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Quality vs. Speed (mangapirate case)

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youni89
Post #570461 - Reply to (#570443) by podlizurko
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1:40 pm, Sep 18 2012
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you make it sound like we need you to come and read from us. Be a good beggar and wait the extra week for your precious the company version of TOG if you're gonna just come and read our hard work, and then do nothing but criticize us for it. Please don't read from our site, thanks.

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2:18 pm, Sep 18 2012
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From a readers point of view, why does it have to be "vs."?
Why do I have to decide which of the two releases I will read?

I will obviously read whatever is out first. And if I am not content with the quality, I will read an alternative release. Even if it turns out that the faster release is totally crappy, I will still read it and just regard it as a sneak view into the current chapter.

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Post #570464 - Reply to (#570462) by JustPassingBy
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podlizurko
Post #570466 - Reply to (#570461) by youni89
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Quote from youni89
you make it sound like we need you to come and read from us. Be a good beggar and wait the extra week for your precious the company version of TOG if you're gonna just come and read our hard work, and then do nothing but criticize us for it. Please don't read from our site, thanks.


Like hell i made it sound like that.Not a beggar , i have contributed more for the scanlation community than you ever will achieve , so stop with the petty insults. Your work isn't hard , you just mash up something and wait for the money to come after it. And one last time , do think before speaking , where is this extra week you invented there coming from?

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guys, would you cut it out?!
would you please let private matters be private? You can annoy each other with pm's but please stop it here...

@JustPassingBy: You just decided that you'd take speed over quality...

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Please stick to the topic.
@podlizurko- I wont argue as I am fully aware that I dont stand a chance of winning here and especially in Batoto Forums . Truth is truth and it wont be changed. You never provided an valid and upto mark source so that I can believe Batoto doesnt earns a cent for itself. It just doesnt make a damn sense that those millions of views on your popular series and also on many other series(not done by you but by inactive groups) arent enough to pay for servers. Dont worry no one is going to question you just because a random leecher asked about it and I am sure your answers are already prepared.
Like I said in the past,you guys are still far better than MP and mangafox as you are supporting scanlators.

I am still reading and will continue to read EGS releases mainly because of their quality standards.I said it in my previous post MP have improved and I wont deny it but they are nowhere near EGS.
I am having many series in my wish list and I can patiently wait for EGS to release while I can busy myself with other series.

Edit: Like I thought,arguing with Batoto staff is as useless as asking a dead man for directions. I really dont want to move away from the topic but since many people hate MP for its money earning policy(ofcourse including me and the other reason is they are doing series which are already being scanned);I think Batoto should also be brought to light. They dont keep an extra scent with themselves? Can you please stick to one answer? You previously said they dont have enough to pay for servers and now you are saying as soon as servers are paid they give it to scanlators? Syphilis once said Batoto's owner pays for servers from his pockets.Even a child can deduce the earnings seeing the popularity of Batoto and the no. of views especially from popular series including series done by you guys. I dont really have any resources to prove Batoto(The Company) doesnt keeps money for itself but neither you have to prove me wrong that Batoto doesnt earns for itself(keeps the change for itself). Its more like you guys helps scanlators while also filling your pockets.
Further discussion will be moving out of the topic. I mentioned Batoto(The Company) here seeing many people only hated MP for its money earning policy and not for its quality-the topic for which the thread is meant to be.
Please let the posts only related to the topic and if you want you can create a new topic in forums regarding the money and theft matter by MP.

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Post #570470 - Reply to (#570468) by Lorska
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Quote from Lorska
guys, would you cut it out?!
would you please let private matters be private? You can annoy each other with pm's but please stop it here...

@JustPassingBy: You just decided that you'd take speed over quality...


No, I took both. I take speed first, because that opportunity presents itself first.
However if the quality is not to my satisfaction, I will gladly look into alternative releases.

edit: to make it more clear:
If there are two releases, one which comes first but with crappy quality, the other which comes later but with good quality, I'd just read both.

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Post #570475 - Reply to (#570466) by podlizurko
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i have contributed more for the scanlation community than you ever will achieve

so you stole more manga from the authors than we could ever do? you're proud of that, you thief?

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Post #570479 - Reply to (#570475) by youni89
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so you stole more manga from the authors than we could ever do? you're proud of that, you thief?


That's enough.
If you can't discuss on a reasonable level anymore then just stop.

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Post #570487 - Reply to (#570469) by tragicking
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Quote from tragicking
Please stick to the topic.
@podlizurko- I wont argue as I am fully aware that I dont stand a chance of winning here and especially in Batoto Forums . Truth is truth and it wont be changed. You never provided an valid and upto mark source so that I can believe Batoto doesnt earns a cent for itself. It just doesnt make a damn sense that those millions of views on your popular series and also on many other series(not done by you but by inactive groups) arent enough to pay for servers. Dont worry no one is going to question you just because a random leecher asked about it and I am sure your answers are already prepared.
Like I said in the past,you guys are still far better than MP and mangafox as you are supporting scanlators.

I am still reading and will continue to read EGS releases mainly because of their quality standards.I said it in my previous post MP have improved and I wont deny it but they are nowhere near EGS.
I am having many series in my wish list and I can patiently wait for EGS to release while I can busy myself with other series.


I haven't said that batoto doesnt earn a cent for itself at all , it has to pay its own servers somehow , but as soon as that is covered everything else goes to scanlators evenly without regarding how much they make from the adshare.I know its not much but atleast that's the best possible way to keep the name as cleared as it can be.

And yes you can win , reason trumps everything.If it doesnt that means someone doesnt do us justice , last big case were mp fans trying to do what stirxflash is pretty much doing now.

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Resolve your issues in private.

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Post #570492 - Reply to (#570487) by podlizurko
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Sorry? I didnt get you. What did you mean by what I am doing now ?
The thread was created for this matter right? Shouldnt their improvement be noticed as well? I dont think I moved out of the topic and started a new topic here.
Edit: Like I said previousley,I dont read much on MangaPirate. I only read the chapters done by them when I am in mood for spoilers for upcoming chapters...its far better than reading summaries. I always read/download the chapters done by quality groups.
I am trying to glorify them? Nah....not interested in them so much. Its just like I said I previousley I dont like many ganging up on one.
I am not their FAN but I dont hate them enough to criticise them..... I read their chapters so I feel obligated to support them...its just that much and nothing else.

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That's enough.
If you can't discuss on a reasonable level anymore then just stop.

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Lol if youni is reported, so should that pod woman for provoking him. This whole thread derailed over a dozen pages ago, don't pretend like it hasn't.

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Post #570672 - Reply to (#570670) by pknoctis
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Lol if youni is reported, so should that pod woman for provoking him. This whole thread derailed over a dozen pages ago, don't pretend like it hasn't.



not a woman + i havent provoked anyone , with the exception of 1-2 posts i was only answering to their ridiculous claims/statements/



tragicking - i said there were times when servers costs couldn't be met , but when that did all the excess of income is distrubuted to the scanlators that can recieve it

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Post #570673 - Reply to (#570670) by pknoctis
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Actually if you check a page back it started with strix and pod arguing then comes youni provoking pod, so ur point is invalid, Lorska (not just him) has tried to get this topic back on rail and despite some attempts which got ignored so he just decided to use the nifty report button.

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