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Do you agree with what the Confederacy fought for? Do you agree with what they did? If we rose up once more would you join us?
I agree with what they did and what they fought for. I would fight if they rose again.
I do not agree with what they did or what they fought for. I would not fight.
I do not agree with what they did or what they fought for. I would fight against them.
I agree with what they fought for but not what they did. I would fight for them.
I agree with what they fought for but not what they did. I would not fight.
I don't really care about what they did or how they did it.
Other, explain.
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" I would like to remind you that the modern society of humanity is not evolving at all or at a stupidly stunted rate. "

Evolution is always happening. Always. Yes, at a slow rate. You know what else would have a slow rate if it could happen? Homogeneity of race.


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Alright, I am truly confused how a fucking sig from a DnD personality test from four years ago is racist?
Especially considering the wording. It assigns colors for the various personality traits. Holy shit. I get that you seem to have to find some need to label me as an idiotic racist but a fuck DnD personality test that uses colors to signify light, fire, darkness, etc.? If it sounds wrong blame DnD for fucks sake.

And when in the fuck was natural selection not evolution? They go hand in hand. Natural selection determines which genes are passed on through through whether or not that creature is capable of surviving to the point that is can reproduce.

Evolution is when a creature evolves depending on its surrounding to better fit them for the long run. Taking many many years in most cases. Natural selection is the system that determines whether or not the genes of the creature are fit for the area by whether or not it survives. When the ones not suited do not survive to reproduce then only the ones with the genes that fit the area survive which means they "evolved" from the original base.

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That's but one reason, as was the Dred Scott decision, the Kansas-Nebraska Act, John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry, Nat Turner's rebellion. Perhaps most importantly:

"While many still debate the ultimate causes of the Civil War, Pulitzer Prize-winning author James McPherson writes that, "T ...


I never denied slavery as being a prime reason. I merely wanted to know if people agreed with the reason regarding the states rights in regards to tariffs and the likes.



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I never denied slavery as being a prime reason. I merely wanted to know if people agreed with the reason regarding the states rights in regards to tariffs and the likes.


...And I told you it was but an additional reason aside from the predominant cause which was slavery. If you wanted to discuss taxes and state rights then why did you not make a thread about the Nullification Crisis which was also a factor in the lead up to the Civil War or even a more current one about legal marijuana in Colorado and Washington and the taxes to be gained by states and the differences with the federal government.

Instead you made a thread asking people what they think of the Confederacy and giving them a poll with an option of fighting with them while dropping your little racist cues throughout this thread. It's actually kind of sad that you cannot comprehend what a buffoon you come of as. Remember that it was you who brought race into this.

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Alright, I am truly confused how a fucking sig from a DnD personality test from four years ago is racist?
Especially considering the wording. It assigns colors for the various personality traits. Holy shit. I get that you seem to have to find some need to label me as an idiotic racist but a fuck DnD ...


it's not so much the sig, it's your reaction. I don't know why you are stubbornly persisting in defending your original post. People have expressed that it comes off racist and offensive. AGAIN, regardless of how you meant it, you should have edited the post and then politely stated your intent to discuss the states' rights and tariffs. Instead, you make a comment on being against mixing races. You derailed your own thread. Notice how in the beginning some people responded solely to your topic? Your attitude has turned people against you. I'm not saying this to attack you, but you should be more aware of how others receive you. Was your stance on mixing or your sig that important that you had to alienate/insult those around you? Think about it.


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I find it amusing that you continually attempt to downplay the plights of the serfs. You seemingly claim that being a serf is better than being a slave. That is false and the reason is rather simple. Imagine seeing a sliver of hope but never being able to grasp it. Imagine leaving the land you are ...

I find amusing that you would rather be a slave than a serf. I think it's preferable to go through the pains of serfdom with friends and loved ones without fear of them being taken away from me. I rather not have an overseer overlooking everything I do 24/7 (there were some supervision but not as much slavery in the South and beatings were not the norm). I prefer not being treated like cattle sent for the slaughter and be discarded at the whim of someone else. It's pretty obvious that slaves do know they're being abused and desire freedom since many have tried to escape, even if it was in vain. Serfdom was hard, I definitely agree on that, but it's also more humane than slavery.

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I find amusing that you would rather be a slave than a serf. I think it's preferable to go through the pains of serfdom with friends and loved ones without fear of them being taken away from me. I rather not have an overseer overlooking everything I do 24/7 (there were some supervision but not as m ...


Let's agree to disagree and simply say they both suck.

