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Kaitentsuki
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Fantastic!
Another probably gay ass eye technique, Kishimoto really has to stop with the eyes whats with him and all these eye techniques. Its going way to far with all these eye thingie o_O.
Meh i feel compelled to start something from another topic that was quite a while ago....a screw it
Bullshit no jutsu!
in a less lower scale though bigrazz

xtr3m3dude
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...Just ridiculous.
Tsukuyomi - eye contact and game over
Amaterasu - flames that can't be put out
Susanoo - chakra giant variations, the best shield
Izanagi - makes illusions reality, can do anything for a minute
Izanami - instant win without eye contact?

I am willing to bet that eventually Sasuke will manage to turn his eyes to rinnegan too.
From the looks of it Madara seems to be able to use both sharingan and rinnegan tech,
while his eyes look like rinnegan... he was using the meteors (gravity powers) while using
Susanoo. Makes me wonder why the fake Madara needed to implant two different stages
of the same eye... I have a feeling he isn't an Uchiha. Like how Kakashi can't turn his eye
off, and we found out Nagato's eyes were not his own (maybe that's why they were always
on and he looked so drained all the time?).

So yeah, as if the sharingan tech wasn't already full of bullshit... It seems likely that soon
Sasuke will be able to use the 6 paths of Pain with his main body (like Nagato did in Edo
Tensei and like Madara seems to be doing it).

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one more dumb chapter, then I'm dropping Naruto for a good long while. This is just so stupid now, first we get a wasted half of a chapter telling us things we know already or don't care about, then we get another eye technique pulled out of their @ss. I mean seriously?

Plus trying to justify Sasuke's decision to attack the Leaf with that flashback actually backfired, I mean he's just a snotty brat who just wants revenge against people who actually had no part in the destruction of the Uchiha or branding Itachi as a traitor. I mean its just a bit stupid and now itachi is going to use this technique and Sasuke as usual, will "learn" it instantly and get another lame power up.

If the Sharingan was really that powerful and you had an entire village of them, then no way in hell they weren't ruling the world by the time Itachi was ordered to kill them. I mean 2 sharingan users are as strong as an army, what would 50 be like, even if they didn't have the same skill as Itachi and Sasuke.

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one more dumb chapter, then I'm dropping Naruto for a good long while. This is just so stupid now, first we get a wasted half of a chapter telling us things we know already or don't care about, then we get another eye technique pulled out of their @ss. I mean seriously?

Plus trying to justify Sasu ...

I see several words of wisdom there young one embarrassed
But yea kishi should had toned down the eye thingies way back and stop at mangekyo, now hes just going overboard.

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He probably did that to try and balance out Naruto and Sasuke. Cause right now Naruto is leagues stronger than Sasuke. I guess he's still aiming for them to fight each power up he does makes it one sided.

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He probably did that to try and balance out Naruto and Sasuke. Cause right now Naruto is leagues stronger than Sasuke. I guess he's still aiming for them to fight each power up he does makes it one sided.

But does every single powerup on Sasukes side HAVE to be eye thingies?

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I'm pretty sure they put all kinds of crap into Madara to make him stronger for the war. Hence the first Hokage's head on him, the Rinnegan, etc. He didn't already have Rinnegan.

That said, I never really did like the Uchiha's and the overpoweredness. *sigh* It's the same pattern as before though, Sasuke gets everything handed to him or "suddenly" realizes another after another after another ability due to his genes.

Naruto, while still not too tough, does have to deal with all these dangerous near death things to get to where he is majority of the time. *though we all know that's not the case 100% of the time*

I feel like Kishi is raising the bar too high right now in terms of power, but can he help himself? I think he said the manga would be ending soon anyway. But I feel like he doesn't need to do all this, he doesn't need to raise the level of power, it was fine where it was a while ago and it should've stayed that way. none

What I can predict is in the final battle, none of this stuff will even matter because they'll probably exhaust everything near the beginning, and maybe they can finally be left to fight with just their fists.

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Quote from Kaitentsuki
But does every single powerup on Sasukes side HAVE to be eye thingies?


Er. yes. Thats the whole point of possessing an eye technique/blood limit.
I'm actually really surprised at all these criticisms. Why do people even expect kishi to be pragmatic. This is a shonen manga. Stop beating your head over how its so ridiculous.
I personally have been enjoying these last few chapters. After all, it requires patience to read and enjoy this kind of a stretched up story line.


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I'm pretty sure they put all kinds of crap into Madara to make him stronger for the war. Hence the first Hokage's head on him, the Rinnegan, etc. He didn't already have Rinnegan.

That said, I never really did like the Uchiha's and the overpoweredness. *sigh* It's the same pattern as before though, ...

