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President Election: Obama VS Romney

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Post #569309 - Reply to (#569270) by Scyfon
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2:49 am, Sep 9 2012
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alright....what? Hitler? Yes Hitler believed in gravity, and that moustache's were sexy.

does that make moustaches evil?

Look I'm not going to get all sidetracked on hitler. came in to post about the canidates because thats the topic.

I can't vote for Romney because he's running a grammar Nazi campaign at the moment. which current policy leads to shoot on sight. I have no respect for the man. he needs to be clubed with a blunt instrument. "We Built It" go to hell romney.

Sorry moral opposition to Romney and anyone who votes for him, thats just disgusting, thats even more disgusting that god, what hitler did. at least Hitler earned some respect for his actions. All Romney's got is some people can't vote for Obama and he's the other choice, because they don't like Obama's 4 years.

that leaves Obama or a write in choice of Hitler. apparently. Hitler being dead (most likely) would make him a bad choice for president.

Obama has 4 years experience at being president. and while he hasn't fixed everything in 4 years, nobody reasonable thought he would, and well his 4 years of experience are 4 more than Romney has at anything decent.

People mostly who want to vote for Obama want to do so because they feel that he didn't do well with his 4 years as president. I personally don't think thats reasonable. they give all sorts of mishy mashy whining tripe about *****. Took Truman like 4 terms as president and outside influence to end his great depression, wasn't anything Truman DID particularly that ended it.

So I'm not going to vote against Obama because he hasn't done the impossible. and I'm not going to vote for Romney because he's trying REALLY hard to get me to dislike him/actively beat him up.

Frankly if the repubs didn't have all the gun nuts I'd probably just opt for settling this with a nice civil war. what *I* personally feel this country needs.

I also hate the electoral process where it gets decided by 'swing states' and 'undecided' voters. who at this point make their decision based on the s***iest of reasons.

but yeah, I am an undecided voter to anyone who polls me, because otherwise I don't matter.

but for gods sakes the undecided voters are the most retarded americans. and they are the ones deciding the election. whats wrong with this?

ponbiki
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3:25 am, Sep 9 2012
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I like Romney because he is the only republican I have ever seen be honest and publicly state he doesn't give a sh*t about poor people.

I also like that he can't or doesn't bother to remember peoples names when he talks to them—everyone is beneath him anyways, why bother wasting the time or effort?

Insulting all of London on his trip over there and having everyone in that country imply that he is devoid of any class, just puts icing on the cake—really... who cares about London these days anyways?

I really think it would be interesting to see him destroy the middle class, and I can't wait to see what other crazy things he would do, both foreign and domestic, once in office.

Obama, if re-elected, will likely just give a bunch of well-crafted, somewhat entertaining speeches—I demand a bit more entertainment from my President than just speeches though... eyes

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3:47 am, Sep 9 2012
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Quote from Scyfon
So...pretty much what Hitler believed?

Godwin's Law, everyone cool


umm, urgghhh, rofl, well for Godwin's Law to work. There shouldn't be someone who already knew it and insert "Hitler" in a conversation that isn't long enough lol. For all we know, you could compare to Hitler since the 1st response.

I gonna addressed this post. Since without addressing this point, this thread is pointless. Because when a group of people reached "everyone is entitled to their opinion." There is no longer a move forward point thus rendered the whole conversation pointless.

This issues plague the election. It isn't so much about the candidates. But the voters' knowledge about the candidates' trend is going straight to hell recently even when we are at the information age. Whether it is about abortion, or gay marriage, or financial reform, or super pac, or teaching evolution should be ban in school, when the phrase, "everyone is entitled to their opinion" come up. It isn't a 50-50 situation. It meant that the establishment win. It meant that tradition win.

I don't see evolution and creationism as opinions, nor equivalent opinions. I don't see protecting the right of a sperm and egg (in which some extreme GOP are doing since their law would effect even before pregnancy) while a preexisting human child's future and social mobility is going straight to hell. Should everything be privatize? Because prisons are being privatizing, and don't you think that corporations would like to influence the laws to get people in jail for nonviolent crimes and keep them there longer for profitconfused Are corporations people?

That is why the independents, the centrists, the moderates decided the election. (Also just swing states because the usa is messed up that way). Because everyone else has their opinion made up, and think that everyone entitled to their opinion as an excuse to being static and not seek out more information.

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4:30 am, Sep 9 2012
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2) I'm female (stay the f_ck away from my vagina)


I was having a depressing day then I read that comment. I actually laughed for the first time in five months. Thank you.

To play the safe route, I admit I'd stick with Obama because I don't think he can do much worse. People elected him because they wanted to see a positive change. Such change did occur. Miniscule but present nonetheless.

I do agree that Obama does give flowery speeches, but I think he's well aware of that fact. (how can he not with all the flames) However, it's not good for someone in that position to openly acknowledge their short comings. Presidents are more symbolic nowadays. In today's society there's hardly a "Mr. President" protocol. Anyone can become a public troll. A good few have it stuck in their heads that the title president is equivalent to a king, but that's simply not the case and the system was set up so a king can be avoided.

