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Post #538414 - Reply to (#538378) by StaticHD
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7:43 pm, Oct 1 2011
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i know, i know. just kidding, but those are pretty cool comment though lol

Post #538415 - Reply to (#538413) by ZL11
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8:56 pm, Oct 1 2011
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I think watermarking isn't meant to stop the spreading of the manga. As far as I know, watermarking has been done on scanlations since early scanlators like MangaProject, only it was small and only their website and credit staff listed. It has only gotten more bigger, more obnoxious or more louder since online aggregators came online.. mainly due to the scanlators need to let people know who have done the work and not let anyone else take credit. For example, newbies often think MangaFox and/or MangaHere were the one who done the scanlation.

Post #538416 - Reply to (#538415) by Sachins
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4:07 am, Oct 2 2011
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Hmmm... I can accept those reasons. Unfortunately, I've read a couple of scanlators' sites where they SAY, "We are watermarking to this extent to punish EVERYONE for people sharing. When the sharing stops, the watermarking stops." Obnoxious and fruitless. I don't mind the ones stamped in there to proclaim ownership, but ones use to "punish" are stupid.

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1:39 pm, Oct 2 2011
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i don't support mangafox action but this thing is getting more and more ridiculous, because a few people/site at fault. now everyone get to be punished?

as a scanlator/reader/leecher what ever you want to call me, i don't mind watermark as long its not annoyingly BIG, i also support release delay, but a Fake release? and 26 page of them? (like japanzai did with aiki, no offense prozess) cmon!!

no matter what the reason you scanlate (wanted to share, bigger e-peen, make money,etc), after you release it, it will get shared everywhere, just like MU said, you just can't control the internet.

and there are better way to deal with mangafox, some are probably not legal but it will get better result.

Post #538418 - Reply to (#538417) by Phreaker
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7:06 pm, Oct 2 2011
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I pretty much agree with this. I have no problems with restricting releases to forum members on their site or having IRC releases only. However, when scanlators make it impossible for latecomers to get all the releases for a series or even slip random hentai pages into those fake releases to "punish" people who have the audacity to read the release on mangafox (yes, there is a group who has done this before) I just look for a new group instead. :/

Post #538419
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2:16 am, Oct 9 2011
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Rather than having the aggregators profit from the stuff they copy without having done any real work, why not try to j-Comi.jp host out of print manga scanlated manga titles? It is a site created by Ken Akamatsu in partnership with Shuiesha and Kodansha to provide an alternative to piracy that supports the original authors and artists of out of print works. Rather than view or download from aggregators, fans can visit J-Comi.JP instead and view or download there. The money obtained from advertisers and from the optional hentai access fee of $1.40 per month for hentai manga and hentai doujins goes to the author/artists after the cost of running the site by the PR firm is taken out. Ken Akamatsu is not compensated by it. This is an innovative non-profit service to bring money back to the authors and artists for out of print works and addresses the problem of piracy as well as the problem of aggregators profiting without ever having done anything in the content creation process.

animenewsnetwork.com 2011-09-16/akamatsu-j-comi-tests-pay-service-with-adult-m anga-dojinshi

animenewsnetwork.com 2011-10-03/akamatsu-j-comi-site-posts-adult-manga-restric ted-by-tokyo-law

Currently, the site hosts japanese versions, but Ken Akamatsu is working on making the english version of the site available with english versions of out of print works.

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