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Post #534924 - Reply to (#534894) by drunkguy
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10:52 am, Apr 25 2010
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i agree with this, and also with what the webmaster is saying, people don't have the right in a free society to force their preferences on others, or control what other people get to read or not - there's plenty of real violence and real crimes being committed but supporting censorship is just a half-assed justification for not actually going out into unfortunate places in the world and doing something about it (if this trend continues on the internet the outcome won't be pretty) we need to not support sites the promote censorship, and there are plenty of useful successful search engines out there besides google/yahoo/etc

Post #534925 - Reply to (#534921) by Ashen-Shugar
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10:54 am, Apr 25 2010
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I was thinking more of Eva in her child form and it is very ecchi. once you let things slide then there hard to stop, once censors view hentai material then there be looking for other things after that. The fact that Negi is like a 10-12 year old and the girls are all older than him as well is also a factor in it.

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10:55 am, Apr 25 2010
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(I'm writing as if this site is based in the US.)

Since you are based in the US, and lolicon and shotacon are declared illegal, it's better that you go along with it if you want to get funding. Remove all image covers for genres, download links, and links to groups that scanlate it (only if necessary). Another good measure would be to automatically censor shotocan, lolicon, and (possibly) hentai from the site for non-users, and say somewhere that those genres are automatically censored if you're not logged-in.

I'm a bit too lazy to read through all the comments, but sorry if someone's said that already.

Post #534927 - Reply to (#534893) by poptart
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It is that last question that I'd like answered most myself. I am for keeping links to sites since one of the purposes of MU is to provide a meeting place for the scanlation community as a whole. Restricting site links would hinder the sites functionality while placing an unnecessary and pointless burden on scanlators and leechers. People would still accuse MU of facilitating illegal searches by listing scanlator groups. Removing site links will add no value. Moving scanlator info would be even worse.

On the other hand, deleting just the DDLs actually has a possible benefit to scanlators since it would encourage people to visit their site, which hopefully balances out any lost traffic due to inconvenience.

Post #534928 - Reply to (#534920) by Aeylis
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10:58 am, Apr 25 2010
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Leave it as it is. Or remove download links only.

You know, this is a joke. I don't really get the whole pedophilia witch hunting. FRANKLY, it's about the same as homosexuality. Granted, in this case it isn't right to ACT on your feelings as your partner wouldn't be quite consenting.

"No significant curative treatment for pedophilia has yet been found. There are, however, certain therapies that can reduce the incidence of pedophilic behaviors that result in child sexual abuse."

Now, before someone will flame me to death. I'm all in for severely punishing people who have ever abused a minor in any way, but these people don't really have a choice to be a pedophile or not. So why is everyone treating them like the worst scum from the get go? Who knows how many out there have a normal family and have lived their whole lives without acting on these urges?

In their case I'd say that lolicon / shotacon manga ( I'd say that both explicit and not ) may actually be some kind of substitute that helps them control their urges? I think that's a hell of a lot better than real life abuse of minors or real child pornography.

I say, to hell with censorship. Sooner or later they'll want to ban all manga and other visual means of entertainment and then we'll have a real books burning again with half of literature being banned. From then it'll be a short road to totalitarian governments from sci-fi movies. They already have surveillance cameras everywhere.

Post #534929 - Reply to (#534926) by Xeronia
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11:00 am, Apr 25 2010
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Forgot to add:

Looking at how the poll is going... a lot of people want to keep it the way it is. But I don't think that that's going to help you. Most of us are less adverse to shotacon and lolicon than most people out there, including advertisers. Site needs to be funded somehow.

Post #534930 - Reply to (#534923) by Setebos
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11:03 am, Apr 25 2010
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Im sorry but you cant judge one and not the other, either judge loli and shota the same or dont judge them at all. you cant say "loli is bad but i dont mind shota". There are also alot of series out there that have loli or shota tags but are not hentai at all and that characters are not seen in a perverted way.

Post #534931 - Reply to (#534870) by derpMonster
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11:07 am, Apr 25 2010
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Not a bad idea. Putting entire genres would clutter things up too much though. A system using green checks and red X marks may work for quick warnings. It is kinda moot though considering registration gives people the ability to color and filter genres through the User CP.

Post #534932 - Reply to (#534926) by Xeronia
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But this isn't an US-site only, Xeronia. O_O

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Post #534933 - Reply to (#534870) by derpMonster
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11:19 am, Apr 25 2010
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A user can already filter these genres from the release list by going to their "User CP" and then selecting "Genre Filtering". You can also do like I have and select a particular highlight color for these releases so that you will know right away what is listed as Lolicon and Shotacon. This way there is a greatly reduced chance you will ever "accidentally" click on these types of storiessmile

Post #534934 - Reply to (#534926) by Xeronia
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11:21 am, Apr 25 2010
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Like the legality of scanlations, the legality of shota and loli is pretty hazy. Even if the links were removed the site would still get attacked by people accusing it of aiding in piracy. Really, in the end, MU is going to have to find less restrictive/paranoid sources of ad revenue or rely more on donations.

Besides that, an auto filter isn't a bad idea. I just worry it would scare away the lurkers who are used to not having to log on to browse through everything. Convenience is one of the biggest strengths of MU after all and I prefer not to log on unless I feel like posting something since I tend to go overboard when I do.

Post #534935 - Reply to (#534890) by drunkguy
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11:22 am, Apr 25 2010
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Just by eliminating the download links I don't think it would. MU isn't about downloading manga in the first place anyway. It's to provide information related to the releases of scanlation groups. People would still continue to use the site as always because it provides accurate information on releases (and series) along with a quick and easy way to get to the site that has provided the release.

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Post #534936 - Reply to (#534873) by dreamer00013
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11:38 am, Apr 25 2010
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I don't see a spin off site as being good for MU. As much as I'd like my old mascot design be used for one, I can only see such a thing detracting from the convenience of MU while creating unnecessary burdens which maintaining two sites would entail. Besides, there are enough sites dedicated to amassing massive quantities of hentai info out there anyway. This is the best site for scanlation info.

Post #534937 - Reply to (#534918) by blakraven66
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12:02 pm, Apr 25 2010
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Right? Well, so long as he feels our seething hate, I could care less what a meager number of hits he gets.

Post #534938 - Reply to (#534893) by poptart
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12:04 pm, Apr 25 2010
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Some of these sites are being removed from the Google search index, so I say expunging links to the sites would likely kill off all ways to find them.

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