Either way, there's going to be a group of unhappy fellows. In the people's eyes there's going to be a rich mook eating in front of starving kids or that dog petting guy who watches as the value of a dollar drops.

I have some level of respect for the both of them as individuals but I have little to no respect for some voters. What happened to nationalism? Or at least the willingness to do what's right for those that you share the same patch of land with?

I really wished no one would open this can of worms, but this is a better place than most. As a manga site, the people here tend to be more open-minded.

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I just finished a project which dealt with me comparing the presidents, but without expressing my own feelings on it. Here's why I wouldn't vote for Romney:

1) Abortion could become illegal. People get raped. They shouldn't have to give birth to a child that came from rape. Especially in cases of incest.
2) He could cut Plan Parenthood. Everyone complains about shows like 16 & Pregnant --if Romney's elected, being 16 and pregnant will be a norm.
3) He would stop Medicaid (if I remember correctly.) I'm in foster care and I've got 2 more years until I age out of the system. Medicaid is our medical insurance. We depend on it.
4) He doesn't support gay marriage. I'm not a gay myself, but I believe that if gays want to get married let them. A same sex couple being married is no different than a man and a woman being married.

Maybe Obama isn't the best, but he's a helluva lot better than Romney.

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Post #569326 - Reply to (#569322) by CynicallyOp
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Quote from CynicallyOp
I was having a depressing day then I read that comment. I actually laughed for the first time in five months. Thank you.

To play the safe route, I admit I'd stick with Obama because I don't think he can do much worse. People elected him because they wanted to see a positive change. Such change di ...


Lol your welcome xD and I hope you feel better smile
But back on topic, America is still in a fragile and unstable state, things haven't changed all that much while Obama has been president but he is taking care of 8 years worth of crap and a congress that rejects ever little thing he tries to do. Obama will give us change but he needs a congress that will help him make the change. And I have to agree that Obama would be a much safer bet because we know what to expect of him. Plus, I honestly HONESTLY have no idea what Romney is promising or even his views because he flip-flops so much. none what I know for a fact is that he wants to deport me, he wants to control my female reproductive system, and he will not support marriage between homosexuals.
At this point I am much more interested in social issues than the actual economy because I feel like that is something that the people have to fix on their own. Congress takes so much time to decide what policies are good and by the time they are set in motion the circumstances would have already changed. I'm just hoping Obama wins because I simply just don't like what Romney would do about social issues.

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Post #569330 - Reply to (#569187) by silencecomes
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5:28 am, Sep 9 2012
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Pardon my language but what the fuck is it that you do!?


Work.

Get a job, kid. One that doesn't involve a cash-register and a fake smile.

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Sigh. It's at these times i realize the disparity between Portugal and the rest of the western world... Most people here consider middle class to be when you can get more than 1000 € a month....


But isn't that just a difference in currency? I mean, if I was to compare my wages number for number with someone in Japan, it'd be $1000+ VS ¥100000+, right?

Right.

I'd lose everytime, no? In short, if your currency allows you to live well on 1000 € a month in comparison to $1000 a week...

Or am I wrong? No, I'm not being sarcastic; please correct me.

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Post #569332 - Reply to (#569313) by ponbiki
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5:36 am, Sep 9 2012
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Quote from ponbiki
I like Romney because he is the only republican I have ever seen be honest and publicly state he doesn't give a sh*t about poor people.

I also like that he can't or doesn't bother to remember peoples names when he talks to them—everyone is beneath him anyways, why bother wasting the time or effort?

insulting all of London on his trip over there and having everyone in that country imply that he is devoid of any class, just puts icing on the cake—really... who cares about London these days anyways?

I really think it would be interesting to see him destroy the middle class, and I can't wait to see what other crazy things he would do, both foreign and domestic, once in office.

Obama, if re-elected, will likely just give a bunch of well-crafted, somewhat entertaining speeches—I demand a bit more entertainment from my President than just speeches though...

gee thanks for treating those suffering in this country like your personal jersey shore. kthxbai.


in the end, it's all about the affordable healthcare act for me. i could have avoided ruining my leg since i was too terrified to go to the ER with second degree burns without insurance if only it had been implemented earlier. now i have healthcare should such a mishap happen again. really, screw those that want to take that away from me.

also, i don't need white christian men telling me what i can and can't do with my body.

if the republicans' aim with their heinous platform was to scare people into voting for obama out of self-preservation, they've succeeded. voting obama.

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I'm just hoping Obama wins because I simply just don't like what Romney would do about social issues.


Have to agree with that one. All the progress we built socially could be squashed. I say could because people are a lot more open nowadays and cutting back on certain rights wouldn't be wise.

I think both are pretty wish-washy, but like I said, I have a level of respect toward Romney and Obama because I can take them seriously....or at least take the people's opinions concerned these two seriously.

I sometimes like to think of it as entertaining but politics rarely are when you consider the effects.

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Why do you Americans have to smother every forum in site with your creepy political sh*tstorms right now?

Because it was likely some callow Kos Kid that posted this crap I'll post some honest flamebait:
I'd vote Romney because I'm not a credulous fool; but then again I'm a Canadian who isn't part of the current American war by the minority American secularists against the majority traditionalists.

