The day scanlator entitlement reaches a level where they have to wrap a mangaka's work in elaborate DRM in order to get their ego fix is a day when we should all pack up and move on to a different medium because nobody will be doing it for the love of manga anymore.

Many mangaka (and content creators in any medium) consider illegal reproduction of their creation to be disrespectful as well. Why are scanlators more important than the people who make the medium we consume?

^ Could you please stop talking about scanlators' ethics on a scanlation site?

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I would say that it's not like scanlation groups thinks of it as "their work", I think their point when they shut it all down because of these online readers is that since they do it for fans who cannot read chinese/korean/japanese and when online readers actually start making money from it... that crosses all the borders...

First, it's like online readers are stealing money from the authors of these manga, and second - they kind of use the scanlation groups for it, and thus involve them in something that is not their intention. That's why I completely understand if this discourages scanlation groups from continuing their work.

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sad news.
go to hell mangafox

A site about scanlation is best suited to a discussion of it's ethics, is it not?
Not to mention it's specifically on topic as the news post and Sura's Place cites Mangafox hosting releases, which is my main discussion point, and I haven't been particularly rude with how I've been making my posts.

T^T the news kind of saddens me, I've been reading many of her scanlation Thankyou for scanlating all of those manhwa I may have read (and may not read), I'm very grateful for that Hope you have a better life! (sounds like someone just die or went so far away -_-)

Then how about making a new topic or discussing it in other thread? I completly agree with scanlator's wishes and yes, I don't agree with a single point of yours in this thread. We all know about scanlations, but this thread is NOT about scanlation ethics. Please discuss this stuffs in other threads.

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I just draw issue with the fact that 'online readers stealing from scanlators' is the far more prevalent line as opposed to 'online readers stealing from the mangaka', when really, the latter is the only one that is true, and that's why I've commented on it.
And, in my opinion, if scanlation groups aren't prepared to have their work used by online readers, they should really take a look at themselves and the fact they were perfectly willing to use the mangaka's original work for their own purposes themselves.

I thought Sura's a woman? Oh, I see that's been sorted.

Regardless, this is very sad news indeed!
I'm not big on manwha, but I've always had much respect for
Sura and have read a number of the series she's worked on.
I'm grateful for her contributions and wish her all the best.


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Sad to see you Sura.
thanx for opening my eyes to manhwa with "Hot blooded woman".
You will be missed, success with your further endeavours.

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My feelings exactly.

You missed one.

The saddest thing...

I was introduced to the world of manga at about the same time as her group started and because of people like her I decided to contribute with the scanlation community by becoming one myself, so I know what she must feel like when sites like MangaFox makes use of the time and effort the scanlator dedicates to bring all those beautiful stories we all like so much to the language of our choosing and then profit out of it.

I mean, have you worked on a Scanlation Group before? The standards of quality nowadays are most of the time even higher than the English Publishers have, why? because they love manga.

Granted, we take the product off of the mangaka and then work on it, but we don't profit from our work, we just want other people to enjoy the stories we love so much but can't because they can't read kanji.

Granted, we have our own ego and we like it to be stroked from time to time, but that's all we ask.. to see you people smiling and maybe read a word of thanks or chat about what you like of the manga we love, etc.

But well.. I have to stop ranting and say that, it's a really sad thing Sura's place is closing, I have personally read quite a lot of your projects and it's maddening to see you go like this.

Although I'm pretty sure you won't stop completely or maybe that is just a wish from my part, please don't let those ppl strand you away from manga.

I don't know if you will ever read this but,

Love your work, best of wishes.

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