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Post #539558 - Reply to (#539557) by thevampirate
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8:02 pm, Feb 16 2012
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The fact that you honestly believe this is quite outstanding.

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Post #539559 - Reply to (#539556) by KuroYatsu
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8:04 pm, Feb 16 2012
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Holy shit, man.

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Post #539560 - Reply to (#539556) by KuroYatsu
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8:16 pm, Feb 16 2012
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This is the internet. People are going to find something to bitch about, form an incoherent, illiterate opinion, and then rant until they get bored.

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Post #539561 - Reply to (#539560) by Panda
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8:24 pm, Feb 16 2012
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BRAVO!!!! :: STANDING OVATION!! ::

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8:25 pm, Feb 16 2012
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So... what if they are making money? do you think some of them don't have severs to pay? books to buy? Do you think they are becoming millionaire, living in mansions like the MegaUpload owner? probably not. And if they are making money, they aren't even charging us for that like Tazmo.
I don't even know why some of you are so mad of them doing money, like you don't read scanlation and buy every single manga that you read. It's kinda hypocrite of you, if you don't like them making money for giving you free manga, then just don't read manga online, don't download manga or go to their websites.

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8:38 pm, Feb 16 2012
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Red Hawk does not make profit, does not pay staff, and in fact sometimes has to pay out of its own pocket to afford the server costs associated with hosting its own online reader with no compression. PROzess, I know exactly who has been feeding you these ideas and why so I won't hold your ignorance against you. Regardless, next time you might want to consider coming to us if you have beef rather than try to engage in a misguided internet smear campaign.

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Post #539564 - Reply to (#539563) by Ichibukai
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8:42 pm, Feb 16 2012
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Your actions speak for you guys.
No use hiding stuff.

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Post #539565 - Reply to (#539564) by PROzess
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8:47 pm, Feb 16 2012
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If you're actually interested in the truth, come find me on IRC. If you would prefer to continue to make snide and uninformed accusations from the sidelines, by all means proceed. Haters are nothing new for us or the internet.

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Post #539566 - Reply to (#539565) by Ichibukai
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8:53 pm, Feb 16 2012
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answer this then... why is RHS an affliate on MangaFox's main site? with Dragon & Fly? MF put you guys there for FREE? If you get 'bribes' or 'donations' or whatever kind of deal from MF, just leave it at that, you don't have to sugarcoat it. It looks bad.

hmmm, I guess that explains why a few months ago RHS try to "GIVE" cage of eden of the crappiest group (if you can call it that) Dragon & Fly. You guys should've "gave" it to EGS or IMS

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Post #539567 - Reply to (#539566) by DatCat
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8:55 pm, Feb 16 2012
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Exactly what DatCat said.
And also the recent case about ignoring the wishes of the publisher. The actual reason for this topic.
Not only don't you respect their wish for you to stop, no you're also stabbing them from behind, when you're saying you won't provide links anymore, but still work on it quite obvious.
That wasn't want they wanted when they contacted you.

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Post #539568 - Reply to (#539565) by Ichibukai
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If course you don't mind haters. You wouldn't have started taking money otherwise.

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Post #539569 - Reply to (#539563) by Ichibukai
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9:00 pm, Feb 16 2012
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also about "Red Hawk does not make profit, does not pay staff, and in fact sometimes has to pay out of its own pocket to afford the server costs associated with hosting its own online reader with no compression" I think most of it is true for most groups. but I tend to believe, that, in some big groups (we all know who they are)... there is definitely one person or two who are making the money and pocketing it for themselves. it's a dirty little secret that no leaders wants to admit. most of the money goes to the leader but rest of the staff ... yeah... they don't usually get paid.

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Post #539570 - Reply to (#539566) by DatCat
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9:05 pm, Feb 16 2012
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We are affiliates with Batoto and Mangareader as well. We communicate with aggregate sites and, considering their penchant to wage cyber warfare, have no desire to pick fights with them. Cage of Eden was going to be dropped regardless because we didn't have a single staff member left from the team. But you should already know all this and more if you had asked Tran Linh.

The bottom line is we love our series and we're not going to stop working on them unless an equivalent legal service is made available. We will not stop for you, or the aggregate sites, or the publishers. It's certainly not about money. Even if we are driven off of our homepage and into complete anonymity, we will continue to produce high quality releases as long as the fans want to read them.

And that's all I have to say here. If you'd like to continue our discussion, PROzess, you know where to find me.

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Post #539571 - Reply to (#539557) by thevampirate
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9:09 pm, Feb 16 2012
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/facepalm/ You're totally clueless to the meaning of copyright. If you get the books of harry potter and rewrite it but you change the name of the protagonist to Harriet Pottings, and the gender... it does not mean the new books don't still have copyright from the original author... Inform yourself before spouting retardedness.

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Post #539572 - Reply to (#539570) by Ichibukai
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9:11 pm, Feb 16 2012
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It is funny you mention Tran, he's also one of the biggest offender, you big groups all stick together. he probably also making $1000s by taking up all the popular projects. And I also believe his stuff isn't getting a cent. Well, like most groups. Big groups who make money and tries to hide it just sickens me. Their epic fail in trying to go to war with EGS just proves it.

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