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DMCA Notice of Copyright Infringement - Beelzebub & Bakuman

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Weaper12
Post #539618 - Reply to (#539617) by cmertb
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11:53 pm, Feb 16 2012
Posts: 20


my bad, I'm not used to these arborescence

Stoner
Post #539619
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12:02 am, Feb 17 2012
Posts: 18


Everything was easier when irc was the primary source for getting manga. And I don't care what anyone says. If you can only survive by asking donations, don't even get into scanlations in the first place. Accepting donations is different than having a monthly goal.

Anyway, everything has gone to shit. I am disappoint. I wish I could go back 4 years ago...

DatCat
Post #539620 - Reply to (#539619) by Stoner
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12:30 am, Feb 17 2012
Posts: 16


You are right, I just looked at EGS' site what's the deal with this monthly GOAL? did they suddenly turn into PBS? it really isn't that much to run a website. I got one and it's so cheap. And I'm doing one of the TOP titles. Now what other expenses do they have? their raws are 90% free webtoon... I don't understand.

Well, but I digress, RHS has probably crossed the line this time. I guess, It does pay to have a Chinese person in the leadership. (Yes he's Indonesian... but he 'types' perfect Chinese). Remember kids, to get into scanlation, have a Chinese person in your group and you'll get Early Raws to crush your opponent. YES, I'm bitter about that.

alelil
Post #539621
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1:01 am, Feb 17 2012
Posts: 4


hypocrite shouts hypocrite
it's RHS rights to do as the please as some people put some =="watermarks"== on their works, and wage crusade war to the fox, it's okay it's also your rights,
but please stop playing good guy, IF it's true RHS get share from MF, you just can't stand it because u dont get too right. IF MF can give some money to all scanlation that protest, i'm sure they will calm down. So stop using crusade war facade, but instead use hey MF i want money too, just give my damn share like some other scan who already get their share

well things would be simpler if people not beat around the bush, mwahahaha

Weaper12
Post #539622 - Reply to (#539621) by alelil
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1:04 am, Feb 17 2012
Posts: 20


Mangafox (Noez) proposed money to every randomly big team. Japanzai was offered a monthly $300 that was refused. Almost everytime refused such shameless bribe, almost...
weird how only RHS is in Mangafox's affiliates along Dragin Fly Scans...

Weaper12
Post #539623 - Reply to (#539622) by Weaper12
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1:04 am, Feb 17 2012
Posts: 20


Almost everyone*

DatCat
Post #539624 - Reply to (#539621) by alelil
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1:26 am, Feb 17 2012
Posts: 16


Actually, MF does offer money to big groups often, I've known at least 3 teams that turned them down.
Manga-Heaven being one. If your group is too small, they don't give a flying f and just rip your work.

So Thank you very much China.

RiK.dfs
Post #539625 - Reply to (#539551) by dosetsu
Member

1:32 am, Feb 17 2012
Posts: 61


Do you get in legal trouble for drawing on a book you own?

Pakuen
Post #539626
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2:06 am, Feb 17 2012
Posts: 4


I'm glad that pretty much everything I'm into is way dated and not popular (among english readers at any rate).

Some of them should have expired copyrights (by reason) but probably won't for quite some time more

-Pakuen

ncrdrg
Post #539627 - Reply to (#539624) by DatCat
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2:22 am, Feb 17 2012
Posts: 34


I'd like to expand on how ridiculous it is for Japanzai to criticize RHS on that topic.
I know first-hand what kind of profits they get under Google AdSense since I'm a leader of Random Scanlations and was competing against them for SKR and also used Google Adsense.

I know exactly what kind of revenue a popular manga brings. During the whole saga, Adsense was bringing revenues up to 450$ (but we were banned for some reason so we didn't see a penny of that). And Japanzai scanlates several other popular series.

The reality is that any group that is somewhat large will end up making money if they use Adsense or donations. And not just "break even" like what most small groups aspire to. They can use that to buy raws, keep it for themselves, or a combination of both (personally, I let our paypal account open to my admins because I have nothing to hide.)

Like EGS and the that lofty monthly donation goal. I know a lot of it goes towards hosting since I used to be co-leader there but it shows poor judgment because hosting should never cost that much. My group pays roughly 60$ a year, unlimited bandwidth. A tad slow and probably not suitable for large groups but the 60-80 euros per month I saw while I was there? Way too high. Then again, when you have such a large fanbase willing to send money, why would you care?

So hey, personally, scanlation teams earning money for the work they do? I don't really mind. But I think it's hypocritical for a group making money to criticize another group making money.

Uthred
Post #539628
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2:37 am, Feb 17 2012
Posts: 5


Wow, what a lot of hypocritical self entitled assholes. You evidently read scanlations so any "moral" objection is wildly hypocritical at best and is realistically moot. You want strangers to translate this material for you so you have something to read but you also want to dictate the manner in which they cover their costs/justify the time spent on it? Because making money, quite often money that the publisher couldnt possibly make, is wrong but consuming the output thats fine? Are you against theft but buy stolen goods? To be honest I imagine the distinction here, unsubtle as it is, is quite probably lost on so many of you. I suppose I shouldnt be surprised at this unthinking level of entitlement, it is the internet after all. But still, cop the fuck on.

drunkguy
Post #539629 - Reply to (#539626) by Pakuen
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2:39 am, Feb 17 2012
Posts: 731


I'm glad most of the stuff I'm into is too perverted to be sold in the US. It may not be the last niche that any company would consider licensing but borderline-H manga is definitely close to it.

That said, I'm slightly surprised about Beelzebub. Guess we can look forward to censored penises now.

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DatCat
Post #539630 - Reply to (#539627) by ncrdrg
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3:07 am, Feb 17 2012
Posts: 16


No offense nic, but don't group me with those big groups. You probably meant to reply to that Weaper guy

And you got your butt kicked on SKR, just like I got my butt handed to me this week by that group who's got Chinese connection. But hey, get over it. I will too.

I agree with you on the EGS thing (but hey, you should be happy for them, they kick Japanzai's ass for you. so you should be thankful instead of taking a little stab there... you know how Claudia is.)

DatCat
Post #539631 - Reply to (#539627) by ncrdrg
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3:08 am, Feb 17 2012
Posts: 16


No offense nic, but don't group me with those big groups. You probably meant to reply to that Weaper guy

And you got your butt kicked on SKR, just like I got my butt handed to me this week by that group who's got Chinese connection. But hey, get over it. I will too.

I agree with you on the EGS thing (but hey, you should be happy for them, they kick Japanzai's ass for you. so you should be thankful instead of taking a little stab there... you know how Claudia is.)

Milleniummaster18
Post #539632 - Reply to (#539598) by PROzess
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3:13 am, Feb 17 2012
Posts: 64


Make sense, kid, that analogy is so outdated and inaccurate. No use arguing the same shit over and over again.

If "robbing" (really isn't) is what has to be done to stick it up to the man, then so be it.

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