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That3rdGuy
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12:05 am, Jul 18 2012
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Forgive me if there's a topic about this already.

Why, WHY do so many manga and anime have scantily clad, prepubescent little girls?! Good examples would include Kodomo no Jikan, the ever popular magical girl series (don't know the names, but there are A LOT), and Alice in Wonderland knock-offs (the original story was created by a pedophile which may explain the Japanese's fascination of the story). Is pedophilia just sort of acceptable in Japan? And in many series the lolicon(s), a.k.a. pedophile, is treated like a playful joker. Like in Otaku no Musume-san, the lolicon is an accepted part of the tenants little "family." It's like "Oh you! Peeking up my daughters dress and dressing her in sexy adult costumes to take pictures. You crazy man, you haha!" no no no

I've read somewhere that almost every girl that rides on a subway in Japan gets molested before they're adults. People who are labeled lolicons should be publicly tortured, lobotomized, and/or put to death and it should be televised. I'm amazed that they can make hentai manga where a child is having sex with an adult whether it's rape or consensual. I know pedophilia is an issue in ever country, but why is it seem like it's not that bad in Japan. I know manga is rarely based on reality, but I've been to Japan several times and have witnessed groups of men photographing little girls in cosplay (and sometimes fashionable street wear) saying "Nice! Nice! Kawaii!" All the while the parents are just standing there, probably knowing that those men are likely going to masturbate to those photos. Somebody tried to take pictures of my 3-year-old daughter in her one-piece swimsuit at the pool and I had to physically take the camera away, break his SD card, toss the camera into the water and nearly had to beat his ass because he acted like it wasn't a big deal. Am I the only one who has issues with this? confused

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I'm in full agreement. I can't stand the loli characters whether they are technically of legal age or not. I understand in school manga that not every girl has reached that point in her development, but when I went to high school I don't remember any girls looking like they were ten.

I don't care if people think they are cute. If you want a cute little girl ('awww oh cute' cute not perverted cute) in the story then she should be a little girl, but she should never be sexualized in anyway. It is just gross.

I have to one hundred percent agree with your reactions to that guy. If it was me and I had a daughter and this was taking place I would not have stopped at destroying the man's camera. I probably would have beat the ____ out of him.

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Are you seriously asking or just letting off some steam? If you are really asking this out of curiousity i'll share my opinion.

The explanation is quite simple (my approach at least). From here on I will use the term "Otaku" to refer the classic model of what most of the people imagine when they hear the term (meaning: fat, ugly, glasses and anything reading wanna add on this description):

1.- Otaku (main target audience for this type of manga) often like to identify themselves with the (main) characters in a manga.


2.-- KEY POINT - Otaku will (in their minds only since fear/cowardice is a common trend) tend to prefer Virgin/sexually-unxepericed partners. Reason: A (virtual/real)person unexperienced is way less likely to ridiculate their own lack of experience (and/or small genitals if you prefer).

3.- Otaku fear/avoid contact with real people, thus everything above has to happen in their mind. Using this approach these Otaku are a race easy to exploit/money milk.

These three theories are what in my opinion explain most of the loli and in a wider field, the overflowing erotism in latest manga/anime works, also explains the sudden outrages that explode every now and then (ex. the infamous "Kannagi" case).

In my opinion, these otaku are innofensive since most are mainly cowards and will never take action outside of their own minds. But the dangerous ones are the ones that actually TRY to make contact beyond the screen. The one you mention in your incident might not be related to fictional works, it might be just a sick person (in the twisted sence of the term), thus your approach was in my opinion the most correct.



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Considering its pretty clear you never read KnJ and the fact you cannot even name any other series besides some incredible broad generalization that makes it impossible to check for content.

Not sure if troll ...

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6:07 am, Jul 18 2012
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Ha this kind of fits with this weeks poll, with characters that don't look their age.

Even worse is the existence of ジュニアアイド ル.

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Lolicons aren't pedophiles. Pedophiles are sick fucks that seriously find children sexually attractive. Lolicons are otaku, so they can only accept the unrealistic perfection they find in 2D. A lolicon wouldn't go near a real child, all otaku - lolicons included, find the 3D versions mortifying.

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Cthylla
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I am a girl and I love loli. <3

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Quote from caozhi
all otaku - lolicons included, find the 3D versions mortifying.

I wouldn't say all otaku. People like the idol otaku actually love their 3D laugh

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I'm a lolicon who works part time at a preschool day camp with fifteen kids who all get naked after swim time to change into their regular clothes. I sometimes help them get dressed and undressed, boys and girls. I've never been attracted to them sexually.

For all those guys who think that loli hentai is like child porn, seriously go look at one or two child porn pics. It's so much worse than any hentai you'll ever see. It's the most disturbing stuff on can find on the net in my opinion. Loli is not real. The reality of child porn and actual child molesters will hit you if you try looking at child porn just once. Trust me.

