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kitty1826x
Post #623420 - Reply to (#623413) by T1
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5:18 pm, Dec 5 2013
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I never said how well it works bigrazz
Hey if your interested you can always read How Google Fights Piracy. I skimmed but I believe in page 13 they stated they relay more on claims of copyright to block those searches. ( Which may be why the reader sites still pop up. Who's claiming the works?)



eek You called me a lair.


Edit: someone pointed out the link is broken. just copy and paste the below on Google. It's the 1st one.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwxyRPFduTN2dVFqYml5UENU eUE/edit

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Post #623423 - Reply to (#623413) by T1
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5:30 pm, Dec 5 2013
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Quote from T1
Lies. Cuz I keep seeing the online readers popping up on my searches when I search for a title on google. It's annoying cuz I'm not looking for where to read it and they keep showing that to me. So how come you don't get those search results while I get spammed by results mangahere, mangareader et ...

Google removes links from searches when DMCA specifies those links.When you search for a manga title, you invariably get a notice that some links aren't shown due to a DMCA complaint. They will not remove the whole online reader, but they will remove links to specific pages on that online reader. So if you get those hits, that means no one has DMCA'ed Google about those specific titles on those specific sites yet.

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imercenary
Post #623425 - Reply to (#623412) by TheQwertiest
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5:34 pm, Dec 5 2013
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They CAN affect secondary websites, but its a bullshit move with no end in sight. You literally cannot defend yourself against DMCA claims because they don't stand and fight. All they do is run away while you bleed out and the public buys into the belief that secondary websites are in the wrong cause the courts never side with them (on account of the fact that no case has ever gone to court).

Its catch-22. Fight it and you'll never win unless you're a billionaire (in which case they won't DMCA you in the first place in fear that you'd actually bring them to court). Or give up (do what they want) and lose by default.

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Post #623426 - Reply to (#623420) by kitty1826x
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5:36 pm, Dec 5 2013
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Exactly. I totally agree with that, it's what they are saying but not doing.

They've known about manga scanlations for a long time. It would be very weird that Viz, Tokyopop, DarkHorse, etcetc never told them to remove those sites from Google searches. If Google did their job, I don't think we would have to see something like this today. Of course don't think that the japanese company are sending anything to Google.

There's only one guy I know of who's actively doing something his stuff ending on the net. His stuff is taken down very fast too. Like 1-2 days after it's up. The rest could do the same. Though it's the big firms in Japan that needs to take this step.

Chrunchyroll should first start with Google and have them remove the titles they are licensing or rather just tell them to remove those sites from the search results. Google got a filter, just use it.

I don't use mangaupdates to find releases as much as the titles. Ordering them from Japan after knowing what they are about or the genres or the cover...well mu helps me sorting that out. So that would be a loss...

...and that is the weird thing about it. Why aren't they removing the whole site when they can see that the link it from that site?
It makes no sense. I'm cutting the branch cuz the tree is rotten....


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cloudsora
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5:52 pm, Dec 5 2013
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Over 50% of the manga translated that's listed on here isn't even licensed why does everything have to suffer for that? Seriously a VERY good portion of manga I've read will never be brought over here and the worst ones are the groups that send DMCA's for manga's they discontinued translating.

I'm learning japanese so I don't have to deal with this anymore but its REALLY slow the writing system is so foreign... although I have most of the spoken down in no time.

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Post #623451 - Reply to (#623429) by cloudsora
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8:22 pm, Dec 5 2013
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So true!!! the things I am thankful for are oneshots, and 1-2 volumes gems that will never be brought to English speaking community, big hits with teenegers like naruto bleach... are not my thing, and we have to suffer because of sites licencing them, so unfair, damn you crunchy s*hit!!!!

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Post #623455 - Reply to (#623429) by cloudsora
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9:05 pm, Dec 5 2013
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Same here. I decided to take it seriously too. The crap with groups taking up 50 projects and then droppeed them all except 2, or the crap with staff problems, or the crap with DMCA....it got enough.

Anyway, what you say is true. We still haven't been told who it is that are sending the DMCA. It can't be the Japanese government, so is it crunchyroll? Someone else? As long as we don't know who it is or what was written we as users of mangaupdates got no chance to come with inputs to admins/mods of this site.

It makes me sad and emo bigrazz


soyokaze
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10:43 pm, Dec 5 2013
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You shall not give in to terrorists.

Goddamn it. Nothing has irritated me this month as much as this situation and the fact that you not only complied just like that, but also informed us post factum about your decision. Please at least publish the DMCA note so that we could take appropriate measures against them.

You are not obliged to take down those links and they know it, that's why they took the "official, scary threat" way - so you would take them down on your own. Why? Because they wouldn't f****ng stand a chance in a court. Besides, they would have to disclose who was the complainant, who will rather pull back than get flamed.

People, get your grip together and don't let anyone abuse you. I have faith in you.

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Post #623461 - Reply to (#623425) by imercenary
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11:05 pm, Dec 5 2013
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I was about to say, "Then let's look into getting the money needed", but then I remembered (besides the fact it'd run most likely on donations, and it's currently the holidays aotm) that in the US these days, you can get a judge to rule in anyones favor as long as you either pay them enough and/or get a biased enough judge.

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12:13 am, Dec 6 2013
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My suggestion is that the admins open a mangaupdates bitcoin wallet for the users to donate to. They can then gauge the amount of bitcoin donations. A few months should be sufficient to decide if bitcoin donations are a viable method of survival without paypal.

Let's try to be understanding guys, the admins can't keep the site running without donations or ads (both dependent on paypal). Give them time to consider options.

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Post #623484 - Reply to (#623460) by soyokaze
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3:10 am, Dec 6 2013
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The terrorist may have more money, but if they using legal threat, then we can fight legally too. The fight need money, open up donation. Many reader here want to help. As for my self, the least I can do is donate. Just take my money and fight.

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4:11 am, Dec 6 2013
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(My opinion)
honestly, to those of you who said they would stop using this website... I call BS on you. Mangaupdates is still more convenient than with or without the download links, and group links. Honestly, you guys are blowing this way out of proportion. You can overreact only when they choose to remove manga release updates, and start charging money all together because that is when they go 'too far'. But for now, not having the links is just first world problems...

Now with all that said, this sucks, now I have to put in effort to type in google to find the group's website. Most are easy to find, but others are harder because their group name has ambigious names that could potentially bring up other websites completely unrelated.

I loved this website because I was able to keep one hand on the mouse and just navigate without the effort to of moving my other hand. biggrin

kirika
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4:36 am, Dec 6 2013
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Time to switch to Batoto.

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