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sarah-eats-cupcakes
Post #547187 - Reply to (#547183) by ElanorR
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Please do not apply your skewed data to brand 'majority of girls' as sex-minded.

it's true though, girls do think a lot about sex...everyone does
the way he worded it was just terrible, females think about sex just as much as males do but in less obvious ways...is what he was trying to say..i think

anyway, WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS THREAD'S TOPIC confused
so, back on topic:
some ecchi manga dont even contain romance, this goes to show that ecchi is not synonymous with sex scenes
most manga which contain both ecchi and sexual content will be tagged as "mature"
on the other hand, smut is always synonymous with sexual content

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Post #547189 - Reply to (#547187) by sarah-eats-cupcakes
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Quote from sarah-eats-cupcakes
it's true though, girls do think a lot about sex...everyone does
the way he worded it was just terrible, females think about sex just as much as males do but in less obvious ways...is what he was trying to say..i think


What he's saying is that majority of girls are so horny, that they tend to have many sexual relations at a time and not just with males, but with females too because they let their desires overcome their sanity.

All humans are sexual beings so they will think about sex. But mainly, he's off his rockers to be postulating such stupid theories.

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Post #547191 - Reply to (#547189) by ElanorR
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Quote from ElanorR
What he's saying is that majority of girls are so horny, that they tend to have many sexual relations at a time and not just with males, but with females too because they let their desires overcome their sanity.

All humans are sexual beings so they will think about sex. But mainly, he's off his ...

yeah, but then again, the original post he was replying to was even worse(Ibleda's post) she was basically saying that men think with their dicks lol
anyway, his post was ridiculous too, i just read the whole thing...at the beginning i only read his "conclusion"

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Quote from ElanorR
This is such utter bullshit. Where did you get all this info from? Probably from all the pornos you frequently check out. Its a known fact that girls derive both a physical and emotional pleasure from a relationship.


Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not interested in porn stuff.

Why do I have to watch or read porn when I already have a girlfriend?!
I mean, yeah, people still enjoy porn, but not me.

My source of info is my own personal experience and my girlfriends.
So, that's not an "utter bullshit" but a "true fact".

Both girls and guys derive both aspects of pleasure from a relationship. That's quite obvious.
I'm talking about those girls who are "too sex minded". They do try to derive emotional pleasure from a relationship or two, but the other sexual relationships they establish are only for the sake of deriving sexual pleasure.

Quote from sarah-eats-cupcakes
females think about sex just as much as males do but in less obvious ways...is what he was trying to say..i think


Yeah, that's what I was talking about.
The way I stated it is nothing like 'terrible', you need to follow and comprehend the whole post before coming to such conclusion. I tried to hit right on the mark.

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What he's saying is that majority of girls are so horny, that they tend to have many sexual relations at a time and not just with males, but with females too because they let their desires overcome their sanity.


Did I ever say that? Are you sure about that? Don't you feel the need to calm down and read my post again?

I simply mentioned that majority of girls are 'sex minded'.
I never said that majority of girls are 'bisexual' and/or 'sluts'.

Again, you need to follow and comprehend the whole post before coming to such conclusion.

Quote from ElanorR
All humans are sexual beings so they will think about sex. But mainly, he's off his rockers to be postulating such stupid theories.


And as I mentioned before, you girls (my girlfriends) and my female friends circle are the source of most of my theories, so you are the one who's being stupid by denying something your own gender accepts. This is the 21st century. Wake up from your dream already!

@ sarah-eats-cupcakes:

If you find true facts ridiculous, I can't help you with it.
To come out of the room of ignorance and see the light of truth or to shut your eyes and remain in the dark room of ignorance is up to you, after all.

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yes but you were implying that straight girls would go as far as sleep with girls because they're "sex-minded"
if that wasnt your point then the way you worded it was very unclear

yes, girls read/watch porn and think of sex but thats not what you were talking about...or atleast, your post didnt show that


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Quote from sarah-eats-cupcakes
yes but you were implying that straight girls would go as far as sleep with girls because they're "sex-minded"
if that wasnt your point then the way you worded it was very unclear


Again, read my post properly.

It's not that my wording was unclear, it's you who are not trying to read and understand my post properly.

I never mentioned anything that implies "straight girls would go as far as sleep with girls because they're "sex-minded"".

My implication was that straight (the basic or expected orientation) girls "could" go as far as sleep with other girls.

And that's very true. Take the case of "Bisexual girls" as an example.

So, my implication was 100% correct, and the wording was very clear.

There's a reason I mentioned that "level variation" at the end of my post.

