...does it have a good/decent ending? H2's ending absolutely destroyed me and I've stayed away from Adachi ever since. Recently realized I never did try Touch and things I've read indicate it might be better in regards to the romance at least... (i.e. not having most of the romance be practically NTR)

Hmmm, it's safe, or I should say that the MC gets the main heroine. It does have some tragedy in it (like on cross game). There are always those 1 or 2 that try to get the girl but it's clear from the start that it's only MC that she likes...

Adachi is bad at endings. H2, Slow Step (not sure if scanlated) and Rough have especially bad endings as far as I remember. Touch is one of his most complete and solid works, and one of the best. It has romance and the ending doesn't leave you hanging. His longer works are generally better but his pacing often become bad near the end and he can't seem to do a proper closure. Personal preferences aside though, Touch and Cross Game are his best works. I feel be compelled to add Nine to the mix (pun intended), but to be honest I can't really remember the story that well.

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Yeah, I think I read Rough too... definitely not great at endings. Thank though, guys. I started reading it.

Wow, rough has bad ending?? i thought it was one of the best. i always imagined that last scene, it was beautiful, brave, funny, and it was one of the scene which inspired the manga adapted to live action.

Fans has to stop demanding their ideal endings to manga, especially to realis like Adachi sensei.
bitter sweet ending with great scene like ROUGH is always the best.




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People need to stop desiring what they themselves like and instead be satisfied with what you like? Nice.

Who said anything about ideal ending? I never said whether I liked the ending or not. I also never talked about the last scene per se.

What do you mean "realis"? A realist? Adachi is not a realist. I also never said I was a fan. Whether you, me or anyone else liked the ending of Rough or not has nothing to do with the fact that it wasn't especially good ending.

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So it doesn't matter if someone liked the ending, because regardless of who liked it, it was bad? This has been objectively decided, because the quality of literature has nothing to do with opinion whatsoever?

Come on, it's a matter of taste. Adachi chooses to end things at a certain point rather than wrap things up neatly with a bunch of fanservice, and I can see why that's an unpopular decision for people who love his characters and don't want them to just vanish from their lives. I agree that Cross Game has a much better ending than the rest, but I personally find H2 and Rough's endings poignant, and like how they let you fill in the blanks and speculate. I don't mind if you disagree, but don't get offended and say it's not worth a debate.

Well... to me his endings aren't bad or good. They are just how he ends things. But i can kind of understand how he wraps things even if they do end together its a open end because they are too young to have their life wrapped up and i think that's why he end stuff like that... Look at that other manga he made where the girl ended with an old guy it was a weird end BUT it was just the right end for that manga. Somehow... after so many endings the way he end them just feel right because u are kind of expecting them ... once the manga is reaching the end it felt kind of weird when i read the crossgame ending cuz it was kind of good BUT too diferent from the way he wraps things up.

wait it a minute... this is relative to H2 where the guy seems to really love some other girl and never really makes a play for her.

In that sense Touch's ending isn't like that at all. You can rest assured, the girl likes the main character from the beginning and the guy has a self generating inferiority complex(he was naturally good but his brother outpacing him made him actually stop trying).

Even without baseball the girl likes the guy, and unlike some of his other heroine, and similar to Nine, she isn't as into baseball. Not as much as the girl in Nine but this girl doesn't want to make baseball her whole life anyway.

In that sense, Touch is completely safe. The ending for H2 isn't usual for an Adachi ending so feel free to try other stuff.

You're missing the point. Liking something doesn't necessarily mean you think it's good and thinking something is good doesn't mean you like it. No matter how you look at it betman's comment was just immature and lacked any valid argument ignoring whether there was any truth to it. I never said it's not worth a debate—most anything is. But the thing is, up to that point there wasn't any debate to begin with.

The only persons who seem to be offended are betman (indications: the act of surprise to my statement and baseless accusations/assumptions/statements) and you (twisting of words in sarcastic tone).

Again, I never said I didn't like H2 or Rough ending. I was talking about Adachi's skills from a technical(ish) point of view.

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I don't see how H2 or Rough, or any Adachi manga, have "technically unskilled" endings. H2's ending gave every bit of closure that was necessary...they graduated, the romances were wrapped up, the Koshien tournament was finished, not sure what else you'd want it to cover.

Rough's ending fit the story just fine, and matches his general story telling. If you're looking for a "I got the girl, won the championship, live happily ever after" ending, you probably shouldn't be reading Adachi mangas in the first place.

Now, if you want a genuinely bad ending from him, "Q and A" is a complete cop-out.

Do you realise that quotation marks are used for quotations? If the origin of the quote isn't clear then be sure to state where it's from or provide a link.

There is absolutely nothing at all to indicate I'm looking for "a "I got the girl, won the championship, live happily ever after" ending" as you put it.

I can understand why you didn't like Q and A ending. I didn't much care for it myself. It wasn't especially bad though.

I feel like this:

Me: this is an apple *holds an apple*
Baby #1: yellow
Me: apple
Baby #2 poop
Me: apple
Preschooler #1 slightly rotten pomegranate
Me: apple
Baby #3 poop

And so forth... Seriously, how many times do I need to say it? I never said I disliked ending of either Rough of H2. Drop it already.

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Those are "scare quotes".

And I never said you disliked. I don't know why you're harping on that. You sad Adachi was bad at endings, that H2, Slow Step and Rough specifically had bad endings, and that they all showed his lack (?) of technical skill.

H2's ending was everything that the manga itself was leading up to. If you didn't like the manga, that's another thing, but I don't see how the ending was anything except the predicted result. Unless it's a shipping war thing, which is another matter entirely.

Rough, I can certainly see what people hate the lack of clear closure, but it definitely fit into the flow of the story itself. Adachi has never been much about glorifying high-school life or successes, and most of his stories are about lives that happen to involve sports instead of "Sport stories".