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strixflash
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Post #561713 |
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1:52 pm, Jul 18 2012 Posts: 655
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One of the most interesting chapter so far.....It also reminded me of one of my most favourite manga Fullmetal Alchemist
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Selim
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Post #561718 |
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2:18 pm, Jul 18 2012 Posts: 310
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I just want to see Tobis face already.
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Post #561720 - Reply to ( #561718) by Selim |
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2:31 pm, Jul 18 2012 Posts: 28
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Is it safe to bring back obito theories...... I mean cmon now, he has to be a leaf shinobi who knew kakashi's life of regret and he even knew that Guy doesn't remember his opponents faces(kisame). I really wouldn't put it past kishi to have the concept of time travel in naruto, I'm not saying its obito, but this guy has to be a leaf shinobi. Hopefully we get more hints in next weeks chapter.
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Post #561728 |
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3:26 pm, Jul 18 2012 Posts: 308
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I want naruto to rasengan his face already. I'm willing to bet its obito or madara's brother under that mask.
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Post #561737 - Reply to ( #561728) by neonkitty |
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4:36 pm, Jul 18 2012 Posts: 863
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Quote from neonkitty I want naruto to rasengan his face already. I'm willing to bet its obito or madara's brother under that mask.
I've thought it was Obito all along, even when everyone else was convinced it was Madara under the mask... I kept convincing myself it could be Madara but in Obito's body. The name Tobi is just too much of a hint in my opinion. So it would be nice if we were back to the Obito theory.
However I wouldn't be surprised if it were Madara's brother under the mask. At the very least I am pretty sure it has to be a Konoha shinobi, very likely an Uchiha at that.
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Post #561745 |
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5:48 pm, Jul 18 2012 Posts: 206
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so, now onto Naruto 594:
~ aaah, Kurama, where were you earlier? he's so cute ^^
~ DEIDARA-bocchi??DEIDARA?.. ahaaaa, so that's where he got his name(?)...~.o
~ blablablablablablabla - maskedwhatnotguy goes on and on
~"I'm gonna become a Hokage that beats out all the previous generations!! That's my dream!!! You IDIOT!!!" yeah, show him Naruto who's the boss
~ "I can't believe you had the courage to reveal your sexual fetish at a time like this, Bee!" ~~fuuun
~rasengan?blahblahblahblah...battle?huh? oh, so it''s gonna start?THE battle? yay...no excitement whatsoever
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Post #561780 |
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9:20 pm, Jul 18 2012 Posts: 414
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Would be cool if Naruto tossed a Rasen-shuriken and Tobi caught it with his fan and tossed it back. That would be awesome to see.
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Cherelle Ashlee
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Post #561851 |
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4:27 am, Jul 19 2012 Posts: 339
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Why do people think its Obito? This makes me really really want to know who he is now......
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Post #561859 - Reply to ( #561851) by Cherelle Ashlee |
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6:23 am, Jul 19 2012 Posts: 308
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Quote from Cherelle Ashlee Why do people think its Obito? This makes me really really want to know who he is now......
I had always believed Obito was Tobi but I was fully convinced when I realized the similarities between him and Kakashi's jutsus. For everyone's convenience I've copy and pasted what I found on yahoo, but the link can be found at the bottom if interested.
"TOBI AS OBITO?
Kakashi's left eye and Tobi's right eye. They have similar powers. Kakashi teleports Pain’s rocket to another dimension. Kamui, jutsu has the ability to manipulate space, and was shown to be able to suck targets or even tear off parts of a target and hurl them into another dimension. He cannot use this ability to it fullest because he is not from the Uchida Clan and it severely exhausts his chakara. Tobi teleports root members and their abilities in a battle. His power seems to have a heavy influence in alternate dimensions and teleportation. If Tobi is Obito, it is logical that Obito can fully use the Kamui. This jutsu has the ability to manipulate space and time which Tobi does use in his battle against Fu and Torune.
