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Stop doing that. You'll make them sad. The readers that is.

The readers will either cry, call you a hypocrite, tell you to stop (I told you hentai scanlations is a better community.They only want to fap), flame you etcetc BUT THEY WON'T WORK FOR THEIR TITLE.

It's their right to get the releases for free

We...sorry, I mean scanlators have for years screamed about mangafox and NOEZ and how it should leave bad taste in the readers mouth if they went there....but did it work? No. They couldn't do the easiest thing out of all there.
Now the dude got pocket pirates and pocket ninja and otakushop (saying something about fair use to sell counterfeit products?) and who knows what more out on the net. It a business running illegally in china using free scanlation work. All this is done by using the readers who just want their releases and nothing else.

So expecting them to actually work for their manga releases, lololololololololololol please. I know you aren't that naive.

You know what the best thing about all this is? Only a few percentage of the readers do actually come to mu anymore because of online readers, and much less do check this part of the forum.

This poll was stupid from the beginning. 3 different demographs D:

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Last edited by mubotter2 at 1:13 pm, Mar 6 2016

Um, no disrespect or anything as I myself am studying Japanese as well, but some people just don't have that opportunity. Please don't patronize them for not being able to go and learn Japanese, start their own groups, etc.

It's also very annoying that you call readers selfish pricks. If you view them this way, don't even make a group and release anything. Not to be ungrateful, but scanlators translate and release manga in because they want to share with others but they can't have access to, and readers are in turn grateful for this and support scanlation groups while not being needy/whiny. Obviously this it the ideal relationship, but there ARE people who feel this way.

Some scanlators may view this poll as an insult/disrespect, but truly the majority of people view scanlators in a good light and are grateful to them, but because there lies in fault in everything, we're just taking a poll on how people feel about these faults. Really, if you wanted to you could make a poll about what pisses you off the most about readers, but at the end of the day it's just a poll.

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Last edited by mubotter2 at 1:13 pm, Mar 6 2016

Manga is just a hobby for a lot of people, not something that they can invest tons of time in.

And if you're studying a language at all, you'll know that you can't learn it and become fluent/well-versed just by reading resources off the internet. You need practice by living in the country or having formal instruction.

I am a reader that gets annoyed by the reasons mentioned in this poll, obviously, because I voted on it myself. But that doesn't mean I can't overlook these facts. It's the same thing either way whether you're a scanlator or a reader.

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"If you got time to read manga, there's time to learn Japanese."

This is really unrealistic. It's like telling someone who likes to watch soccer but can't find it on the tube in the USA to go start a team himself (or move to a soccer-playing country). People have jobs and families. They have to give those first priority. These days jobs are getting ever more demanding. There's very, very little time left for fun and personal interests. Someone who lives in this hectic work world and sets out to learn Japanese MIGHT learn it in, say, 5 years if he could stick with it that long, and didn't give up after falling asleep over the kanji in a few months.

Not to mention that most readers of manga (including me), just aren't interested enough in it to take on THAT big a job.

I think most viewers of manga are very often very grateful for a scanlation. I know I am! It's too bad there's not some convenient way, right there on the aggregation sites, to tell them how grateful we are. Maybe Botato could find a way to make that possible.

I disagree, I think if all you want to do is read in that language, self-study is definitely an option. It's a lot of work, sure, but it's not impossible.
And while I don't think people who read scanlations should just learn Japanese, I agree that if they have time to complain about scanlations not being fast or good enough or whatever, they could use that time to learn Japanese. Or learn some manners

I could be wrong, but I think the "then go ahead and learn Japanese reaction" is targeted at people who are annoyed because other people - who invested the time to learn Japanese and make scanlations available- aren't doing things the way they'd like, and in that case, the reaction is justified, imho. No one is saying that everyone should just learn Japanese, just the people who have time to complain or be annoyed.

edit: also, I managed to learn enough Japanese to be able to read manga in about a year. While working full time. It was a lot of work but it was worth it. (Which, again, is not to say everyone should do that, but, well, rather than complaining that no.group was scanlating the manga I wanted to read, I practiced kanji.)

this option: When you start a series and then find out: Last Release (1000d ago). Completely Scanlated: No
its mostly because this other option: When a good series stops being scanlated because it's not popular

hehehe so we got a winner

What makes me really angry is when people say OEL's aren't manga and some north americans just make comics to get money. Webcomics, dojinshi, and OEL's can't be on myanimelist. I hate people censoring others. And people doing shitty translations. And anime being so popular when all i like is manga but that's my problem. Okay thank you.

If we all had the ability, time, and resources to learn Japanese there wouldn't be a need for scanlations in the first place. And if you really hate all that comes with scanlating (the ungrateful readers, etc) then just stop doing it. You can just translate the manga for yourself since you have the ability to, and you won't have to deal with the readers that you hate so much.

What kind of backwards suggestion is that? Basically every scanlator has moments of frustration towards leachers. Specially at times when real life is being a bitch, which results to late releases, which results to angry leachers. Have a little understanding please. Don't just randomly say "quit if you hate it so much" just because it sounded like a good argument. Weigh the gravity of what you are saying first. If every scanlator felt that way and all quits what happens to your little paradise of manga reading? I'm really sorry for venting. But what you said, I really resent it. Coming from someone mooching off of others I RESENT it. Seriously, it's like biting the hand that feeds you, then telling them to stop feeding you. What kind of logic is that?

Anyway, you can help with more ways than just translating. If you're a native english speaker, proofread. Proofreading 1 chapter won't even take you an hour. I'm sure that if you have time reading manga, you surely have time for that. If you know basic photo editing, typeset or clean. A couple of months ago I even saw someone in the recruiting section offering to help moderate a scanlation team's forum. It's really easy to learn the basics too, even if you don't have prior experience in photo editing etc. There are TONS of materials out there that you can learn from. Tutorials, forum threads, video tutorials on youtube. Some scanlation group even offer to TEACH YOU how to. Point is, all it really comes down to is how much you want to help.

Last edited by nakie08 at 12:47 am, Oct 21 2013

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Because those people bring negative publicity to the manga... they rate it low or tell others not to read it just because what they read was LQ release instead of HQ. I hate such baseless criticism for the series I enjoy reading ^^

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