i always cringe at loli genre or japanese middleschooler/highschooler doing that "gravure" videos, because i know a lot of pedos use it as fap material. i know is not a porn but it is sexual exploitation of children.

There're so many psycopath own loli hentai and i'm sure that thing only make them worse.


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Pffft. Like anything is going to change. In "the worse case", it only forces the pedos to become more tech saavy and learn to use the deep web. Also I doubt there'll be impact for what you've said if it only affects pornography.

yeah i'm a bit dissapointed this law doesn't touch manga and anime, LOli hentai is the biggest source for child pornoghrapy and real easy to find.

here is good article about this issue http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/06/18/national/crime-le gal/diet-passes-bill-to-ban-possession-of-child-porn-images/#.U6Y- kUA7Clg

Srry for making thread in the wrong place, thnkyou MOD

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You do know that quite progressive places, like Sweden, have gone and outlined that loli-manga does not equate to child porn, right? And that there are pretty much no proven connections with loli and people who commit pedophilic crimes. Some conjecture, yes, like the one in the article about the dude killing children, but nothing even remotely indicative of a pattern that would fit even a sizable minority of the people who commit such acts.

It is the exact same thing as certain parts of the media in USA pointing fingers at video games every time someone goes on a shooting spree. There is no proven cause-and-effect.

You may personally find it distasteful and sure, keep that shit out of the hands of kids, but don't try to label people who indulge in harmless fantasies as psychopaths.

That aside, the law is very welcome and overdue.

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wtf, that's very over due. i thought child porn is already outlawed every where there's civilization. though i do not agree drawn cartoons should be banned, as no real children is harmed.

but i actually believe video games, cartoons, media in general do influence people especially kids. or else, who would you blame for anorexia and obesity, where models influence the former and advertisements influence the latter?

still, i really believe cartoon child porn, guro or torture porn movies should never be banned on reasons of free speech and no real person is harmed, as parenting should be done by the parents, not the job of others.

Harmless? You do know Rape tag is very popular in Loli hentai manga, you dont think some people read it, fantasize about it then kidnap the neighbour kid? maybe the chance is very slim but it still happening.

The fact is a lot of this kidnapper own hentai loli manga and it's one of the many reason that trigger their action.

Let me ask you one more question what is so different between the effect of real child porn and Loli hentai to their's consumer?? i dont see any different.

The fact is Loli Hentai effect is real and quite harmfull should be enough reason for Japanese gov to ban the production of Loli Hentai. Just like i said in my other post Loli hentai is the biggest source of child pornoghrapy and really easy to find. and with manga scanlations it distributed all over the world.



Is not kids we should worried, is the adult. the pedos free surfing the internet and collect some explicit Loli hentai, fantasize about it and try to make it real life events.


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What you just stated is actually, factually incorrect, instead being a fact. That is just your opinion and in this case, there is no evidence in support of that theory/opinion. Actually, it seems to fall to the opposite direction.

Here, let me give you an example. Lets say 5 dudes out of... lets say 100000 are pedophiles (no crimes yet, but the tendency for finding children sexually attractive). 1 out of them will never act on those urges no matter what. 2 will eventually move on to actual children because whatever reason (lust overriding compassion/good sense/morality/whatever). 2 need some release for their urges, but can find a 100% harmless release in it by consuming hentai products, instead of molesting children or getting their hands on actual, IRL child porn.

Given this scenario, the last two guys in leave it at the fantasizing part and will never harm a child.

I pulled those numbers out of my ass, but the principle itself is actually supported by scientific study. With the easy availability of cartoon porn fitting the tastes of these individuals, the number of potential victims is less than without.

Again, individual cases of nutheads possessing loli-hentai as well as real child porn and going on a child molesting/raping/killing career does not equate to loli-hentai being the cause of said behavior, nor is it a gateway-drug for such behavior. There is no cause-and-effect between them.

So yes, harmless, and possibly a positive factor if the goal is to reduce the number of victims of child porn and/or sexual molestation. If you just want to lock up people after they have caused victims, then you'd have a case. But surely you don't think that more victims and more people locked up would be the preferable scenario?

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Loli hentai as a sexual outlet is certainly preferable to people looking at actual child porn, or touching children. Might as well give pedophiles something made without hurting a child.

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following your logic we should ban movies and books in general because they contain immoral things, people could start to fantasize about it and do stupid things. Afaik interest does not come from the medium we are interested in, but from our character. Those mediums are exactly as harmful as the people using it.

A reason to trigger their action? where did you get this? did some of those kidnappers actually confess that it's the loli manga's fault? as baal said, this is not a fact, but conjecture on your part.

a difference would be, that unless you actually see 2D you can clearly differentiate between fiction and reality, child porn would have taken place, while loli hentai would "just" be something someone wrote

again where do you take your information that it is harmful? I agree with the other people here, taking away the one thing that keeps a (possibly slightly deranged) person sane/fulfilled is never a good idea.

There are people who are sexually attracted to their mothers, to inanimate objects or to animals. And not all of these cases are mental illnesses. Of course we are very susceptible when it concerns children, that is something extremely important. But banning that won't change that some people like children, or animals, or dead things. What are your options then? Put them all into asylums? Let them suppress one of their needs? Sorry but this isn't the medieval age anymore, we can't throw them off cliffs. They should have possibilities to fulfill their needs without causing any harm, like any other human being.

btw,on the parental issue:
the job of a parent is to educate a child in a way that it doesn't even think about kidnapping/hurting others. Unless you got yourself a psychopath, a good upbringing will prevent more than any ban.

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Harmless? You do know Rape tag is very popular in hentai manga, you dont think some people read it, fantasize about it then kidnap/rape the neighbour? maybe the chance is very slim but it still happening.

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I'm glad this law was finally enacted and I have no clue why it took so long. As for people who say that laws won't change anything (@Damnedman) I have to disagree. In the past, pedophiles could say that they weren't doing anything wrong since there was no law banning it. Now they know that are morally and legally wrong. And it will prevent some from acting on their impulses.

As for loli and shota manga, I don't think that all people who read these genres are pedophiles (or potential pedophiles). Most people can distinguish between reality and fiction. Someone can like watching horror movies about serial killers without going out and killing a bunch of people. Movies, manga, video games, etc don't make people do things that they wouldn't otherwise do.

I think that people who can't differentiate between and reality are either retarded, sick, or both.

I also think that people who believe that works of fantasy and fiction should be banned just because they are paranoid of the world they live in are just as retarded.

Sick people will do sick things - regardless of these "triggers" you fear mongers are so afraid of.


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Those pedophile must be retarded as deviant then. They're directly contributing to the criminal activity of statutory rape by paying the perpetrators/publishers supporting the perpetrators, ergo they are accomplices. Then again, most people are idiots, pedophiles or not.