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Hespia Klarerin
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All the previous Hokage were connected to another through
1) blood
2) teacher-student relationship

This narrows down the candidate for the Hokage a lot, so much so that maybe we can even guess the identity of the sixth and maybe even seventh Hokage.

Naruto He's the son of the forth hokage and student of kakashi, who was the student of forth.
- also future contenders are the decedents of naruto and students of naruto

Sakura Student of kakashi and student of the fifth
- also future decedents/students

Sasuke Student of Kakashi and student of Orochimaru, who was the student of the third. However his chances are greatly compromised because of his betrayal, but this might not prevent his decendent/student from becoming a hokage
- also future decedents/student

[Kakashi] He's the student of the forth, no other students of the forth survives at current time
-also future decedents/students

[Shizune] student of fifth
-also future decedents/students

[Kurenai Yūhi's Child] the grandson of the third
- also future decedents/students

[Konohamaru Sarutobi] for being the grandson of the third, also his unknown parents and siblings
- also future decedents/students

[Choji] student of Azuma, the son of third
- also future decedents/students

[Shikimaru]student of Azuma, the son of third
- also future decedents/students

[Ino]student of Azuma, the son of third, student of the fifth?
- also future decedents/students

[Anko] for being student of orochimaru, who was student of third. I thought about adding Kabuto, but he's a traitor and his chances of reproducing/having students are slim, unlike anko.
- also future decedents/students

[Homura Mitokado] student of the third
- also future decedents/students

[Koharu Utatane] student of the third
- also future decedents/students

[unknown members of team Jiraiya (beside forth)] and their decedents/students

[unknown extended family member of fifth, tracing back to the first] and their decedents/students

interestingly, Danzo isn't related to any known hokage by blood or teacher student relationship. but if he counts, Sai would also be 'related,' as well as other ANBU members that had close relationship with him. (surprise suprise, kabuto was dangerously close to being a hokage....)





well, that's all i can think of. are there other people that's related to any hokage through blood or student-teacher relationship??

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Naruto has more connections.
He is the son of the 4th
He is the student of Jiraya who the student of the 3rd
He is the student of Kakashi who is the student of the 4th

The first hokage's wife is an Uzamaki so there is a possibility one of their decendents is his ancestor. Maybe the first hokage only had one son and the rest are daughters who probably got married back into the Uzamaki klan.
Another possibility is the 2nd if he was married probably has only daughters and one probaly got married into the Uzamaki klan.

I am saying this because it seems Tsunade is the last remaining Senjuu and Naruto might have Senjuu blood in him because of what Tobi said he sees the will of Senjuu in Naruto.

Also Danzo and the 3rd have a student-teacher connection to the 2nd.

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I'm pretty sure the inheritance line for Hokage at the moment goes: Kakashi (since he was going to be made Hokage during the Danzo thing, Naruto (for obvious reasons) and then I would guess Shikamaru.

We know Naruto is going to be the 6th, it is kind of obvious by now. I would suspect that Konohamaru will be the 7th if nothing happens to Naruto or the 8th if something does.

I think going down to this person was the student of this person who was the student of a Hokage is stretching it a bit much. So far all the Hokage have been related (only the second to the first) or taught during their genin rank by the person who is or will become Hokage. I think that can rule out everyone form the current ninja generation leaving only Naruto who is the 99% (1% for trolling) choice as the next Hokage.

After that it would go Konohamaru because he is technically a student of Naruto unless Naruto dies young (like at the end of the manga) then based on how they decided to select Kakashi as a suitable replacement and the high regard everyone has for him, it would be Shikamaru.

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I personally think that Naruto will never become a Hokage.
He's already a hero of sorts to all the shinobi countries anyway.

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Are you sure the writer is going to end it without Naruto becoming Hokage? Naruto's dream is to become Hokage and right now he is the strongest in the village plus he is acknowledged by everyone which is essential for becoming Hokage. It also seems Tsunade also has some favoritism for Naruto and knowing how Tsunade is even if the elders disagree with her she would rebel against them and name him her sucessor. Konohamaru becoming a future hokage right now is kind of stretching it. There are too many likely candidates over Konhamaru but nearly none over Naruto.

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well naruto can end up following jiraya's path. traveling peacefully not being involved in the whole politics business cuz he dunt wanna deal with it, refusing the hokage status...

if you think about it on diplomatic, long term point of view, shikamaru have better ability to govern people. naruto is strong, but not a good politician.

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If I am not mistaken the the writer is already paving the way for Shikamaru to suceed his father in this war. Also the main reason Jiraya refused becoming hokage is becase he felt it was more important to track Orochimaru's and the Akasuki's movements for the safety of the village. Eventhough he took Naruto along he kept him mostly in the dark on what he was really doing.

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Danzo was a student of the second, as was the third. They were from the two clans that first joined Konoha after the Uchiha and Senju.

