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Not-BlackOrion
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9:06 pm, Sep 30 2014
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I want, for once, a lead that doesn't give go with other people's plans, and doesn't doubt himself. If he is told to go either right or left he walks right trough the wall in the middle, something like that.

There are too many bashful protagonist and not Adamant ones.

Care to give me a recommendation?

Things I would like on the recommendation:
-Doesn't think twice about anything
-Doesn't stop no matter what
-Doesn't care about hostages or anything (this is optional, but would be preferable)

Things I would rather not see on the recommendations:
-He is just stupid, not really Adamant, just not able to think
-Ends up changing over time
-Cares about something


In short, I want a main characters that's immune to tactics and doesn't let himself be manipulated, nor controlled, or stopped.


Edit:
It doesn't have to be action, and the protagonist doesn't need to be a guy, I'm fine with romance, drama, psychological, or whatever so long as the conditions are met on the main character.

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That's not how pros and cons work...

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I think BlackOrion meant that he want something like in the pros, and dont want any in the cons.

I can only recommend Aiki for now.

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That's not how pros and cons work...


Why?, I named a few things that I would rather have on the manga on the pro and things I don't want on the cons, what's wrong?


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I can only recommend Aiki for now.


Yes, this is a perfect example, but I'm up to date with Aiki-S.

Can anybody think of anything else? I think Akumetsu fits aswell, as another example

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In short, I want a main characters that's immune to tactics and doesn't let himself be manipulated, nor controlled, or stopped.


One-Punch Man
King Golf

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I'm already reading OPM, but I'm giving King Golf a try, to be honest I don't care much for Golf tough, but I won't judge with out reading it a bit, thank you.

Also, I tough of another good example:
Re:Monster, be it the Novel or the manga, the MC is nobody's bitch.


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Why?, I named a few things that I would rather have on the manga on the pro and things I don't want on the cons, what's wrong?

Pro and con is used when describing advantages and disadvantages... not things to be included and excluded or whatever. Because you're not talking about a specific thing.

In this context you might have used a pro/con list to describe what you liked and disliked about a certain anime in particular, but... I don't know if I'm explaining well.

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Well the ones that come to mine are:

Hunter x Hunter
One Piece

Not sure if you've read them or not since your reading lists aren't public, but hopefully you haven't.

Also, jedinat is right, pro and con are used to describe the advantages and disadvantages of something. So in your OP someone would read your list as the advantages of an adamant character and the disadvantages of an adamant character, it would not be taken as inclusion and exclusion.

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Pro and con is used when describing advantages and disadvantages... not things to be included and excluded or whatever. Because you're not talking about a specific thing.

In this context you might have used a pro/con list to describe what you liked and disliked about a certain anime in particular, ...


I get you, but I don't think I miss used the term, none of that was necessary, just things I would rather have on whatever might be recommended to me, nothing was necessary, perhaps it was weird because of the clarification i made on one, but I was just trying to emphasize that that one wasn't really much of an issue to me, since it's weird for a main character to truly don't care about other characters.
So it would be a better if the recommendation has any of the pros, and bad if it has any of the cons, but I would give it a try either way.



Also, I'm reading everything on Jump and Sunday.






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Quote from jedinat
Pro and con is used when describing advantages and disadvantages... not things to be included and excluded or whatever. Because you're not talking about a specific thing.

In this context you might have used a pro/con list to describe what you liked and disliked about a certain anime in particular, ...


... I don't really understand why you're grammar nazi-ing this thread. who cares? everyone knows what he's talking about...

Recommendations in this order:
Rakuin no Monshou (Novel)

Vinland Saga

Mahouka KouKou no Rettousei (Novel)

Edit: if you're into jump a lot, then Vinland Saga is probably #1


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... I don't really understand why you're grammar nazi-ing this thread. who cares? everyone knows what he's talking about...



I wouldn't really consider that being a grammar nazi since it's I had to do a double-take before I fully understood what the OP was trying to ask. "Pros/Cons" is usually used to refer to both the benefits and negatives of the same object, like a double-sided coin. So it wouldn't normally be used in something like 'I'm Looking for...' when he was probably trying to mean "Want/Do not Want."

Anyway, I didn't actually read that far into it, but maybe Nabari no Ou?

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... I don't really understand why you're grammar nazi-ing this thread. who cares? everyone knows what he's talking about...

Recommendations in this order:
Rakuin no Monshou (Novel)

Vinland Saga

Mahouka KouKou no Rettousei (Novel)

Edit: if you're into jump a lot, then Vinland Saga is probably # ...


I'm reading Vinland Saga, and while I really like it, it's really not a good example,
Spoiler (mouse over to view)
It's been years since Thorfin lost his fire.

I Know about Mahouka KouKou no Rettousei, but I think the MC is a too soft, even if he is indeed strong.
Rakuin no Monshou (Novel) sounds interesting, thanks for the recommendation. biggrin

Also, it's not that I'm that much into Shonen, just that I wanted to be up to date with the most well known series

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I wouldn't really consider that being a grammar nazi since it's I had to do a double-take before I fully understood what the OP was trying to ask. "Pros/Cons" is usually used to refer to both the benefits and negatives of the same object, like a double-sided coin. So it wouldn't normally b ...


, To be honest, by the Summary, the MC from Nabari no Ou doesn't seem like a headstrong person, am I wrong to assume that?

Also I changed my original post, I just wanted something short to point out things I would like or not, If it really was that much of a bother I don't think it's worth arguing over it, but this is the definition I found of pro:

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An advantage of something, especially when contrasted with its disadvantages (cons).


Since it says "especially" I tough it meant that it could still be used as "An advantage of something", in this case of the recommended manga/novels

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Quote from BlackOrion
I'm reading Vinland Saga, and while I really like it, it's really not a good example,
Spoiler (mouse over to view)
It's been years since Thorfin lost his fire.

I Know about Mahouka KouKou no Rettousei, but I think the MC is a too soft, even if he is indeed strong.
Rakuin no Monshou (Novel) sounds interesting, thanks for the ...


eh, Miharu in Nabari no Ou isn't really headstrong, and he does get caught up in the plot a lot...

About Vinland saga...yeah I was going to say something like up until chapter X... but then I thought, it might be alright since he sticks to his new values after the fact in the face of stupid amounts of opposition.

hm... have you tried Re:Monster?

If you want things like Thorfin before farm-saga
how about Yongbyeong Maluhan
or Dendrobates

there's also Vagabond
which is like the Japanese version of Vinland Saga,
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only in vagabond's farm saga,
while starts caring about people he's remains a bad ass.
He does not angst about all the people he killed. and he is still stubborn as hell

Edit: oh but he was kind of lame against that spear guy that one time though...

This is supposed to be about a real samurai.

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Quote from steaiii
eh, Miharu in Nabari no Ou isn't really headstrong, and he does get caught up in the plot a lot...

About Vinland saga...yeah I was going to say something like up until chapter X... but then I thought, it might be alright since he sticks to his new values after the fact in the face of stupid amoun ...


Don't get me wrong, Thorfin is great
Spoiler (mouse over to view)
Specially now that he has grown as much he did, but he cares too about others too much now, so he doesn't fit the criteria


From the others, the only one I didn't know is Yongbyeong Maluhan, and I'm giving it a try, thanks!

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First title that came to mind was Yugami-kun Doesn't Have Any Friends.

This guy is very insistent on getting his way and doesn't really seem to care about others on a particularly deep level. Not sure if this might change later, but all the scanlated chapters so far has him pretty much in character.

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