If Tobi were Obito, they represent about the same timeline and age. Although it is only speculation. Obito and Tobi hair. Obito and Tobi similarities in name.'Obito' and 'Tobi' are both parodies of the Japanese word 'tobitobi' which means 'scattered here and there; at intervals'. Their demeanor is similar.
Tobi Never says that he is Madara, but has the power of Madara. Tobi never uses the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan that Madara has. Nor do we ever see the pattern of a Mangekyo Sharingan. Also Why would you talk about yourself in third person. Instead of saying I am Madara. Madara would be a fossil, just look at how old the 3rd Hokage was when he knew the 1st hokage. 1st Hokage and Madara are about the same age. If Madara did use a transfer technique like Orichimaru, he would physically have to transfer his Uchida eyes. The eyes grow old too, don’t they?
Yamato has the abilities of the First Hokage. It doesnt really make him the First Hokage does it?
Could Obito have survived? If Obito could teleport like his teacher, Minato, then he could have escaped from the rocks. Minato need to develop Obito’s abilities. So we don’t know if Obito was able to develop other techniques while Kakashi developed his Chidori. Obito was obviously weak. He refers to himself as the “black sheep of the Uchida”. He knew he was weak but wanted to prove otherwise. What better way than to eventually obtain the power of Madara. If he eventually takes Kakashi’s eye back, maybe just maybe he could even awaken an Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan. With the aid of the other Akatski, that even reattached Deidra’s missing arm, Obito could restore his right side physically or mechanically. He could even used Orichimaru’s body transfer and physically transfer the eye. There are a lot of explaintions that could logically explain how Obito escaped and restored his body. We just need to wait...
If Obito survived why wouldn’t he return to Konoha? He was betrayed and out casted. The Uchida didn’t accept him. His sharingan wasn’t developing. He had an eye condition. He was weak. His comrades including Minato left him behind. Minato sent them into battle carelessly and it got Obito killed. Obito says that those who leave their comrades behind are worse than scum. He calls the White Fang of Konoha a hero, but he dies because of the people of Konoha’s resentment. Konoha seems to be commonly hated by the Akatski. How could be return to his love Rin physically half a man and weak. While Rin loved Kakashi. Obito could not return unless he was more powerful than Kakashi. Rin is supposedly died. Obito’s only dying wish was for Kakashi to take care of Rin; he failed.
Obito would not be happy if he lived. He would want revenge for Rin. He wanted to show everyone in the Uchida Clan and Konoha just how strong he could become. He would want his body back. What better way than to obtain the powers of Madara, form Akatski, and obtain power and absolute rule through the power of the 10 tails.
Evidence from the text. Tobi’s body. His right Sharingan has no need for reference. Right Arm is detachable in Naruto 475. What kind of Jutsu is that? Lol. Thowing Arm Jutsu? I hope he isn’t right handed cause that wouldn’t hurt much. In a battle against Fu and Torune he is able to detach his right arm when it becomes infected. Right arm of Obito was crushed. Naruto 395 is the first time Tobi reveals his Sharingan to Kakashi. Observe when Kakashi notices the sharingan. Look at the last three illustration boxes. Sheer coincidence? I think not.
IT IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE OBVIOUS WERE THIS IS HEADED
WHAT DO YOU THINK?"
