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8:23 am, Oct 19 2013
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I wish I could select more than one...

Speed scanlations can rot in hell ;D also bad translators and those who think they can translate because they've been learning Japanese for a month... or they can read the alphabet... or the best part because everyone else is delusional and thinks the translator is awesome because they pump out 231219 scripts a week but it's actually just all BS...

//hate//

Oh I picked those people making money off scanlations. I mean sure asking for donations for manga is fine, but spending it on your xbox? PC biggrin?? f no

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8:47 am, Oct 19 2013
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One thing that most pisses me off is what I like to call "the anime bubble." It's when a scanlator decides to pick up a new manga or a manga that hasn't been scanlated for awhile because the anime is currently being released. and then, when the anime is done, and the series's 15 minutes of fame is up, they suddenly drop it whether it was even close to finish or not. Sometimes having jumps in scanlations (something that also pisses me off going from chapter 5 to chapter 20 with the rest not scanlated) because "the other chapters were covered in the anime."

I love when multiple scanlators do the same series. This way you're sure the manga can get scanlated. I wish it happened more often than just the big 3.

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10:04 am, Oct 19 2013
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Man, all of these annoy the hell out of me but in this order.
1. When you start a series and then find out: Last Release (1000d ago). Completely Scanlated: No
I usually wait until it's completely scanlated but there are some manga that I just have to start reading and hope that some group will pick them up again.
2. When scanlation stops due to a Cease & Desist
Can't be helped but man, so annoying!!!
3. People making money off scanlations
Yeah, just kill the scanlation community won't you? It's like making something grey all the way black.
4. When a good series stops being scanlated because the group closed
5. When a good series stops being scanlated because it's not popular
6. When a group has too many projects and releases are slow for the series you read
7. People who ask: "When will the next chapter be released?"
8. When multiple groups scanlate the same series
9. Speed scanlations

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10:42 am, Oct 19 2013
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How about when readers feel so entitled to the release that they start to harass the scanlators? I vote for [People who ask: "When will the next chapter be released?"]

But seriously though to address the choices:

[When multiple groups scanlate the same series]
Seriously dude, people scanlate what they want to scanlate. Just because one group has done it doesn't mean that group has the exclusive rights to it. Let them do it, it's no skin off your back.

[When a group has too many projects and releases are slow for the series you read]
Again, people scanlate what they want to scanlate. They want to work on 10 projects? They will work on 10 projects. People have different methods and ways of working. Sometimes just working on 5 projects get boring. And guess what, scanlators do it for fun. If it's not fun anymore, they can quit.

[When a good series stops being scanlated because it's not popular]
This is kinda the opposite spectrum. I think this can be pegged to 'lack of manpower' as in nobody's really interested in doing it. A lot of you have been moaning about maximizing the manpower and not work on the same project with other groups. Can you blame them for focusing their manpower on the popular projects? Make more people happy and all that?

[When a good series stops being scanlated because the group closed]
Shit happens. Life happens. If it's really that great of a series, other groups will pick it up. Sometimes a group closes because it's not rewarding. If you think about the amount of work they put into it and the amount of appreciation they get for it (hint: it's not equal) I can understand why scanlators want to call it quits.

[When you start a series and then find out: Last Release (1000d ago). Completely Scanlated: No]
-points upwards-

[People who ask: "When will the next chapter be released?"]
Look, I totally get that you're DYING to know what happens next. But just in case you don't know, scanlators don't owe you anything. They have real life too. Hobbies stop being hobbies when they get demanding.

[Speed scanlations]
Is this a term for 1 hour scanlation with sloppy translation and editing? Well, it's there because people get so impatient about the next chapter, isn't it? You demand, they provide. Why the complaint? You get to choose two from FAST, GOOD, or CHEAP. Since cheap is non negotiable because it's FREE, then choose between fast or good. Speed Scanlation is obviously the fast one.

[People making money off scanlations]
Every group is different for this, but I do agree that this is basically making money from other people's copyright.

Groups that ask for donations are different though. Donations are for people to show their appreciation, it's not a charge. Donations are for people who acknowledges that there are people who use their resources to make the scanlation available for free, and they appreciate that.

And there you have it. Just got to get that off my chest.

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12:17 pm, Oct 19 2013
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When scanlation stops due to a Cease & Desist - and subsequent license stops right where the scanlation ended.

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12:21 pm, Oct 19 2013
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[Whoops, not a direct answer to the person above, just pressed the wrong button]

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12:34 pm, Oct 19 2013
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Heh heh, I've been guilty of picking up "too many" projects. Like someone said, it gets boring and lonely as hell for a translator like me to only work on one series. My mind keeps doing somersaults; I need to feed it, feed it, feed it.

I don't mind people asking when the next release will be, but I hate it when they email me personally to tell me that I promised to release something and didn't. (Stuff happens, people. For me, especially, LOTS of stuff happens.)

I guess what pisses me off the most would be people making money off of scanlations. That's just plain dirty. no

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12:52 pm, Oct 19 2013
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Option 5 so much. I can stand it when a series hasn't had an update for a year (looking at you ID), but when a series hasn't had a new scanlation release in the last 2 years, you can pretty much bet that it won't get another release ever again.

