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Post #653142 - Reply to (#653093) by Bagdemagus
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I don't agree that sakura is that idiot. I mean, she did try to change things but had no luck: She confessed to naruto, but he refused; She tried killing sasuke, but obviously failed.
People in the manga act like she is helplessly in love even after Sakura proved that her feelings do not hinder her ...

She didn't mean it. She was being manipulative when she told Naruto she loved him, I remember the backlash when that happened and then he saves her ass from being killed by Sasuke.

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My final word is this: Is this a situation where japanese readers kind of like her because she is LOYAL like that chick in Bleach(haven´t read it for years). I personaly don´t care for Sakura because she is very statik,has NO self preservation, is just so lame and has the brain of a child ...

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I never thought of it like that. That is also highly probable. She probably tried the same stunt she tried with Naruto a while back thinking that her love confession will bring Sasuke back but unlike Naruto, Sasuke is much sharper in telling if it genuine or not. That's why Sasuke put her under genjutsu without any hesitation.

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The real idiot in love with sasuke is naruto, only karin (who happens to be from same clan, maybe it's in the blood) comes close.


Lol this is so true! I also laughed at that person who said Sakura isn't an idiot, but Kishimoto is. I mean he is the writer who has been making her act this way! I just hope he won't endorse a crap view of love by having it Sakura x Sasuke because that is an abusive relationship. Sasuke doesn't even know what love is. He's a sociopath.

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That would just ruin Naruto's ending. It would be a very unacceptable ending. Either she ends up with someone else or Naruto or end up alone like Tsunade. It started pleasant and should also end pleasant. I rather not have a bad taste after I finish reading it.

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Yes I agree RS456. I'm starting to wonder if Kishi will even have any clear couples. He might just imply pairings and let us decide. But yeah, Sakura x Sasuke would ruin the entire manga for me.

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i feel pretty sure that like other similar manga, this story will end witn no pairings. Matter of fact, Im starting to worry if the story will even come to a reasonable conclusion. i dont know why manga authors have to wait until the last chapter and then try to cram a big dramatic ending into 18 pages. I would much rather see everthing come to conclusion before the last chapter and then use the last chapter or two to give a flash of what will happen to everyone in the future.

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i feel pretty sure that like other similar manga, this story will end witn no pairings. Matter of fact, Im starting to worry if the story will even come to a reasonable conclusion. i dont know why manga authors have to wait until the last chapter and then try to cram a big dramatic ending into 18 pages. I would much rather see everthing come to conclusion before the last chapter and then use the last chapter or two to give a flash of what will happen to everyone in the future.


This always bothers me. Especially with long mangas. You spend years if not decades following a story. And when it finally ends. The ending is such a rushed job and disappointing (Dont even get me started on open endings where they are right back where they started.). Endings make or break any story in any medium. Im not too familiar with how writing manga works. But i do know they rely on popularity (which makes sense). And thats good for the beginning and middle part of a story. But it ruins the ending. They have to keep the story going cause its popular. And if they had an ending in mind they have to put it off for new arcs in the story. Then by the time the mangas popularity falls and its time to end they cannot use their original ending because of the expanded story and the lack of chapters to tell it. Thus the end of the story and epilogue are crammed into one chapter and its just disappointing to everyone.



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Post #654234 - Reply to (#653897) by jeffreymgibson
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i feel pretty sure that like other similar manga, this story will end witn no pairings. Matter of fact, Im starting to worry if the story will even come to a reasonable conclusion. i dont know why manga authors have to wait until the last chapter and then try to cram a big dramatic ending into 18 pa ...

Hear hear. I wonder how popular mass artists feel about 10+ years of their real life ending with a 20 page whimper. Would it kill the magazine to give them a proper notice or just put extra pages in the tankōbon. You can always continue series that have conclusive endings in some form(when the money runs out). E.g. Sandman or Please Save my Earth or Punisher Max. I for example find the Potter series "only" allright(and it got a genration to pick up a book thx) but the ending is very solid. One may not like it but a conclusion was reached and your horizen was opend to think about further adventures. And now it´s back or something. ' confused ' The beauty is though that your old jumping off point is still there. Everyone is happy and only one short epilogue was needed.

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After consulting with people, the correct translation for this chapter was the Viz translation (previously, I thought it was Mangapanda)

Sakura still loves Sasuke in some sense, but her love cannot be described as romantic or plantonic. She feels guilty for allowing Sasuke to fall into darkness even though it has absolutely nothing to do with her and there was nothing she could have done. As she said, she finds herself pathetic for not being able to do anything but beg for him not to go, for them not to fight, and for things to return as they were before he left, that Team 7 would make him happy again.