According to it, a (straight) girl who is "a little bit sex minded"(The Minimum level) won't normally try to hook up with a girl. On the other hand, a girl who is "a complete slut"(The Maximum level) would hook up with anyone she pleases. The other levels in between determine the possibility of a girl to sleep with the same gender.

The more sex minded a girl is, the more the possibility increases.

Just because majority of girls are sex minded doesn't mean majority of girls would be willing to sleep with a girl. It all depends on the level of sex mindedness.

And still, I'm saying the "possibility" increases, I'm not saying that they "do" sleep with other girls after reaching a certain level.

A "disgustingly perverted" man "could" be more of a "rapist" than a man who's "a little bit perverted". It depends on the "level of pervertedness".

Just because a certain percentage of guys are of rapist nature doesn't mean majority of guys are the same. Simple as that.

How could you not understand such a simple and obvious thing?!

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Why am i bothering to reply to this? *sighs*

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Why do I have to watch or read porn when I already have a girlfriend?!
I mean, yeah, people still enjoy porn, but not me.


People don't usually stop reading/watching porn once they get girlfriends.

Anyway, let me quote what you said.
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Girls have a greater "Sexual drive" than males when they get horny, for your information.
That's the reason many of them turn into so-called "sluts" to fulfill their sexual desire.


You are implying that ALL women have a greater sexual drive than men, i.e they are hornier. Thanks FYI. Being a woman, I had absolutely no idea that women had greater libido than men.
But you should google it cause you're way off the mark. You'll find that lower libido is common in women but uncommon in men.

2nd- You are saying that many of these girls turn into 'sluts'. This part is a bit vague. I have compared 'many' to majority, which may be a bit flawed but ultimately comes down to the same point. You are saying that girls have a tendency to cheat on guys 'cause of higher libido.

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Many of them were never interested in their gender, but the moment some other girl/woman got a chance to "eat them", they stopped thinking about anything else other than than the pleasure they experienced in the process.
So yeah, it is a choice they made for their pleasure and satisfaction by starting to visit them again and again behind the back of their boyfriends and husbands.


Yea, here you're saying that 'many' women get so completely overwhelmed by the urge to satisfy their desires that they turn bi/cheat.

So don't blame others for not reading your post right, when you should learn to word your thoughts better.

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And as I mentioned before, you girls (my girlfriends) and my female friends circle are the source of most of my theories, so you are the one who's being stupid by denying something your own gender accepts. This is the 21st century. Wake up from your dream already!


Hmm, so your theory is based on a handful of women in your life. Lets see, that makes about 15 out of 3,500,000,000 in this world. Honestly, that sample size is too small to state anything conclusive.
So why don't you read your posts again, come to the realization that what you stated was frivolous, and then you can save yourself further embarrassment.
Its a simple, obvious thing smile

You don't even need to step out of your room to see how fallible your argument is. Just google it.



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Post #547232 - Reply to (#547223) by HitsujinoHon
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According to it, a (straight) girl who is "a little bit sex minded"(The Minimum level) won't normally try to hook up with a girl. On the other hand, a girl who is "a complete slut"(The Maximum level) would hook up with anyone she pleases. The other levels in between determine the possibility of a girl to sleep with the same gender.
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.......so, basically you're saying that only a complete slut would hook up with a girl whereas a girl who doesnt isnt very "sex minded"? none

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Quote from ElanorR
Why am i bothering to reply to this? *sighs*


Right back at you!

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You are implying that ALL women have a greater sexual drive than men, i.e they are hornier.


Did I mention "figures"? Did I ever say 100% women have a greater sexual drive than men?

When women (and studies) say men are less sensitive or not as emotional as them, does that mean "all" the men? Do you seriously believe that?

Let me tell you something. Many men could be "way more" sensitive and emotional than many women.
And many women could be "way more" insensitive and unemotional than men.

When we state a fact, we talk about the "majority". We never talk about each and every person until we're specifically using 'figures'.

Well, I do agree that men could prove to be more capable of having a better sexual drive because of their physical characteristics. But basically, I was talking about "too sex minded" women who're capable to beat men because of their too much sexual desire (that results in a change in their sexual drive).
I do agree that this is the only point I didn't mention clearly.

Quote from ElanorR
You are saying that many of these girls turn into 'sluts'. This part is a bit vague. I have compared 'many' to majority, which may be a bit flawed but ultimately comes down to the same point. You are saying that girls have a tendency to cheat on guys 'cause of higher libido.


Yes, I said 'many' girls. I never said "majority" of girls.
There's nothing vague about it, and is quite understandable if you are actually willing to understand it.
And that doesn't come down to the same point.

When I'm talking about the "whole world", 'many' is the lowest form of adjective I could use here.

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Yea, here you're saying that 'many' women get so completely overwhelmed by the urge to satisfy their desires that they turn bi/cheat.


