Just because it's common doesn't mean that it's right, does it?

If there's a country filled with bastards and you live in it, does it mean you have to be a bastard too to live in it? What a funny point you are making...

If you read the page again then you can read that it's the mangaka's work. It's not the scanlators work, they just "make" it available in another language for others who love their work. It can't be right that someone else than the mangaka earns money on their work....or do you disagree?

The other reason was mangafox = mangahere, so while they act like they are respecting you they are totally disrespecting you behind your back putting it up on the other site.

Why do you think that stopping being you are being totally disrespected by someone you thought respected you is stupid? I don't get it...being respected and respecting others is a bad thing? O.o

You are right. However, in this case, his own personal agenda is against the policies of site he is moderating for. That being said, on the About Us page, I can't find MU's policies on this issue, although the majority of the people should know.

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Ahh, it's no undertone about the crediability. I just find it stupid that mu was taking that time. As the leader herself says it: She forgot until she saw that.

But that was included in the decision to stop scanlating. Mangaupdates is great, no doubt about that but it loses it meaning if all the releases goes to mangafox right after. You can just check mangafox each day for updates instead of mangaupdates since it's the same...except you can read the releases too. People would have no reason to come here anymore if the dude is doing work for both places...

About the overreaction...no I don't think that stopping because someone is totally disrespecting the author or the scanlation team by earning money on something that's supposed to be free is a huge overreaction. When asking people nicely doesn't work then you got no options left. You can't just close your eyes to all evil...it doesn't work that way.

"good riddance" ...do you even know what happened then? No? Thanks for butting with with stupidity, I was feeling weird without having one of your kind in this topic...

Exactly, against it.
MU can't be impartial if it's staff isn't being impartial or am I missing something here?

More about this here...oh and lil Sinsl you should probably read that too...you know to get a little more info on the stuff you are talking about.

You know Shi-Ki isn't the only one being sad about this stuff happening...

Someone repeatedly ignored their "don't upload" policy, after which they went berserk and made several troll releases that were 99% "Watermark". Imho, if they are that "jerk-intolerant" as to provide false scanlations - their releases should be removed and their group should be blacklisted on mangaupdates. Scanlation world will only be better without an extra drama queen.

So you are keeping him, but you are going to publicly humiliate him in front of the thousands of people that visit by posting this drama on the front page of your website. I'm not sure who the bad guy is here.

I agree "remove them"...but you know by doing that you are agreeing to punish the readers. What a crappy policy you got...

Could you please tell me which group you are talking about again? You are forgetting that mangaupdates let users add releases. Showing ignorance again, are we?

Ahem. We did give them warnings, which they totally ignored. We really really need the traffic. Do you know how understaffed we were? At one point, there's only t1, 2 girls and me working in Shi-Ki. Our translator is missing because she had some life crisis, our fastest cleaner was gone because he has a real life to deal with, others disappeared after being admitted to the group.

Traffic means more people want to work with us, hence more releases and more projects. Of course we were pissed when people just ignored our requests! And we were being such nice scanlators RELEASING PROJECT WE ALL HATE.

So we're gone. No more drama queen. Also no more underrated manga from us. And blacklisting us from MU? No thanks, we quit first.

Sinsl, go work for a scanlan group first before making posts without thinking.

The one mentioned in the news article, of course. Namely, I'm talking about http://shi-ki.org/blog/?p=679

t1, I can hardly understand the last paragraph. In your rage, your English has gone to the drain lol.

Supporting t1's opinion, why do you think that scanlators have to go underground these days? Remember the raid of OneManga? We were all scared that we're going to get legal actions from the big publishing companies. Just because asshole online readers decided to make monies out of our slave labor of love over manga. None of the monies that OM made goes to the mangaka/publishers, except their own pockets. And the one receiving backlashes from online readers are us, the scanlators, who most of the time using our own pocket monies, and time (which can be used to do more exciting things like playing eroge <looks at t1> ) to scanlate manga. Why? Because we love doing it. That's why we do it for free.

So, when we're quitting, nobody can say anything against us quitting. Did you guys pay us to scanlate? No? So shut the fuck up and bear with it. It's free stuff, and we're doing it out of our own free time. And bear with it.

I think you're a stupid troll

Sigh...did you know that a version 2 without any watermark was released a few days after? Did you know how many times Shi-Ki tried to talk with the people who uploaded the releases and the leaders of ehentai? Did you know that it's not fun being disrespected when you work on a title you don't really want to do but you want to finish it because there are people who like the title?

Waiting for 3 days isn't that huge a task for anyone who only uploads a groups releases. The task lies in scanlating the whole chapter...there have never been any kind of policy that states that Shi-Ki forbids others to upload their stuff to other hosters or online readers. Shi-Ki only wants to have 3 days where they can get the traffic to come to their page...is that too much to ask when Shi-Ki is the one scanlating the manga?

Try downloading the chapters before those and see how many of the chapters got a notice about waiting 3 days. The uploader can't say that he didn't read those. That's not a good enough reason when the groups put their notes in there so people who uploads their stuff can read them because they don't read what the groups say on their websites.

There is no "Don't upload it" "It's ours" "Fuck you readers" and so on, on any of the releases made by Shi-Ki. There's only frustration when all options are used and childish options like watermarking is used. Think about how desperate someone has to be to get heard when they are forced to watermark their releases. Having this repeated 3 times is more than enough to see that the world isn't getting the message and an absolute legal reason to close the group.

What did you expect scanlators to be? Non-human beings with no feelings whatsoever when they put soo many feelings into the stuff they scanlate. Sorry but scanlators are people like you and me with feelings, they just know how to scanlate.

Been there, done that.
Thank you, but now I'm happy enough doing one man one-shot scanlations on 4chan - a page here, a chapter there...
P.S. And scanlating the manga I hate for free? Only if I really, really hate it, and want to spread the hate. That's the sure-way to kill all your desire to scanlate anything for years to come.

More places to find the manga = more fans for the manga, and new recruits are proportional to that, not to forced visitors to your site...

LOL it's not rage, I'm just tired. It's over 2am over here xD

Why do you think that stopping scanlating because you are being "totally disrespected by someone" you thought "respected you" is stupid?

I don't get it...are you saying that "being respected by others" and "respecting others" is a bad thing? O.o

I hope it's better now. Otherwise if it's still crap I will look at it tomorrow.