credit goes to punked8884 http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100610132851A AUetHF
Although I do see the slight flaws in his reasoning, I still think Obito is Tobi. And we all know that Madara can't be Tobi so we can cross him out............................... OR he could be Madara's brother but who knows 
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Post #561868 - Reply to ( #561859) by neonkitty |
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10:28 am, Jul 19 2012 Posts: 146
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ok i have 1 problem its UCHIHA
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Cherelle Ashlee
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Post #561945 - Reply to ( #561859) by neonkitty |
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11:54 pm, Jul 19 2012 Posts: 339
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Quote from neonkitty Quote from Cherelle Ashlee Why do people think its Obito? This makes me really really want to know who he is now...... I had always believed Obito was Tobi but I was fully convinced when I realized the similarities between him and Kakashi's jutsus. For everyone's convenience I've copy and pasted what I found on yahoo, but the link can be found at the bottom if interested. "TOBI AS OBITO? Kakashi's left eye and Tobi's right eye. They have similar powers. Kakashi teleports Pain’s rocket to another dimension. Kamui, jutsu has the ability to manipulate space, and was shown to be able to suck targets or even tear off parts of a target and hurl them into another dimension. He cannot use this ability to it fullest because he is not from the Uchida Clan and it severely exhausts his chakara. Tobi teleports root members and their abilities in a battle. His power seems to have a heavy influence in alternate dimensions and teleportation. If Tobi is Obito, it is logical that Obito can fully use the Kamui. This jutsu has the ability to manipulate space and time which Tobi does use in his battle against Fu and Torune. If Tobi were Obito, they represent about the same timeline and age. Although it is only speculation. Obito and Tobi hair. Obito and Tobi similarities in name.'Obito' and 'Tobi' are both parodies of the Japanese word 'tobitobi' which means 'scattered here and there; at intervals'. Their demeanor is similar. Tobi Never says that he is Madara, but has the power of Madara. Tobi never uses the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan that Madara has. Nor do we ever see the pattern of a Mangekyo Sharingan. Also Why would you talk about yourself in third person. Instead of saying I am Madara. Madara would be a fossil, just look at how old the 3rd Hokage was when he knew the 1st hokage. 1st Hokage and Madara are about the same age. If Madara did use a transfer technique like Orichimaru, he would physically have to transfer his Uchida eyes. The eyes grow old too, don’t they? Yamato has the abilities of the First Hokage. It doesnt really make him the First Hokage does it? Could Obito have survived? If Obito could teleport like his teacher, Minato, then he could have escaped from the rocks. Minato need to develop Obito’s abilities. So we don’t know if Obito was able to develop other techniques while Kakashi developed his Chidori. Obito was obviously weak. He refers to himself as the “black sheep of the Uchida”. He knew he was weak but wanted to prove otherwise. What better way than to eventually obtain the power of Madara. If he eventually takes Kakashi’s eye back, maybe just maybe he could even awaken an Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan. With the aid of the other Akatski, that even reattached Deidra’s missing arm, Obito could restore his right side physically or mechanically. He could even used Orichimaru’s body transfer and physically transfer the eye. There are a lot of explaintions that could logically explain how Obito escaped and restored his body. We just need to wait... If Obito survived why wouldn’t he return to Konoha? He was betrayed and out casted. The Uchida didn’t accept him. His sharingan wasn’t developing. He had an eye condition. He was weak. His comrades including Minato left him behind. Minato sent them into battle carelessly and it got Obito killed. Obito says that those who leave their comrades behind are worse than scum. He calls the White Fang of Konoha a hero, but he dies because of the people of Konoha’s resentment. Konoha seems to be commonly hated by the Akatski. How could be return to his love Rin physically half a man and weak. While Rin loved Kakashi. Obito could not return unless he was more powerful than Kakashi. Rin is supposedly died. Obito’s only dying wish was for Kakashi to take care of Rin; he failed. Obito would not be happy if he lived. He would want revenge for Rin. He wanted to show everyone in the Uchida Clan and Konoha just how strong he could become. He would want his body back. What better way than to obtain the powers of Madara, form Akatski, and obtain power and absolute rule through the power of the 10 tails. Evidence from the text. Tobi’s body. His right Sharingan has no need for reference. Right Arm is detachable in Naruto 475. What kind of Jutsu is that? Lol. Thowing Arm Jutsu? I hope he isn’t right handed cause that wouldn’t hurt much. In a battle against Fu and Torune he is able to detach his right arm when it becomes infected. Right arm of Obito was crushed. Naruto 395 is the first time Tobi reveals his Sharingan to Kakashi. Observe when Kakashi notices the sharingan. Look at the last three illustration boxes. Sheer coincidence? I think not. IT IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE OBVIOUS WERE THIS IS HEADED WHAT DO YOU THINK?" credit goes to punked8884 http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100610132851A AUetHFAlthough I do see the slight flaws in his reasoning, I still think Obito is Tobi. And we all know that Madara can't be Tobi so we can cross him out............................... OR he could be Madara's brother but who knows