Yes, that's correct. That's what I'm saying and I don't find anything wrong with it.
'Many' women (not "Majority") get so completely overwhelmed by the urge to satisfy their desires that they turn bi/cheat.

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Hmm, so your theory is based on a handful of women in your life. Lets see, that makes about 15 out of 3,500,000,000 in this world.


Wow, who told you that my facts/theory is based on only 15 women?
Who told you that the total number of my girlfriends and female friends = "15" or so?

How can you talk on behalf of "3,500,000,000" females?
Who gave you the right to decide how those 3,500,000,000 females should live their lives?
Do you have some super-extraordinary power to know how those 3,500,000,000 females feel or live their lives?
You don't know a thing about them. You only know about yourself, your friends, your family, etc.

Wow, what a display of "hypocrisy"......

Do I even need to say anything more?! At least I don't think so.

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.......so, basically you're saying that only a complete slut would hook up with a girl whereas a girl who doesnt isnt very "sex minded"?


No, Sarah, I never mentioned anything like that.

See, I clearly mentioned in my post that the "possibility" increases with 'sex mindedness'.
I never said a "too sex mended" girl can't live without acting like a "slut".

Don't worry, dear, you don't have to feel down.
I won't doubt the level of your 'sex mindedness' on the basis of your actions.

It's always a great thing if even a really sex minded girl/woman could remain faithful to her boyfriend/husband.
That's a good proof that to you, your partner is one of the most precious thing of your life, and you don't want to lose him just because of your extreme sexual desires.
That means you put your relationship on top of everything else... that means your relationship is your number one priority, which is an excellent way of thinking, and one of the most important thing for a successful relationship.

"Sluts" are those who care most about their sexual urges.
Even if they want to, they still can't stop because deep down in their heart their number one priority is to fulfill their sexual desires.

Any 'faithful' girl would know how to handle these urges, because she prioritizes her relationship the most.

If you're one of those really sex minded girls but still don't act like a 'slut', I'd truly appreciate you for thinking in a 'pure' way, and wish you the best in your life (well, I can't hug you, can I? My laptop won't allow me to do so. 'She' simply loves me too much wink ).

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Quote from HitsujinoHon
"Sluts" are those who care most about their sexual urges.
Even if they want to, they still can't stop because deep down in their heart their number one priority is to fulfill their sexual desires.

Any 'faithful' girl would now how to handle these urges, because they prioritize their relationship the most.

If you're one of those really sex minded girls but still don't act like a 'slut', I'd truly appreciate you for thinking in a 'pure' way, and wish you the best in your life (well, I can't hug you, can I? My laptop won't allow me to do so. 'She' simply loves me too much ).

haha this has gone way off topic...but anyway, everything you said is true...wish you all the best in your life too xD

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Dude, this is why I have learned to keep what I say short and indirected most of the time . . . The touchy, ignorant, busybody masses are everywhere . . .

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I read and watch a lot of shows that involve ecchi and still find it enjoyable to a point. As long as they don't go ridiculous or make up episodes to extend the amount of ecchi. Like Maken-Ki and Freezing don't even have close to amount of ecchi in the manga compared to the anime.

I stopped watching both cause it was a waste and got through 2 arcs maybe. Well I know Freezing did, Maken-Ki was a canon bs ending.

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I don't include ecchi as important factor to specify good manga, but its presence sometimes really affect that manga itself.

I would choose "It depends on the series" option if it's exist, sometimes I do need some eye-candy ( better if it's funny ) but that's it. Not for...sexual desire (?) smile wink grin

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There is no good answer for this one. It depends on what kind of ecchi we are talking about, in what series, whether it is fanservice or not, etc..

If it's shounen comedy, then I don't think ecchi makes it funny at all, but too much of it can make a series bad (e.g. negima). I don't really care about that anyway.

If it's a serious one, well, it's a different story. I like that kind of ecchi because it's not about fanservice, it makes the series more realistic (e.g. elfen lied). /of course there is a limit to it/

As for the poll, the 1st answer is a definite NO, the 2nd one would be yes (just enough) but it's NO because it doesn't make it funny at all (why would ecchi make something funny?? o.O), so it's the 3rd one I vote for but it's not true.. (if there is ecchi in a series that doen't mean it can't be a good one)

Need a 4th option!

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Ecchi as in fanservice?

I read manga because it is alien compared to US comics and cartoons. A part of that alien nature is the different view on nudity and sexuality. Not every series needs fanservice but they should not shy away from adult content nor should they omit fanservice to pander to foreign markets. This is especially true if that market is overly influenced by hypocrites who think buckets of blood and intestines being ripped out of people is okay but depicting nudity is somehow a crime against humanity.

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