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5:47 am, Feb 7 2014
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I'm just going to place this right over here....

http://world.time.com/2014/02/07/japanese-nhk-officials-world-w ar-ii/

TL;DR : NHK's tops are saying Japan was the biggest victim in WWII and that the U.S Made shit up.


Edit: Just want your thoughts on this. Tis all

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But this is nothing new, really. Abe and his inner guard have been sprouting this kind of shit for a good time now.

Didn't he have a stated campaign goal of having the school material for WWII rewritten to better suit his stated view on the matter? So instead of the current non-committal version of "So yeah, there was a war in the Pacific and we were kinda involved and then we got Atom Bombed", it would be more like "The monster USA forced us to defend ourselves, and when we did, they bombed us. Any and all claims of Japanese war crimes are filth and slander."

The guy is an embarrassing idiot, and a political liability besides.

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i think the americans should have been a little harsher back when they had full controle of japan

the emperor
and all those idiots around him should have hung for their crimes
for the countless acts of warcrimes in china and most of the occupied countrys during ww2
that they are responsible for

known warcriminals are celebrated today as national heroes in japan
thats just as sick as if hermann göring
got his birthday marked as flagday or something in germany

that would not stop rightwing shitbags like shinzo abe of course
but the blantant racist and nationalistic views might atleast be kept behind closed doors
[not sure if that is better...lol...but that will never go away so its better not to see that shit]

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Let sleeping dogs lie, people. The world war was fought over half a century back. I agree that it was a horrible period, but we don't have to keep bringing it up and make everyone more miserable.

No country is without it's fair share of crimes. And yes, that includes the US and Japan. So no one has the right to go about bashing any country.

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Quote from bakerygirl
Let sleeping dogs lie, people. The world war was fought over half a century back. I agree that it was a horrible period, but we don't have to keep bringing it up and make everyone more miserable.

No country is without it's fair share of crimes. And yes, that includes the US and Japan. So no one has the right to go about bashing any country.

I actually think that gives us more right to bash them. Since they aren't following suit and admitting to their mistakes. Who better to judge them than an equal.

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I actually think that gives us more right to bash them. Since they aren't following suit and admitting to their mistakes. Who better to judge them than an equal.


I don't claim to be an expert in politics, current affairs and such, but I don't ever remember the US admitting to any of its mistakes. No government(of any country/state/county) would ever do that for obvious reasons. I am not against people criticising a government. Everyone has their right to speech in a democracy. But why for a war fought so long ago? You don't have to shadow each and every footstep. Why not focus on more important topics like this.

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Japan was an active participant in the war. To say that they're a victim would be an insult to country/s that suffer under their colonialism. For Hyakuta, who has high position in NHK, saying something like that show how ignorant he is. But then again, there's always one in every family. Two, if we considered Katsuto Momii's comment on "comfort woman".

War has ended long time ago, and it's best to not bringing up old wound, but that doesn't mean that we should completely forgot the history.

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I agree with the second paragraph of Sorcha. I don't really understand the point of this thread or discussion, but what I learn is that US do steal things and logic stuff from other countries. But Japan was the one that caused the problem, although they didn't actually start the war, but...they're the cause of it.
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In campaign speeches on behalf of a far-right candidate for the governorship of Tokyo, Hyakuta claimed that the infamous Nanjing Massacre in 1937 never occurred, and that Americans staged the postwar trials of Japanese leaders to cover up U.S. war crimes. He said those crimes included the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the mass firebombings of Tokyo.

The part about Nanjin Massacre actually did occured, so this magazine or whatever it is is putting up false accusation. The bombing may have been a mass destruction for Japan, but Japan bombed one of the areas of US and killed many army soldiers. In the article its saying what the NHK current board member is saying on his part that these things never happened but he wasn't even alive at that time most likely. So putting false information is not really a good thing to tell the news reporter and how the chairman shouldn't have said about the prostitution out in the open.
The last part of the article shouldn't have been added, honestly. It's taunting the US/Americans

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The NHK is a publically funded television channel run by an arm of the Japanese Government. The closest thing we have to that would be like PBS in the US.Except instead of taking donations they are paid for by taxes. So in a way, this is basically the Japanese Government saying they are the victims and that the US made up a bunch of atrocities against them. Which is so far from the truth, it's practically impossible to not call them out on their bullshit.

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The bombing may have been a mass destruction for Japan, but Japan bombed one of the areas of US and killed many army soldiers.


Actually, this is one of the arguments in favor of Japan when we are comparing the evils of each participant in the war. They made a strong Blitzkrieg-themed raid on a major US military base. Suprise attack or no, it was a military target. The firebombings of Tokyo and both of the A-bombs were attacks against the civilian population. They are not comparable or "equal" in any way or form, even if Pearl did include a number of civilian casualties.

However, this does not excuse the countless atrocities committed by the Japanese military. Its just typical of history to sweep the misdeeds of the victors under the rug.

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Actually, this is one of the arguments in favor of Japan when we are comparing the evils of each participant in the war. They made a strong Blitzkrieg-themed raid on a major US military base. Suprise attack or no, it was a military target. The firebombings of Tokyo and both of the A-bombs were attacks against the civilian population. They are not comparable or "equal" in any way or form, even if Pearl did include a number of civilian casualties.

Ohhh, I don?t really care but I can?t help but agree with him..
They were civilians(innocent(?))... Yes, I think..

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Yes, I understand that part. And I don't disagree about it that that was the biggest and harshest US has attacked Japan. The part where TaoPaoPao said about Americans taking control of Japan isn't what they wanted to plan to do. They didn't want to take control of the country nor had any thoughts of it. And American were already harsh about bombing civilians. Their radar couldn't detect where their military base are or the airplanes that dropped bomb are located.
I'm not on either side, just that each has it's own fault for causing that destruction; different opinion and different views at different time periods.

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Everyone and their mother did horrible things during the war. And those of the enemies of United States are exaggerated while those of their allies kept quiet about. That's how propaganda works.

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