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This week's poll was suggested initially by PinkShippuden with a slight amendment from 狂気. We did a similar poll 1.5 years ago, but it was phrased in the negative. This one is phrased in the positive.

You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related)
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Previous Poll Results:
Question: If you were a villain from a manga, what kind would you be?
Choices:
Destroyer of the world - votes: 762 (6.3%)
Ruler or tyrant - votes: 885 (7.3%)
Creator of chaos - votes: 919 (7.6%)
Random or psychotic - votes: 1030 (8.5%)
Strategist or mastermind - votes: 2987 (24.7%)
Brute or strongman - votes: 75 (0.6%)
Corrupter - votes: 416 (3.4%)
Terrorist - votes: 114 (0.9%)
Secretive or deceptive - votes: 1078 (8.9%)
Basic jerk - votes: 231 (1.9%)
Bad villain (try to do evil but fail so hard and end up doing good) - votes: 1545 (12.8%)
Cult leader - votes: 190 (1.6%)
Assassin - votes: 1351 (11.2%)
A minion - votes: 488 (4%)
There were 12071 total votes.
The poll ended: January 31st 2015

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Am I the only one who doesn't understand straight men's obsession with yuri or straight women's obsession with yaoi.

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This will become a weird poll.
Do I need to be surprised by the low score for "I'm female and I prefer neither" or for the high score for "I'm male and I prefer neither".

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I'm male and I read more yuri than I read yaoi so I chose "I'm male and I prefer yuri". When I read yaoi I tend to only read yaoi involving traps so there aren't a whole lot that fit my tastes unfortunately. My tastes in yuri seem to be easier to find.

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Post #660794 - Reply to (#660790) by Faukner
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Am I the only one who doesn't understand straight men's obsession with yuri or straight women's obsession with yaoi.

I don't think it's the obsession of one but often the dislike of the other. As a straight guy, I avoid Yaoi but don't mind reading Yuri. I think I've only ever read and enjoyed one BL series, not my cup of tea in most cases.
Of course there are those obsessed with BL/GL, but I don't think it's the majority.

Post #660795 - Reply to (#660791) by deadphoenix
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Give it some time. From the time of this reply, the poll has only been up roughly 3 hours. The only weird thing I find about this post is this strange feeling that we've done this poll before...

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Okay...this is how it goes - I'm male and I prefer neither...So, yeah babe...what I prefer is called " Straight "...

though, I don't find men loving Yuri a bit weird...haha

@Faukner - The only answer to your point I can find is, because they can't apply it to themselves...so, probably because of it, the ones enjoys it can enjoy it without any concern...^^

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Post #660801 - Reply to (#660790) by Faukner
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Am I the only one who x


This is a question that you should never ask in the internet, because the answer is always no. ALWAYS!

Calling it an obsession is a bit much, considering you can easily prefer something or like something without being obsessed about it. I also don't understand why you don't understand it. You can even reduce it to a quite simple formula:

If (woman = hot) and (sex/smut = hot), then it stands to reason that (woman + woman + sex = hot.)

Reverse gender for the Yaoi formula.

And yes, reality isn't quite that simple, but c'mon. You should be able to see why it works for some people.

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I always wanted to put my opinion of the 2 genres in writing so here we go. I am a hetero man so that part was easy. I am also capable of reading both but most have no real world connection (they are mostly set in modern day Neo Tokyo or sometimes the 40s) and are for a lack of a better word fairy tails or very clear porn. There more quality shonen ai manga then shojo-ai but that filed is way bigger.
So i sadly went with I'm male and I prefer neither. Is also don´t last with such manga for long and most of them are a 4-6/10. BUT sometimes they succeed with cases like these:
Honey & Honey is the best lesbian manga but that is a biography so the fictional Plica is nice too. Or the anime Simoun which wasn´t about humans so that does not even count as gay.
For shone ai i would go with Zankoku na Kami ga Shihaisuru but this one did not have realistic homosexuality and i was only reading because i liked (most) of the story and the art. Banana Fish isn´t quite shonen ai but if it was it would be the best one. For anime i go with Ai no Kusabi but that wasn´t quite about humans too and had some retarded SM rape.

If this was a comic site i would go with I'm male and I like both equally as the US/European market actually bothers to portrait LGBT characters as human since the 90s. Great examples are Kevin Keller or Batwoman who bot won GLAAD Media Award or Fun Home: A Family Tragicomic by Alison Bechdel(the one form the movie test). Good tv shows are Queer as Folk(UK) or Angels in America. My two favoutite ongoin comics after Berserk are The Walking Dead (Jesus is just rad) and Saga (Izabel is even a ghost) and both have a lot of prominent gay chracters i love.
All in all frankly dislike both japanese versions as they have crap writing in 98% of the cases or run in circles like Maria-sama ga Miteru witch has 39! volumes with no real time progression. This isn´t even an unpopular opinion as even the wikipedia article on yaoi has a big criticism section. Here a quote:
"Some gay and lesbian commentators have criticized how gay identity is portrayed in BL, most notably in the yaoi ronsō or "yaoi debate" of 1992?1997. A trope of yaoi that has attracted criticism is male protagonists who do not identify as gay, but are rather simply in love with each other." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaoi Funny enough the yuri one does not.
I am pro gay marriage by the way as germany had that since a decade but japan oh well. Maybe in my lifetime. The moment they publicly acknowledge homosexuality will be the moment when "gay manga" for me will start to come out regularly. Till then.

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As long as it ain't straight... ;p



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I'm female and i prefer yaoi but i have no problem with yuri as long as the story isn't fanservice or smut. i honestly think i would be a bigger fan of yuri if 90% the stories i find weren't futanari or made specifically for guys to masturbate to. the best yuri I've ever found was Tokimeki Mononoke Jogakkou.
my preference: 75% yaoi and 25% yuri

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This poll is going to end up telling us a lot about homophobia within the fandom. Probably not what was intended, but it certainly will be a result.

Post #660814 - Reply to (#660810) by sidzero
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Just because I don't like reading about 2 guys/girls and their love story doesn't mean I'm homophobic just not homosexual. I don't have a problem with a gay character in manga I just don't care for stories about their love life. The fact that is about 10% of the people like both and only about a third like one kind of shows that there's more of the issue with the genere than the content. Yaoi and yuri are almost always slice of life/romance/smut if next WSJ luffy declared his love of sanji I wouldn't stop reading OP but if the rest of the story became about their love life I would.

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I'm male and I prefer neither. That's because being heterosexual, I like heterosexual romance because I subconsciously project my own wish fulfilment upon the fictional couple; it's the same reason (and at the same time it isn't, but it would be difficult to explain) I dislike harem, I guess, since I like the idea of exclusivity of the romance in a couple. I don't mind the genres, but they have to present me with a solid story and characters because it's all they have got going for them since I can't personally relate with the romance. And since the most part of manga is average in all genres, I'll go with the not yuri/yaoi ones, since I am at least granted that bit of self-projection. If I had to choose between the two of them, of course I'll pick Yuri based on my sexual orientation.

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Just because I don't like reading about 2 guys/girls and their love story doesn't mean I'm homophobic just not homosexual.


And just because i like it doesn't mean i am homosexual... I feel like you defending one point just hits the other. I am a girl and enjoy to no end reading shounenai/yaoi, and if i liked yuri that wouldn't necessarily make me a lesbian, i don't think that someone who reads one or the other is "obviously gay" and at the same time if they were, there is nothing wrong with that. I feel that people who tries to defend their inclinations are just insecure...



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