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What sexist trope in manga bothers you the most?
Patronizing "but you're a girl!" statement
Objectification
Falling in love with their rapist
"All women are..."
Sexual assault/rape portrayed as a joke
Harassment is okay because she's "playing hard to get"
Damsel in distress
Girl solely exists to be a love interest
Jealous, vain, and/or cruel fangirls
Madonna/whore dichotomy
What? Sexism still exists?
 
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neonkitty
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5:20 am, Jun 5 2012
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Had a difficult time choosing between the big chested character and the shy/innnocent/sweet character. But alas the big chested character got my vote. They always get so much attention for their rack that every male falls into. And I really hate the panels an panels of their chest.

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Post #554745 - Reply to (#554519) by Madzai
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4:28 pm, Jun 5 2012
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I also find the poll somewhat strange as by using the word "stereotype" I thought of something like "North American peoples are all nice" or "All Asians are smart". Well, since this is a manga poll, I guess the way the options are worded are simplified version of some characters.

Raine-san
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I think there are two ways of saying "character"
One is the "type of character", which you can place into categories, and the other is the "character as a person".
I made my choice based on the first way of saying it.
A type of character can be liked as a character, not as a person, if it is well developed, and that means that if the character is detestable and you hate it, then it is a good character.
I can't always say "I hate this stereotype", because sometimes I find myself liking a character that belongs to that type, and that is always a pleasant surprise, because that means the character is well done, but I can say I hate a certain stereotype when it represents a stupid way of showing the reality, and that's why I voted for the dumb guy who always get the girl, cause is really annoying when they show you something pitiable as something beautiful, and that's what they do when this character shows up -w-

Furan
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5:21 pm, Jun 5 2012
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I agree with Raine-san, I often find myself loving characters that in real life I would totally despise. It all depends on how well done the character is, so you can't really tie yourself up to any stereotype. But, if I analyze all the mangas I've read so far, the character I usually hate the most is the shy, innocent and cute character. Why? Because characters like that always seem fake to me. I can like them, but they have to be reeeaaally well done for me to believe that someone could actually act like that... And that is a hard thing to accomplish for any author.

As for the most voted one, the dumb guy who always gets the girl... I guess that I don't particularly hate them because I haven't read so many mangas with that kind of character. Hehe smile

mizaki2100
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It depends on the story. Like, there are big chested character I like while I also hate most of them. But if I have to narrow it down (from the choices), my vote goes to the boobie and the sweet Mary Sue character. Both are equally disgusting (in majority of the time).

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5:16 am, Jun 6 2012
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I choose "the dumb guy who always gets the girl"
Yeah i am pointing to the harem stereotype. Almost harem story where the guy magically got a lot of girls after him are usually dumb, nerd, not interesting at all. And i hate it because it is so unrealistic lol yeah i know, manga is supposed to be unrealistic, but please... I am female, that's why i take it very seriously. Also ugly girl who gets all the guys also can drive me mad.

Aside that. I also hate goody two shoes character, but it is not in the poll so yeah. I was contemplating to choose "the big chested character" also. Because it is not funny. And the boobs are in the way for me to fully enjoy the story.

Jooles
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10:13 pm, Jun 6 2012
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I was missing something in the lines of "'Pervert!' *slap*"-girls like everyone in Love Hina, etc. I much prefer the "Oh, you saw me naked, what are you gonna do about it? ;;wink" in that case, but then it always boils down to "AMAGAD, I'm so shy"-guys which I dislike just as much.

I'd love to see a manga (that is not hentai or romance-centered) and is still sexually MATURE. Preferably the main character; I've seen some with the brooding mentor-type with loose flings (ie. Holyland, for one). And definately preferably with all characters being adamant about the importance of shaving. But I digress.

Antaliss
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8:15 am, Jun 7 2012
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I'm much more annoyed by some authors inability to portray those stereotypical characters than by the stereotype itself.


kujika
Post #555107 - Reply to (#554146) by Whatever
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10:08 am, Jun 7 2012
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Tamaki is not dumb... like Ryuki of Saiunkoku Monogatari he has a smart and sly and tragic side to him.

Dumb is... the superficial kind of dumb.

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2:01 pm, Jun 7 2012
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Should have had an "All of the Above" selection. All those unrealistic stereotypes are annoying as hell. Tsundere should also be up there. All equally annoying. Aren't stereotypes supposed to have some truth to them, though? The hundreds of series where all the girls in a Japanese middle school have giant breasts (lol never thought I'd ever see "Japanese" and "giant breasts" in the same sentence). I've never heard of anyone making a fan club about another student in school either, even if there was a celebrity in the midst. A fan club would be compromised of girls and a few homos, never straight guys if there ever was one. Seen plenty of dumb jocks get a smart girl, but that rarely lasts. Never met a shy, innocent, cute girl that didn't blossom once in high school, unless they had some major flaw about them (crazy, taboo hobbies, sociopath, etc.). Never met anyone who I'd describe as flowery and dazzling, unless you count that acid-tripping hippie drum circle lol. Never met someone who is both evil and sly, usually just two-faced idiots. Met plenty of people who thought they were perfect, but I can always manage to knock them down a peg or two and they then become the stereotypical cutter. Lot's of guys/girls flirt with everyone, so I guess that one rings true. I've lived in the 3 biggest cities in the US and never met any of these except the last one I wrote about. Otherwise, I guess these are fantasy stereotypes and are all annoying.
Since we are talking about Japan and the like, the only stereotypes I've seen in my trips there is the shy person (99% of Japanese), the flirty person, and the superiority complex assholes (the perfect ones). Lost count of how many people called me a gaijin and waito turasu (white trash) laugh Guess they don't realize racial slurs don't really bother Caucasians.
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Post #555243 - Reply to (#554124) by Sorcha
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6:10 am, Jun 8 2012
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That's the 'Tsundere' character type mentioned in the comments above. At times 'tsun tsun' [onomatopoeia for acting cold], at times 'dere dere' [loving].

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