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2:08 pm, Oct 19 2013
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Why? I don't understand.
If you don't like something that isn't perfect then don't read it.

Btw, most of those have popped up because the readers that were too impatient created the need for them so if anything blame the them instead.

And what if a person is a bad translator, why can't he/she use the opportunity to improve by scanlating, what is the harm? He/she might become good in the process and contribute to make those perfect scanlations in the future.

The only instance when I don't like them is when they take on the same project as a HQ group and makes them loose interest in that manga.

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2:46 pm, Oct 19 2013
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It's just so sad when you start a series, fall in love with it, then find out that there hasn't been a new scanlation in forever! Or, likewise, that you find a new series that you want to read, but there's only a few chapters released and there hasn't been a new release in circa 1000 days. Very saddening.

It's also horrifying when an awesome series is canceled because of a group closing. TT~TT

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2:55 pm, Oct 19 2013
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As an ex-scanlator, definitely getting bombarded with wanting to know when the next chapter of something may be released. You go a couple days later than when a chapter may usually be released and you get flooded. If it's pushing a month or two then I can understand.

As a reader, definitely picking up a series and seeing either 2 years since last release or a release every 2-3 months when all the volumes are out.




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3:06 pm, Oct 19 2013
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What piss me off the most:

- When you start a series and then find out: Last Release (1000d ago). Completely Scanlated: No

- Speed scanlations

- When a good series stops being scanlated because the group closed

I can't decide which one irritates me the most. But right now I'm being tortured by:
- Suki Desu Suzuki-kun!!
- Suki tte ii na yo

I don't know when the chapters are going to be released, in Suki Desu Suzuki-kun!!'s case, the manga is already complete as well as [m]Chitose etc[/m], even if they dont catch as much attention as others do, I don't care, I like them. Even when people criticize [m]Chitose etc[/m] I haven't read it, but I will cause I really like YOSHIZUMI Wataru works. Like recently she is working on Marmalade Boy Little which made me so happy. I totally fell in love with her art and her stories.


Kiss kara Hajimaru this was one of my first, but at that time I didn't know it wasn't complete

Only You - Tobenai Tsubasa has so much potential, but nobody would pick it up. It only got 8 volumes and it's complete.

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3:26 pm, Oct 19 2013
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Again another poll that I want multi-choice but I chose
When a group has too many projects and releases are slow for the series you read
because it annoys me the most since there is this strange consensus on scanlating that if one group scans, another can't. There are special cases of course but it depends on the scanlator groups.
I hate this one group that has over 100 projects ACTIVE and they still take on new ones!! Because of that, I've refused to read any new projects by this group. It seems so pointless for them to do that. This is beyond just having slow releases. It's more like NO RELEASES

When multiple groups scanlate the same series
I welcome this. translators do things differently depending on the person so you can get a completely different translation depending on the translator and PR.

When a good series stops being scanlated because it's not popular
This is just a terrible excuse for stopping. I rarely encounter this (once in a blue moon) but what annoys me is when a publisher does this. This actually happened to Tokyopop before they came down. They were publishing this one series I was really into and then they stopped. Idk if it's popularity or w/e but seriously, that annoyed the heck out of me.

When a good series stops being scanlated because the group closed
Unfortunate but here's to hoping another group picks it up! It doesn't piss me off b/c it just might mean that people have their lives to live.

When you start a series and then find out: Last Release (1000d ago). Completely Scanlated: No
it's annoying but it doesn't piss me off unless it's a group like the one I mentioned having over 100 projects. Other than that, it might mean the group is inactive/closed. And because of this possibility, recently I've been more inclined to search for completed mangas to read. Of course there are exceptions such as some of the more popular mangas that are being scanlated today but other than those, I try to go for more completed now.

People who ask: "When will the next chapter be released?"
I hate it when people do that too!! but people who ask are usually noobs and don't know much about the scanlating world and the fact that this is real people who have their own lives doing this in their own "free" time.

Speed scanlations
If it's good quality like the speed scanning of Aizen-sensei who did Choukakou and another series, then I'm good.

When scanlation stops due to a Cease & Desist
Well they cant' do much about it. It sucks but it's better than getting in trouble legally.

People making money off scanlations
one of the most irksome things about aggregate sites like MF and all of NOEZ's sites. But what annoys me more about that is that people remain ignorant of sites like MF and think that they do all of the work.

People who ask for donations....I'm not too sure I like that idea. If you look at Sura's place, sura doesn't ask for donations at all and she buys TWO issues of the magazine that she scans from. She also has been doing this for quite a long time, 1998 is when she started scanlating/founded Janime. I have more appreciation and respect for Sura because of that since she's paying out of pocket but yeah...idk I guess it's a hopeful investment. (hopeful in the sense that you hope the manga you enjoy will be the manga they use the money for)

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3:59 pm, Oct 19 2013
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Needs an "all the above" option.

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4:44 pm, Oct 19 2013
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When multiple groups scanlate the same series.
It's really is stupid, why don't they join project? Or the later group start scanlate other series? The selfishness of human know no bounds mad

It's just wasting time and effort. Except the previous group's work is in bad quality (I'm fine with low quality, though) and the later group pick the series to fix it.

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