I myself voted NDP (left-progressive) here in Canada, and lean to the left on most issues (besides abortion) and I also happen to think the American Democratic Party are probably the most evil party ever formed in North America.

If anybody ever feels like reading about who the defenders of slavery, Jim Crow laws, the KKK, eugenics, scientific and academic racism were, it was always almost exclusively the Democrats. In the 70's they changed tack. They wooed racebaiters and folksy exploiters to utterly destroy black culture and families, and keep people of African descent dependent on the state.
In the meantime they partnered with notorious racist and eugenicist Margaret Sanger's Planned Parenthood, and set up abortuary's in mostly black neighborhood's. This deliberate holocaust has helped insure that millions upon millions of black Americans disappeared due to pre and occasionally post-postpartum infanticide, Himmler would be green with jealousy.

In regards to Barack Obama, he never was an African-American in the sense of someone who has come from American black culture (like Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman or James L. Farmer for example), he was the mixed race son of a white researcher and a Kenyan economist and the perfect token to stem the bleed off of Blacks from the party over the last five years. A first term politician and a total neophyte he was propped up by the Democrat controlled American press and portrayed as a new messiah, while old racists like Gephardt and former KKK'er Byrd stood by and smiled crocodile grins.
I hate the Party of Racebaiting, Abortion, Eugenics, Elitism (no not elites, that's a different thing) and slimey profiteer of your culture wars, my mind won't change, so if I was a Yank I'd hold my nose and vote for the Stupid Party instead.

A Party of Idiots and a Party of Death, what a great choice you have. dead

movingstone
Post #569338 - Reply to (#569334) by philip72
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Quote from philip72
If anybody ever feels like reading about who the defenders of slavery, Jim Crow laws, the KKK, eugenics, scientific and academic racism were, it was always almost exclusively the Democrats. In the 70's they changed tack.


First off, you sound illogical in a sense that you are annoyed by the creepy American political posts and then read this post and contributing in it. Be one or another and start make sense to your self.

Second, the current Republican party isn't the same party of Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, or of Eisenhower. If they were any of those people, I would vote for them in a heartbeat. The dynamic of usa political party changed over time just as the base of their voters. The southern religious white who were mostly Democrats turned Republicans now. And white identified as racists are most no longer affiliate themselves with the democrats but the republicans. Edit: I'm not saying Republicans are racists. But I'm saying white racists identify with the GOP, just as if there is black racists, they would identified with the democrats.

Thirdly, why does his race matter? Republicans stressed his race the most over the past 3 years. Everytime, they pronounced Hussein in a disgusting voice and then they turned around and say "see there is a black man in a white house which meant racism doesn't exist anymore." And how often, do they mistake Osama and Obama. I don't like to get into race thing because people are more emotional rather than rational about topics like this. But I just want to point that out.

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Not that I have a say in the matter, but if I did, I'd vote Obama, simply because Romney would deny some of my very good friends the right to marry the person they love. I understand that it is against his religion, I am also a Christian, but religion should have absolutely no place in politics, especially not in a multicultural and multifaith nation. It is disrespectful to other's and he wouldn't like it if the tables were turned. Besides, as a Christian, I find nothing more beautiful that the love two people can share with each other. Knowing personally several homosexuals I can see absolutely no difference at all in the way in which they form relationships, and frankly, with a 50% divorce rate and a growing culture of short-term celebrity marriages, not to mention Las Vegas marrying inebriated people unable to fully comprehend the weight of their decision (not that I think every Vegas marriage is spontaneous, I also have friends who have married there intentionally), the sanctity of marriage as an eternal bond of love between a man and woman has already been destroyed. I can't see how allowing homosexual partners their rights could possibly do anything worse, and it might actually show the heterosexuals how it should be done.

For the record, my country, Britain, doesn't have homosexual marriage either, but we do have civil partnerships, which give couples the exact same rights as a hetersexual couple in legal terms, and I fully support the movement of legalising homosexual marriage in the UK as well. If a religious body disagrees, they the simple shouldn't marry the couple they disagree with, but religion should have nothing to do with state. To this effect, I have absolutely no idea what religion any of the leaders of the 3 main British parties are, I never heard it come up in election debates, and frankly I don't really care either. It isn't about their religious beliefs, it's about how well they can run my country and you can't include religion in that without discriminating against others who do not share that religion.

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Or am I wrong?

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i strongly dislike obama so i'm for romney.. none but i don't really care cuz i don't live in the U.S

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But isn't that just a difference in currency? I mean, if I was to compare my wages number for number with someone in Japan, it'd be $1000+ VS ¥100000+, right?

Right.

I'd lose everytime, no? In short, if your currency allows you to live well on 1000 € a month in comparison to $1000 a week...

Or am I wrong? No, I'm not being sarcastic; please correct me.

You can't live well on €1000 a month; you can pretty much just get by on that, and that is if you don't spend money on "unnecessary" things like petrol (around here the price for petrol is approaching €1,90 per liter, which is absolute madness if I may add) and keep a close watch on your money in general.



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