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7:00 pm, Mar 23 2013
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I wouldn't care. Of course we are determined by gender, but we don't only consist of it. There are other things to a human being. So for me it would depend on if I like the actual person. I Don't care about the gender. It would be a little hard to deal with anyways, since you don't meet people like that everyday, but everyone can do as they like anyways.

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Post #592123 - Reply to (#592083) by -shiratori-
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While I agree with you that both lower class men and women had it rough in the past thanks to the elite men, one cannot overlook the fact that women even now are more likely to be protected/provided for due to society in general deeming them more valuable by virtue of having a limited amount of eggs within a lifetime (compare for example the number of homeless men with homeless women).

When one looks at the social/legal protections and privileges women benefit from compared with the misandry men face today in the west/westernized world (which is a big issue given the high societal stakes), one could also conclude that since a majority of women (upper 80%) are allied with the high-status men (top 20% who created "Big Daddy" Government as the ultimate provider that saves women from the consequences of their actions) in oppressing the lower-status male "proletariat" (lower 80%) who maintain / defend / build / innovate for civilisation, that the upper 80% of women are effectively part of the new exploitative class.

http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/i-cruised-okcupid-and-c raiglist-for-dates-so-i-could-eat

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Post #592125 - Reply to (#592116) by Damnedman
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In the case of China and India their rapid westernization and unbalanced sex ratio means that men will remain disposable long after women have gained equal rights to men.

In islam dominated countries, I agree that women there have no rights though the unbalanced sex ratio resulting from sex-based abortion together with the cultural polygamy has caused the unmarried men there to immigrate to western countries, which leads to another whole set of problematic issues if the reports are to be believed.

Back on Topic - I do not believe sexual preference would change upon an individual changing sex, I am merely looking at the reality of both sexes from a social/legal point of view in todays world.

Guy-Girls and Girl-Guys retaining their sexual preferences and becoming homosexual or celibate, would actually help Guy-Girls and Girl-Guys adapt quicker in some ways though I still maintain that Girl-Guys would have it tougher if the case of Norah Vincent is any indication.

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In her case, she was seeking relationships with women and despairing upon the fact that it was so much harder as a male to maintain a relationship than it is for a female. So no, I don't think her case is any indication it would be harder for girls to adjust to being a guy, since relationships are a non-issue if people will retain their sexual preference.

The biggest problem I have with your analysis is that you seem to focus on romantic relationships as being a core part of life and ignore the other social issues that comes from being a woman. Business, for example, is a largely male dominated field. Most of the higher ups are male, and many are discriminant against women holding the same amount of power. For developed countries, careers are becoming more and more important to the life of both sexes. It is a fact that a women trying to climb the corporate ladder or having a job in a job like engineering will most likely be marginalized. Strangely, the converse is not true; males working in female dominated industries often do just as well or even better. This is even worse in undeveloped countries, since women are often forced into a certain role and trying to pursue a career is laughable at best.

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I'm I the only one who read the question and thought If I was a guy and woke up a girl tomorrow or if I was a girl and woke up a guy tomorrow how what would be the new things I would have to adapt to on an everyday life level. You know the type of stuff usually covered in manga of these types.

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Post #592180 - Reply to (#592123) by Juuza
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HA, HAHA

protected? that's rich. even if that were true, it's sad that our only value in society is the eggs we carry in ourselves. no, don't worry, it doesn't matter that i might not want to have children, thanks. thanks guys.

people hate welfare, but also hate abortion and hate women who don't wish to have children and pursue a career instead. -_- oh no! men have to compete with other guys! i feel so sorry for you ;_;

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if we're talking about manga situations in which WIZARDRY happens and suddenly gender swap, then i voted guy would probably have a harder time. ain't easy being female.

however, in a rl situation, both genders would have an equally difficult time.

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Obviously, girl turning into guy. There's a good chance that your clothes will now be too small (Naked trip to the mall is no fun... unless you find that sort of thing fun), and even if they aren't, you'll have to make it to the clothes shop as a man in lady's clothes.

Guys turning into girls are more likely to have clothes that are too large, which are at least still wearable, and wearing a girl wearing men's clothing is socially acceptable.

After that the big problems are all issues of getting people to believe you are you and not crazy, which both gender switches would have to deal with.

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That's why we have the internet. laugh Just order your clothes online. You can even have it shipped the next day if you needed badly.

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I voted Girl to guy because a Girly guy had it harder in life than a Tomboyish Girl. If a girl were to act like a girl while having a guy's body, even in this age, she might get beaten to death, in the other hand that is less likely to happen to a "Tomboyish" girl, since some people just prefer that kind of girl. Even tough homophobic induced violence is less likely to happen in our times it is still possible and a girl in a guy's body might end up a victim of it more often than the other way around.

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That's why we have the internet. laugh Just order your clothes online. You can even have it shipped the next day if you needed badly.

Just hope you don't need to go anywhere... and you live alone...

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Quote from BlackOrion
I voted Girl to guy because a Girly guy had it harder in life than a Tomboyish Girl. If a girl were to act like a girl while having a guy's body, even in this age, she might get beaten to death, in the other hand that is less likely to happen to a "Tomboyish" girl, since some people just prefer that kind of girl. Even tough homophobic induced violence is less likely to happen in our times it is still possible and a girl in a guy's body might end up a victim of it more often than the other way around..


Good point. I can see this happening. And even if she's acting on natural impulses and emotions she'll (in a man's body) be marked feminine and homosexual, which could easily lead to violence from other men!

I think in a nutshell, GUYS turning to GIRLS would have many personal problems, where GIRLS turning into GUYS would have many societal problems. Depending on the circumstances it can either really suck or really not be an issue. I think the real question is what environment will the gender-crossed person be dealing with?

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Who says one is harder than the other?

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I don't think it'd be hard for either. Coping with the change would likely occur quickly, but I imagine the sexual preferences would stay the same. All I know is that it'd be weird to masturbate. laugh

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Ohhhh, I thought the poll was asking "if a guy/girl tried to pretend to be the other gender, which would be harder." Lolll. Was totally thinking that a girl would have to bind her chest and stuff but a guy just needs to cover up more, probably. Haha.

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