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lkyuri
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2:41 am, Jan 22 2014
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You know, just for a change.

No non-con
No seme/uke stereotypes
No demonizing women
No PWP
No jealousy as plot device
Etc.

I've read Yamashita Tomoko, Konohana Narise, Miyamoto Kano, Yamamoto Kotetsu, Yoneda Kou, and Watarumi Naho. Some of whom only marginally qualify, I know. Sorry if this topic gets posted a lot before.

dalek
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You could try Hidaka Shoko, est em and Yamashita Tomoko? Quite famous though, so maybe you already know them also.

Could also try looking at these threads:
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=39085
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=38558
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=25623
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=25542

Maybe if you say "I want something similar to Y manga and Z manga" it would be better for me, because then I could know what kind of ambience you like (one like Shisei no Otoko or one like Kuimonodokoro Akira).

Also, if you are a little opened to jealousy and demonizing women (it is extremely terrible, but finding a yaoi manga without that is a bit hard...), more titles would appear, maybe? Like Kyuuso wa Cheese no Yume o Miru (but you have probably read that one).

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lkyuri
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Quote from dalek
You could try Hidaka Shoko, est em and Yamashita Tomoko? Quite famous though, so maybe you already know them also.

Could also try looking at these threads:
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=39085
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=38558
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.p ...

I love Yamashita Tomoko (most of the time). Will check out the other two and the thread, thanks!

As for ambiance, I like slice-of-life that are a bit depressing, like Illumination or The End of Youth. But that's not the point, I can enjoy other stuff. Miyamoto Kano does ambiance well but I cringe at the non-con sometimes, for example. Maybe not the pretentious showbiz host-club style, though.

Jealousy is not that bad, I guess, since it's more a sign of bad writing than anything. No demonizing women though, please.

doki-doki-kimochi
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Quote from dalek
You could try Hidaka Shoko, est em and Yamashita Tomoko? Quite famous though, so maybe you already know them also.


Second Hidaka Shoko . Just got into reading some of her works again. I especially liked Yuuutsu na Asa . Hana wa Saku ka has high ratings, but I find it a little difficult to get into for me. However, these two are definitely out of the ordinary "stereotypical" characters/manga you will find in yaoi, and the second one admittedly much so. smile

Edit: Whoops. I think there was a bit of non-con in Yuuutsu na Asa n_n. I still urge you to read it, though.

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Quote from doki-doki-kimochi
Second Hidaka Shoko . Just got into reading some of her works again. I especially liked Yuuutsu na Asa . Hana wa Saku ka has high ratings, but I find it a little difficult to get into for me. However, these two are definitely out of the ordinary "stereotypical" characters/manga you will fi ...

Right, actually now that I checked I did read just those two from Hidaka Shoko. Hana wa Saku ka is all right, but not all that special. Yuuutsu na Asa I have on my Unfinished list -- I vaguely remember being tired of its lazy cliches.

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I asked about ambience to see if you are okay with dark ambience, like in Endless World (drugs etc, but I don't think there is non-con), Akaneshinchi Hanaya Sange (I haven't read this one yet) and Shisei no Otoko (same thing, but I don't think there is non-con).

What do you think of Tango no Otoko? It is quite a different style, but I guess it fits your request?

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7:11 am, Jan 23 2014
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if you don't mind super sweet and heartfelt shounen ai fluff, i highly recommend Hayakawa Nojiko's works. super slice-of-lifey and gorgeoussssss art. im obsessed with her stuff right now D8

i just started 10 Dance and it's really great so far, but it's unfinished ;_;

everyone mentioned hidaka shouko, and although you didn't like yna or hwsk (*sob*) you might be more interested in Hatsukoi no Atosaki. no seme/uke dynamic and lots of ambiguity and angst.

you also might want to look into shoowa's works, although beware since her repertoire ranges from the absurdly zany pwp to stories with much more serious tones and characterizations. maybe Koujitsusei no Tobira or the related Jin to Neko wa Yobu to Konai would be more to your tastes (although the latter does contain one non-con scene).

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4:08 am, Jan 25 2014
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I recommend Slow Starter (Ichikawa Kei), Seven Days, and Kurayami ni Strobe, if you haven't read them already.

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lkyuri
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7:02 am, Jan 26 2014
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Thank you everybody! I'm going through them now.

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