Although that person gave a lengthy explanation on why Tobi is Obito, I still do not beleive that he is. First, we are not certain whether Rin is dead or alive, I have not seen any evidence to state what happen to her. Second, there was not much closure about Obito to state that he is Tobi. I think the author only included Obito in the manga to explain Kakashi past and how he change from a cold hearted ninja who left his comrades behind to complete his missions to not leaving anyone behind because of Obito. Obito had a huge influence over Kakashi and he kinda altered his mindset on what a ninja job truly is. Basically, I think Obito was also introduced to show how Kakashi got the Sharingan. Other than the 3rd ninja war with the younger Kakashi, Obito's name was never mention again in the manga :/ . Thirdly, Tobi seems to have more hatred towards the early leaf village when it was controlled by the first and second hokage. I might be wrong and Tobi really might be Obito, but there was not much closure on Obito to state that, just sayin....
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Post #561946 - Reply to ( #561859) by neonkitty |
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12:23 am, Jul 20 2012 Posts: 599
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Quote from neonkitty I had always believed Obito was Tobi but I was fully convinced when I realized the similarities between him and Kakashi's jutsus. For everyone's convenience I've copy and pasted what I found on yahoo, but the link can be found at the bottom if interested.
"TOBI AS OBITO?
Kakashi's left eye ...
sorry pal but this mangaka so far havent introduced any char just for the sake of it (he do introduce items / skills that way tho... make me remember that cute almighty scroll lol). All those plot holes are left that way to be used in case they are needed to solve future plot needs, as i said THERE's a future gaiden about rin's / kakashi she may be dead or disabled who knows, kakashi did visit a grave and said he wasnt able to save her but knowing japanese language maybe they never mention the sex of the owner and it may have been obito's grave tho.
Only one thing is clear and its that we will know who the hell is tobi in less than 10 chapters .
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neonkitty
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Post #561947 |
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12:39 am, Jul 20 2012 Posts: 308
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I agree but I don't see a whole new character being introduced, so I'm sticking with Obito until Tobi reveals his face  OR... Tobi can be Rin! Sh*t just got real 
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Post #561949 - Reply to ( #561947) by neonkitty |
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12:53 am, Jul 20 2012 Posts: 599
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Quote from neonkitty I agree but I don't see a whole new character being introduced, so I'm sticking with Obito until Tobi reveals his face OR... Tobi can be Rin! Sh*t just got real
LOL yah @ RIN, knowing kishi thats likely to happen lol indeed.
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Selim
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Post #562187 |
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11:12 am, Jul 21 2012 Posts: 310
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It can't be Obito, please people.
We saw Tobi in a flashback 12 years ago.. This is not some simple matter. Why would even Obito feel this kind of hatred towards the world.
Took this from the Naruto Wiki for those of you who have forgotten.
Quote Twelve years before the start of the series, Tobi discovered that Kushina Uzumaki, Kurama's jinchūriki, would be going into childbirth, causing the seal keeping Kurama contained within her to weaken. Tobi found where Kushina was being kept, killed her ANBU bodyguards and midwives, and took her son, Naruto, hostage. Naruto's father, the Fourth Hokage, Minato Namikaze, took Naruto back from him, in doing so separating himself from Kushina and allowing Tobi to kidnap her. As the seal was about to break, Tobi used his Sharingan to put Kurama under his control. Since Kushina survived the extraction, Tobi tried to have Kurama kill her. Minato arrived in time to save her and retreat. Tobi, uninterested, summoned Kurama into Konoha and ordered it to destroy the village.
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Tobi
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