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But the chances of a "lolicon" getting real with poor kids are A LOT higher... making us watch so many lolies will end up somehow breaking our brains... our souls and ... well soom we will be too fucked up to care.

PD. left u should get some aid while u can.

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Ok, guys. There is a difference between lolicons and pedophiles and child molesters. The same way there is a difference between a guy that reads rape fiction and a rapist. Same way that the guy playing grand theft auto is different than a murderer. I am upset with real physical crime, rather that impressing my morality on thought crimes. I have a very wide range of tastes in my hentai and anime. Lolis, futas, big breasted girls of all sizes and ages, sporty types, whatever I think is cute and sexy. While to occasionally indulge in rape hentai, I have not made a habit of hurting any girls of any of these types. Not because I'm afraid, but because it is WRONG.

As for the why on the hentai or manga. The big problem with outlawing all of it, is that there are seriously some that are artistically and intelligently done or are excellent parody. Ones that make you really think about issues. I can think of one that so clearly illustrated the link between parental neglect and making the child vulnerable to sexual predation that it should be in textbooks. No one has to like this stuff, but to protect good we have to protect the bad too.

I certainly don't see any moral qualms about the legal girls that look loli. If you have issues with that, fuck you. You're a discriminating fool. I personally know a nice girl that is 19 but could pass for 12. The main reason we should be having issues about being with under-aged girls is that they're not emotionally and mentally ready for relationships. (Not that age helps with that really...) As a libertarian, I believe the second a person is mentally mature enough to deal with it, they should be able to make their own choices about it.

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The same question could go for 'Why so much fighting mangas?!' when fighting is socially immoral and looked down upon. A person could love fighting mangas and you won't see them going around fighting and beating everybody up.

Simple answer is: because it is popular. Popular sells.

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Quote from aagcnet
But the chances of a "lolicon" getting real with poor kids are A LOT higher... making us watch so many lolies will end up somehow breaking our brains... our souls and ... well soom we will be too fucked up to care.

PD. left u should get some aid while u can.


I really hope this is a troll post.

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Quote from Cthylla
Quote from aagcnet
But the chances of a "lolicon" getting real with poor kids are A LOT higher... making us watch so many lolies will end up somehow breaking our brains... our souls and ... well soom we will be too fucked up to care.

PD. left u should get some aid while u can.


I really hope this is a troll post.

Considering the poster? No doubt.

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Quote from Drakron
Considering its pretty clear you never read KnJ and the fact you cannot even name any other series besides some incredible broad generalization that makes it impossible to check for content.
Not sure if troll ...

You are incredibly ignorant or didn't read my entire post. Do I really need to search through the MU database to find you more examples or are you just playing stupid? I don't read any so why would I know their names? And half of the manga are romanji translations that are a pain in the ass to remember. If you think I was trolling, which I admittedly do time to time and it's what you're probably doing right now laugh , you are extremely mistaken. I merely hate people who see children as sexual objects, whether they are drawn or real. I've skimmed through and read several non-hentai manga with lolis (usually something with harems) and have been completely and utterly disgusted, including KnJ (dropped it because I don't have any desire to see nude and sexual scenes including little girls). You're acting like I'm biased or something, which doesn't really exist (in any intellectual form) when is comes to the issue of pedophilia, which is the same as lolicon IMO. Sometimes I'll click on the strangely named hentai series on the releases page that end up being all lolicon and see categories like "happy sex," "rape," "futanari," "incest," "defecation," etc., and can't believe one would buy, read, and much less create such a filthy publication. To slim down my "broad generalization," (LMAO) I was merely wondering why manga featuring little kids in revealing clothing or the more extreme loli-based hentai was so popular and how and why in God's name is it legal. They dress them in sexually provocative clothing even in non-ecchi series, too. It's like the sick trends that people (mostly women living vicariously through their children) over here in America dressing their 5-year-old daughters like whores in Little Miss whatever contests. Anyways, my questions were clear. You're coming off as a pro-lolicon, so good just keep it to your fantasies please. Your comment gave me a good laugh though, thanks laugh

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That's basically what I figured. I just don't understand why they don't seek out another virgin instead of a child though. I can sympathize with the fact of being ridiculed, but it's a better alternative than being a possible soon-to-be criminal for molesting some schoolgirl on the subway. To answer your question, I wanted to let off some steam while inquiring it's popularity, so both smile

@switchgear-
I wanted to beat the guy's ass SOOOO bad, but I didn't want to get thrown in jail in another country when it was only me and my two kids. Anyways, I'm glad there are people who agree with my opinion. It's not like I'm even one of those people who has had someone close to them raped or molested, I just despise the acts and the person committing it. Little girls can be cute, yes. But when they're wearing even something with words written on the seat of their pants (their ass), wearing short skirts/daisy dukes, or a shirt that reveals their stomach, I still find it disturbing because you know there are a bunch of adults staring at them perversely

Anyways, thanks for the great replies, aside from Drakon's. I basically got my answer so I doubt I'll return to this thread. I may not have used all the correct terminology, so cut me a break bigrazz

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