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MajorMarmot
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I have been noticing that a lot of people hate Sasuke.

I think that he is a more or less a standard shounen or seinen character (a little dark to be completely shounen and a little light to be seinen)

So…Why do people hate Sasuke?


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Emo

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Because you said you were breaking the rules, you posted more than one word, therefore didn't break any rules. Funny how that works, huh?

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Could he be considered Emo?

He’s not constantly lamenting himself or writing poetry; instead he trains and fights to archive his goals.

He doesn’t try to kill himself, he kills his enemies.

If he doesn’t have close friends, is because he is afraid that Itachi might kill all of his loved ones….again…

I think that Emo are more passive people, and Sasuke is a really active character.

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Could he be considered Emo?

He’s not constantly lamenting himself or writing poetry; instead he trains and fights to archive his goals.

He doesn’t try to kill himself, he kills his enemies.

If he doesn’t have close friends, is because he is afraid that Itachi might kill all of his loved ones….again…

I think that Emo are more passive people, and Sasuke is a really active character.


He constantly remorses on his past, and how he can't have any friends because of (insert tragic event here.) He wallows in self-pity and has taken it upon himself as his one mission to take revenge on his brother. He refuses to be beaten by a 'lesser' person like Naruto, and doesn't know the meaning of hard work.

Instead of hard work he must always find the faster option to 'leveling up' ie. Curse Seal/ Orochimaru.

In three years he became the god of uberness who killed a Seinen and proceeded to kill one of the Akatsuki without any real issue. He's simply Godly, and gay, and oh did I say gay? And selfish. His overpoweredness is completely different from Naruto in that Naruto spent three years with Jiraiya and didn't appear to learn -anything-.

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He constantly remorses on his past, and how he can't have any friends because of (insert tragic event here.) He wallows in self-pity and has taken it upon himself as his one mission to take revenge on his brother. He refuses to be beaten by a 'lesser' person like Naruto, and doesn't know the meaning of hard work.

Instead of hard work he must always find the faster option to 'leveling up' ie. Curse Seal/ Orochimaru.

In three years he became the god of uberness who killed a Seinen and proceeded to kill one of the Akatsuki without any real issue. He's simply Godly, and gay, and oh did I say gay? And selfish. His overpoweredness is completely different from Naruto in that Naruto spent three years with Jiraiya and didn't appear to learn -anything-.


Couldn't say it better, I agree completely. He is just a pitiful and mediocre character, nowhere near the type of character I want in a Manga. He betrayed his friends just because he wanted fast power as Spawnblade said, Sasuke only thinks about Sasuke, if he cared about Itachi killing his beloved ones, he could start by not leaving naruto almost dead when they fought or trying to kill him with the sword when they saw each other again , isn't he one of the "beloved" ones he wanted to protect from Itachi roll eyes ? He just doesn't want friends because they are an obstacle to his stupid plans. The only thing I will like about sasuke, will be his death cool .

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Instead of hard work he must always find the faster option to 'leveling up' ie. Curse Seal/ Orochimaru.


He did train 3 years under Orochimaru, and we didn’t see the actual training because he isn’t the lead character, but having as example all the experiments that Orochimaru did with all his others “disciples” we can assume that it had to be hell.

Orochimaru is not a fatherly figure as Jiraya, he’s more like the madman that wants to kill you and use you’re body. It’s easy to assume that his training has to be tougher than Jiraya’s.

[quote ]In three years he became the god of uberness who killed a Seinen and proceeded to kill one of the Akatsuki without any real issue. [/quote]

Even Sakura defeated an Akatsuki.....I mean....Sakura....

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His overpoweredness is completely different from Naruto in that Naruto spent three years with Jiraiya and didn't appear to learn -anything-.


Didn’t Naruto learn a technique that took the fourth several years to master in a fraction of the time? Besides, Naruto is the lead, he has already defeated Sasuke and he will again in the end.

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He's simply Godly, and gay, and oh did I say gay? And selfish.


He is selfish and he might really be gay....he thinks more about Naruto than all the girls that have been near him...yeap...he might be homo...I give you that. bigrazz

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Couldn't say it better, I agree completely. He is just a pitiful and mediocre character, nowhere near the type of character I want in a Manga. He betrayed his friends just because he wanted fast power as Spawnblade said, Sasuke only thinks about Sasuke, if he cared about Itachi killing his beloved ones, he could start by not leaving naruto almost dead when they fought or trying to kill him with the sword when they saw each other again , isn't he one of the "beloved" ones he wanted to protect from Itachi roll eyes ? He just doesn't want friends because they are an obstacle to his stupid plans. The only thing I will like about sasuke, will be his death cool .


How did he betray his friends? Leaving the village?

He never killed any Konoha ninja, and even when he HAD to kill Naruto to gain the new sharingan, he didn’t.

He did beat up Naruto but:

1- Naruto is pretty annoying.
2- They had fights before.
3- They’re freaking Ninja, that’s what they do



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How did he betray his friends? Leaving the village?

He never killed any Konoha ninja, and even when he HAD to kill Naruto to gain the new sharingan, he didn’t.

He did beat up Naruto but:

1- Naruto is pretty annoying.
2- They had fights before.
3- They’re freaking Ninja, that’s what they do

Betray is being disloyal to something or someone, he leave the village to go with the village enemy, isn't that betray? I don't think he has to kill someone from Konoha to betray his friends.
Naruto is annoying I know. About other fights I just remember one "real" fight (sorry for bad memory) and Kakashi stopped them.


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Could he be considered Emo?

He’s not constantly lamenting himself or writing poetry; instead he trains and fights to archive his goals.

