Simply, and utterly ridiculous.

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Thats kinda weird cause i could swear that there was a case saying that drawn graphic images are not the same as real images, i.e. hentai is not porn, and that they cannot be tried or even considered the same thing. But what ever if they would dare to do that to me, I'd just take a magnet to my HD lol.

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