Agree with you 100% regarding the fact that hes raising the bars way to high, totally unnecessary and i think hes just doing to powerups for more sales on the manga, cool shiz = sells, but dont push it really bigrazz , quantity before quality.

And @ElanorR Its just that hes introducing way to many secret skills/technique out of nowhere, when we were introduced to the sharingan fad it was all about copying and seeing chakra, now its all about some hidden techniques in the eye itself as the other werent already enough, 2 secret techniques were introduced with Itachi, that was ok then some susano went out of nowhere, coming closely was some eternal eye with no side effect. Hes really just pushing it with the other stuff hes adding.

In a gaming term a sharingan would be a cheat key to unlimited power *imagine the sith guy from star wars saying it*!

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I don't think he's doing it for sales exactly. He probably has a reason for putting it so high as the author, but as a reader it's not very nice to see.

We'll have to wait and see what he plans to do with all these power ups... but I can't imagine much. I hope this is the last level of power up... bigrazz

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Quote from kirabook
I'm pretty sure they put all kinds of crap into Madara to make him stronger for the war. Hence the first Hokage's head on him, the Rinnegan, etc. He didn't already have Rinnegan.

Madara actually said that he awakened the Rinnegan shortly before he died.
Apparently the Rinnegan is the Sharingan's evolved form. I think Kabuto added the First Hokage cells to Madara's body though... (but I think Madara already had similar plans for his reincarnation).
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I'm actually really surprised at all these criticisms. Why do people even expect kishi to be pragmatic. This is a shonen manga. Stop beating your head over how its so ridiculous.

I think many of us have just outgrown the shonen story type (aka plot holes galore). The readers who started reading Naruto in 8-10 years ago are not teens anymore.

Many readers just hate plot holes though, while enjoying the manga for what it is. I've been enjoying it a whole lot ever since Nagato attacked Konoha. Since then Naruto has been steadily improving as a protagonist. But plot holes always suck, and the Sharingan is infamous for them. Remember how a shinobi had to kill his best friend in order to get the Mangekyo Sharingan? And yet Sasuke got it, and so did Kakashi without as much as an explanation...

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I don't think he's doing it for sales exactly. He probably has a reason for putting it so high as the author, but as a reader it's not very nice to see.

We'll have to wait and see what he plans to do with all these power ups... but I can't imagine much. I hope this is the last level of power up... ...

One can only hope my dear fellow reader embarrassed
And @xtr3m3dude i really liked Naruto before timeskip even now, it may have been simplistic and not really have uber flashy fights where everyone has uber powers, but it had a compelling and a bit emotional story where the side characters were actually used, i really liked some of them and i still like Naruto from then, now the side characters are just for decoration really, i dont feel anything for them, point is you dont need a big ass flashy power to make a good and enticing story where you get immersed in knowing next, atm im reading for the sake of ending the chapter called Naruto in my life. Had a big ass part in immersing me into the world of manga and i aint lettin it go so close to the end. But i agree that people may have outgrown Naruto and that plot holes kinda ruin things.

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Jun Tenkawa
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Er. yes. Thats the whole point of possessing an eye technique/blood limit.
I'm actually really surprised at all these criticisms. Why do people even expect kishi to be pragmatic. This is a shonen manga. Stop beating your head over how its so ridiculous.
I personally have been enjoying these last ...


I agree. You guys are racking your brain way too much over a shounen series.

Expect the impossible and don't be surprised by it. There will always be people who like it despite the massive amount of plot holes. Look how long Bleach is surviving when the entire plot itself is a one big giant plot hole.

Anyway, woot, another eye hax jutsu. Sigh...

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First Naruto, now Kabuto is offering to be Sasuke's brother. Such a coveted position.

I'm going to be an asshole and say I called Izanami as soon as Izanagi was announced. If you know your Japanese mythology, Izanami was the wife of Izanagi, and after she died, Izanagi fathered Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Susanoo. (All three of them were born from his body--similar to Athena and Zeus.) It's lame that the sharingan has gotten another powerup, but given the mythology Kishimoto was following, it's not unexpected.

Hopefully this will be the end of it. (Technically, Izanagi should have been the end of it since Izanami didn't give birth to those children.) Otherwise, we're in for a looong line of sharingan powerups since together Izanagi and Izanami gave birth to a bunch of deities and the Japanese islands. bigrazz

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@Brid, don't think I ever mentioned it but I like your avatar. It's Mina Hakuba from Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow right? Anyway I liked how Sasuke's expressions were in this chapter. The thing about younger siblings is that no matter how old they get they always seem like their baby/child selves to an older sibling. The expressions were great.

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