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it's not so much the sig, it's your reaction. I don't know why you are stubbornly persisting in defending your original post. People have expressed that it comes off racist and offensive. AGAIN, regardless of how you meant it, you should have edited the post and then politely stated your intent to ...


In all honestly Badkarma made the first remark to the sig and blatantly suggested that it meant I was racist. I do not view being against mixing as racism. I view racism as the looking down upon of others simply due to race. The though that simply because someone is not you that they are inferior.
I do not support that. I have never supported that. I never intended to support that. And yes, I fail to see how me trying to explain that I was not racist makes me even more of a racist and a bigot. I fail to see it and I most likely never will see it. Just like how I don't see how a personality test for DnD was perceived as some hidden jive at Africans/African Americans and...Native Americans? I honestly don't know what red would refer to but that's my first guess. I suppose it has been a while since that particular one has been used here because no one seemed to recognize it or know what the other colors are. There is no race implied whatsoever and I rather doubt the creator of it thought that some people would attempt to label it as a jibe at race.

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Let's disregard whether being against mixing is racist or not for a moment. I am not the one accusing you of racism, I'm saying that your comments have been giving off that impression. These people are having very strong negative reactions to your wording. That doesn't mean they should just get over themselves. It could have been as simple as changing a few phrases. Such as "Sorry. I didn't even think about that. It's just a sig I liked a few years ago and I never bothered to change it. Didn't mean to come off as racist." And then reword the original post and/or disable the sig until the discussion was over. It. Was. As. Simple. As. That.


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Let's disregard whether being against mixing is racist or not for a moment. I am not the one accusing you of racism, I'm saying that your comments have been giving off that impression. These people are having very strong negative reactions to your wording. That doesn't mean they should just get over ...


I did say that. Although looking back at it, it was quite hostile.
I never did intend anything to come across as racist but I do understand that some parties involved took it as so and I apologize for that. It was most definitely unintended.


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In all honestly Badkarma made the first remark to the sig and blatantly suggested that it meant I was racist. I do not view being against mixing as racism. I view racism as the looking down upon of others simply due to race. The though that simply because someone is not you that they are inferior. ...


rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm]

noun

1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.


You say you are against mixing, meaning that anyone who is mixed is someone who you do not condone because you are opposed to the practice from which they came; which is people of different races mixing. Sounds like an aspect of racism to me.

As far as your sig, it's not solely the sig but the fact that you created this thread, said you were against mixing and then said that blacks fought for the South as to imply that because they did that somehow that would justify your thread and that ethnicity would not be an issue. Now add your signature to that. It does not provide the most open minded image of you.

Can you not see that? Are you really that obtuse?

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rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm]

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1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

2. a policy, system of government, etc ...


I have nothing against mixed people. They are who they are. I may not be for mixing but I will not hate or look down on someone for being mixed. I have many friends that are mixed and they know my views and do not care. I stated that blacks fought for the South because they did. I said it to defuse the possibility that someone would claim racism for mentioning a movement solely followed by a single "race". Apparently the original intent failed.

I apologize for causing such a big misunderstanding.

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I have nothing against mixed people. They are who they are. I may not be for mixing but I will not hate or look down on someone for being mixed. I have many friends that are mixed and they know my views and do not care. I stated that blacks fought for the South because they did. I said it to defus ...

You said you are against mixing which then turned into a slippery slope in which you said that it could result in the extermination of humanity. That means that people who are mixed are contributing to an impending doom someday; but from your viewpoint, your ideas towards that group of people are not racism which is just comical in how an absurd notion that is. Maybe not entirely racist, perhaps let's add xenophobia and ethnocentrism to that as well.

...but hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

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You said you are against mixing which then turned into a slippery slope in which you said that it could result in the extermination of humanity. That means that people who are mixed are contributing to an impending doom someday; but from your viewpoint, your ideas towards that group of people are no ...


Alright fine, I was trying to be relatively nice but fuck that since you can't drop that.

I'm a Confederate supporter that fucking hates yankees and misinformed southerners that hate their heritage; oh wait, they're a bunch of damned yankees that came down here to rob us and corrupt our youth and never left. I fucking hate the union. I fucking hate the north.
Because apparently all the shit the north put us through means nothing in your march on racism. Apparently we're all fucking racist for loving our heritage. Apparently the political correctness of modern society in this country refused to acknowledge that people can be racist to whites. Apparently that doesn't fucking matter.

Fuck the union. Fuck the constitution. Fuck the yankee nation. I hope we rise soon and kick all of your ignorant southern hating asses out of our country you occupying assholes.

P.S. can a mod lock this?

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