He doesn’t try to kill himself, he kills his enemies.

If he doesn’t have close friends, is because he is afraid that Itachi might kill all of his loved ones….again…

I think that Emo are more passive people, and Sasuke is a really active character.


He constantly remorses on his past, and how he can't have any friends because of (insert tragic event here.) He wallows in self-pity and has taken it upon himself as his one mission to take revenge on his brother. He refuses to be beaten by a 'lesser' person like Naruto, and doesn't know the meaning of hard work.

Instead of hard work he must always find the faster option to 'leveling up' ie. Curse Seal/ Orochimaru.

In three years he became the god of uberness who killed a Seinen and proceeded to kill one of the Akatsuki without any real issue. He's simply Godly, and gay, and oh did I say gay? And selfish. His overpoweredness is completely different from Naruto in that Naruto spent three years with Jiraiya and didn't appear to learn -anything-.


...yeah all of that...and hes a traitorous bastard toolaugh

what i dont understand is why so many people love him...i mean sure hes "cool" and strong but don't neiji and gaara fit that bill too? why pick the traitor whos willing to sell his soul to the devil for revenge.

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How did he betray his friends? Leaving the village?

He never killed any Konoha ninja, and even when he HAD to kill Naruto to gain the new sharingan, he didn’t.

He did beat up Naruto but:

1- Naruto is pretty annoying.
2- They had fights before.
3- They’re freaking Ninja, that’s what they do

Betray is being disloyal to something or someone, he leave the village to go with the village enemy, isn't that betray? I don't think he has to kill someone from Konoha to betray his friends.
Naruto is annoying I know. About other fights I just remember one "real" fight (sorry for bad memory) and Kakashi stopped them.


…..No….

Ninja villages business is to receive various special tasks as job offers, and we never saw Sasuke taking any kind of job.

He didn’t attack Konoha Ninjas when they were doing their job or stop them in any way.

Konoha didn’t suffer for the loss of Sasuke except the fact that he was not working for them anymore.

He did go to another village that was competing against Konoha and KILLED the leader, Orochimaru, that was actually a villain that Konoha was trying to kill for some time before, doing a greater good to Konoha that if he was actually working for them.

If he betrayed someone, it was the Sound Village, not Konoha, and they were the bad guys.


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…..No….

Ninja villages business is to receive various special tasks as job offers, and we never saw Sasuke taking any kind of job.

He didn’t attack Konoha Ninjas when they were doing their job or stop them in any way.

Konoha didn’t suffer for the loss of Sasuke except the fact that he was not working for them anymore.

He did go to another village that was competing against Konoha and KILLED the leader, Orochimaru, that was actually a villain that Konoha was trying to kill for some time before, doing a greater good to Konoha that if he was actually working for them.

If he betrayed someone, it was the Sound Village, not Konoha, and they were the bad guys.


He didnt exactly kill orochimaru to help konoha out with an old enemy you know. The only reason sasuke killed him was cuz orochi was gonna take over his body soon. Besides thats kinda of a betrayl too. SO not only did he betray his friends and village who care about him he betrayed his murderous mentor too.

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I can definitely agree he didnt betray Konoha, but I have to say he definitely betrayed his friends, no matter how frequently he was annoyed by them, they were still relatively good friends.

Hes also quite possibly borderline insane, so you cant really blame him too much, what really matters is how he is going to act towards his friends after he has finally killed Itachi. If he decides to continue to blow them off after he kills Itachi, then hes just an ass and isnt worthy of any respect except in regards to his strength.

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Didn’t Naruto learn a technique that took the fourth several years to master in a fraction of the time? Besides, Naruto is the lead, he has already defeated Sasuke and he will again in the end.
yondaime created the jutsu, it takes time to create something from nothing, unlike just following instructions....
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He never killed any Konoha ninja, and even when he HAD to kill Naruto to gain the new sharingan, he didn’t.
weird... i could swear i remember sasuke's hand piercing naruto's chest... if this isn't trying to kill someone i don't know what it is....
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Konoha didn’t suffer for the loss of Sasuke except the fact that he was not working for them anymore.
a kekkei genkai user abandoning the village is a matter of great importance to the village, if they gone as far as killing neji's father so that even one dead byakugan user wouldn't get in other village's hands, what do you think of the last sharingan user of konoha. confused

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He's smug, arrogant and unpleasant and always was even BEFORE he betrayed everyone who believed in him. He's stupidly obsessive and single minded and he just goes ON AND ON! He's also petty and self-centered- just remember how uptight he got when he though Naruto might be stronger than him. And yet, everyone loves him and obsesses over him as though he's the center of the universe, which I'm sure his ego just LOVES, when frankly the series would be better off without him.

And lets face it, he's genuinely little different from the series' villains like Orochimaru and Itachi in his cold-bloodedness and obsession with power at any cost. It doesn't matter if his motive is revenge, that's not really a better motive than Orochimaru's (a point made again and again by Kakashi). Let's face it, Sasuke is a villain not a hero now, and the sooner Naruto wakes up and smells the coffee, the better. I think the reason we all hate him is because everyone obsesses over him despite this.

It's also a knee-jerk reaction to him being bish. Plus, in a series where almost every character's name has some kind of meaning, he has the most boring and generic ninja name it's possible to come up with.

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Alright lets just get this out there, did we all SEE what he looked like when he released/used his seal? My god it was like taking a giant flaming homo (and I mean FLAMING), and an emo (doesn't even deserve the title of goth, just emo) with a little bit of freaky fetish, and combining them. Are they wings? Are they hands? Nobody really knows . . .

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