Danzo was with an Uchiha and an Akimichi that I have forgotten the names of with the second hokage, while Hiruzen was with the two old advisers that are always badgering Tsunade under the first hokage. But the squads seemed to have been more fluid than they are in the present time. Granted, once they become junin, they no longer need to be more than a simple three-man squad.

As for Shikimaru, I thought he was more likely to take on the role his father played, instead of the actual hokage position.

I'd also say that unless Sasuke is truly good now, the most likely scenario in my mind is that Sasuke and Naruto fight to the death, leaving Sakura to become Hokage. I wouldn't be satisfied with the ending, but I would curse the story to the end of my days if Konohamaru ended up taking the position.

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I'm not sure when, but I'm sure Naruto will be Hokage and Konohamaru will follow. Kishi 'joked' about it so many times within the manga and we've been shown that Konohamaru does have quite a lot of promise.

Wasn't Shikamaru hinted to be Naruto's right hand man multiple times as well?

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Quote from kirabook
I'm not sure when, but I'm sure Naruto will be Hokage and Konohamaru will follow. Kishi 'joked' about it so many times within the manga and we've been shown that Konohamaru does have quite a lot of promise.

Wasn't Shikamaru hinted to be Naruto's right hand man multiple times as well?


If Naruto becomes Hokage than I would assume Shikamaru moves into his father's position, but if Naruto dies either fighting sasuke or sometimes after the end of the manga I would think Shikamaru would then become Hokage unless Konohamaru is at the point to succeed him (which I think eventually he will).

Shikamaru is like Kakashi in that he is the safe back up plan if a new Hokage is ever needed in an emergency situation. His name might always come up at meetings to choose the next one, but that might be it depending on the status of Naruto and Konohamaru.


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By strength and skill standards, Shikimaru is severely lacking. He may be a tactical genius, but that was never the qualifying factor for the position of hokage.

The reason the geneology is the way it has been is because strength breeds strength. The first and second trained the third, the third trained Jiraya and the fifth, and Jiraya trained the fourth and naruto. It can be assumed that the first also had influence over Tsunade's early development, since apparently he was alive long enough to know her.

Shikimaru has influence and genetics from his father, but he has no real connection to the "Hokage Training Line" since Asuma was estranged from his father. And like Asuma said, Shikimaru is the knight. He has no business vying for the top slot.

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You don't need skill to become a tactitian. Shikamaru is not fit to be hokage but more than fit to fulfill his father's position.

Danzo definitely had connections. Not only was he basically the rival of the 3rd hokage, he was also the student of the 2nd hokage.

I personally believe that Naruto will NOT become the hokage. He will probably be offered the position and I bet he will turn it down and like Hespia says, he will follow jiraya's footsteps in order to find true peace in the world. A hilarious spin off that will cause pretty much 95% of naruto fans to despise naruto for life would be if sasuke became hokage because he saved naruto's and pretty much everyone's lives by beating madara/obito. I'd actually find it really funny if that happened.

Also try not to judge me for this, but I truly believe kakashi is absolutely useless. He can't match anyone in anything. Pretty much 5 minutes use of mangekyou causes complete fatigue. His kamui is decent but slow enough for many to escape it as well as having a huge toll on kakashi (aka too much risk for too little gain). the only reason he's still relevant right now is because he has to face obito. He has no talent to become the hokage and don't believe that he deserves it either.

And another funny spin off, is it possible for orochimaru to become hokage? He's technically helping out their cause and maybe gain enough popularity? It's a pretty huge stretch though.

Though the next possible canditates are (that have any chance at all, not based on opinion but popular belief) : Naruto, Kakashi, Shikamaru.
People I believe can also be placed on the list: Sasuke, Orochimaru, Gai(Guy), a person we do not know yet(kurenai's child), other genin from regular naruto, etc.

Oh and YAMATO. he may have been captured but because he's technically born from the first hokage(i think) he may have a chance at becoming hokage. He certainly has the skills for it, both intellegence gathering and combat.

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Hespia Klarerin
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how about Kurenai Yūhi's Child?
maybe the best 7th hokage (or eight...) is the one we don't know much about

and at the end of naruto, the author randomly put in another chapter of and 50 years later, and we go "omg...is that...is that who i think it is..."

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You don't need skill to become a tactitian. Shikamaru is not fit to be hokage but more than fit to fulfill his father's position.

Danzo definitely had connections. Not only was he basically the rival of the 3rd hokage, he was also the student of the 2nd hokage.

I personally believe that Naruto wi ...


Kakashi and Shikamaru are like the back up plans that are always there if needed. They are not the strongest in terms of Chakra but they have everything else. They would never be the first choice, but they are like the safety net in place until someone better suited comes along (like a regent of sorts)

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I have a sinking feeling that the villages aren't going to be separated again after the war (because they've learned to cooperate and be friends)... leaving perhaps one kage to rule all five villages or a small council to control them all, or perhaps a combination of both.

Naruto may not become Hokage for this reason as well, though he could become the next Sage of the Six Paths and control all five. They've been aiming everything toward Naruto becoming the next Sage for a while... at least since Pain died.

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