Sasuke mistakenly thought that Sakura was just confessing his love to him again, but Kakashi clears that up. As the Viz translation says, "She's not trying to be your girlfriend/be yours, she only wants to save you". That translation does make sense since all the other translations have the line "She only wants to save you". 'Only' wouldn't make sense if Kakashi was insisting that Sakura was trying be to be his girl.

That is why right after that, Sasuke think of his family, and says that that kind of love/whatever, it's too late for it. It'll never come back, some other crap he always spews from his mouth.

I guess, my problem with Sakura is, why does she feel so responsible over him? But it's not just Sakura, it's Kakashi, Naruto, Karin, Ino, EVERYONE has this weird need to help him out for no good reason. I don't get it. He's never done anything worth while for them. Maybe Naruto a little bit, but even still, it's insignificant compared to everything else. I am tired of Sakura's weird attachment to Sasuke, but it's not just her. I'm tired of Naruto, Kakashi, and everyone caring so much about him. It's annoying.

But anyway, I guess this is why I hold no malice towards Sakura in particular. I think they're all idiots to some extent for caring about Sasuke so much, and I find it annoying in all of them, not just Sakura.

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Thanks for clearing that up kirabook! Now I wish I would have read the official viz translation because the fan one I read made it seem like she was still in love with him, which I find pretty upsetting. We are relying on them to provide us with the correct wording in order to understand what's going on and apparently they are not doing this...

I think they feel responsible for Sasuke because it's a part of their culture to look out for each other. Since he's from their village, they have to be the ones who stop him from destroying the shinobi world. I hate Sasuke as a character, but Kishimoto seems to like him from the interviews he's given. I agree with you though, I also find it annoying that everyone is so fixated on Sasuke.

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Normally, Viz is the least accurate out of all of them. Normally, I hate Viz translations and stick to mangapanda. Mangapanda wasn't right this time because it used past tense. I was told they probably did that mistakenly because Sakura's whole speech was about the past, what she couldn't do back then. I was also told that this time around, all the translations differ way too much and none of them were right on point, but out of the three, Viz got Sakura and Kakashi's point across the best.

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One last note to mention, I was also told that it was probably hard to translate Sakura's potion because she was literally like, begging. Her sentences appeared to be cut off or kinda rushed. This was truly her last ditch effort to stop the madness, all she could offer was the good old days.

I would have much rather she'd taken a Naruto approach and beat the sense into him, but when it comes to Sasuke, she just loses all senses, and she degrades herself unnecessarily. She probably could have done something else, but I guess she values herself so little against Sasuke, this is all she felt she could do.

I don't know why Kishi decided to write it this way, but I can only guess he wanted Sakura's romantic love for Sasuke, or any notion of such, to end in a dramatic way. It's kind of symbolic that Sasuke stabbed her through her chest where her heart is no doubt, as if her feelings have been brutally extinguished once and for all.

I think the possibility of them ever getting together has long been impossible, and I think Sakura knows that as well. But I'm not sure she'll ever completely rid herself of her first love feelings. Or maybe they will completely transform into platonic feelings like Kakashi suggests.

P.S The last chapter is 30+ pages I believe.

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Post #654289 - Reply to (#654287) by kirabook
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so so since most of ninjas died and so many wives lost their partner, sasuke can make harem for himself right?

Sasuke x Naruto love is feeling the air (wait for that flashback!)

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P.S The last chapter is 30+ pages I believe.

something like full metal alchemist ? oh god no

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Oh! God Damn Yeah!

She isn't just an Idiot...She Is Annoying As Well !!

She should have just roll over and died...ya


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Post #654300 - Reply to (#654287) by kirabook
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I don't know why Kishi decided to write it this way, but I can only guess he wanted Sakura's romantic love for Sasuke, or any notion of such, to end in a dramatic way. It's kind of symbolic that Sasuke stabbed her through her chest where her heart is no doubt, as if her feelings have been brutally extinguished once and for all.


Yes I like that symbolic gesture too... it contrasts completely with when Sakura had Naruto's heart in her hands as she was trying to heal him. Hopefully the symbolic "murder" will help her to move on and go forward with Naruto in the future.

PS: thank you for the panels and explanation, it's really helpful!

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