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Post #667089 - Reply to (#667087) by naeddyr
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If you start to consider yourself a gatekeeper of taste, you should also block 93% of all manga out there...

Please don't suggest that. It will just lead to tears

I can suggest whatever I want, and so can you. That's the purpose of this topic in the first place, no?

And "gatekeeper of taste"? Hardly. I just feel that if we're going to put everything on the MU db like web novels and web comics by people who aren't officially published, we'll eventually end up listing original fiction (a la fiction.net of the english-speaking world), too, only in Japanese/Chinese/Korean. There should be a separate site for that. I don't come to mangaupdates to see Chinese/Korean/Japanese novels from obscure authors, I come here to see manga, and by extension manhua and manhwa (and light novels because they're pretty much manga with less pictures and more text). There needs to be some quality control, or else the huge influx of new series pages will mess up the site and make it difficult to find new titles we actually want to read through things like genre and category searches.

What MU will actually do is up to majority opinion, which currently seems to be in favour of keeping all the novels. I'm not going to post any more here, since I'm not in the habit of nagging -- I'll just wait and see, and accept whatever the site admins come up with. I suggest you do the same.

Post #667090 - Reply to (#667089) by calstine
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I can suggest whatever I want, and so can you.


It was just a suggestion.

Post #667091
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While this site is called Manga Updates, I completely agree with these proposed changes.

Those who want doujins or novels can set up Novel Updates or Doujin Updates or whatever.

Not accepting anything whose source is self-published online seems like a good idea as well. Let there be a preliminary market filter before it is inflicted on the English speaking audience.

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8:02 am, Jun 15 2015
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Please, please do not remove novels and webtoons, this is the only way to know when they're updated and if something new has been translated. A simple fix would be to add a Genre group for novels and webtoons, that way people that don't want to view them can simply filter them out. Again please do not do this.

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100% agree. This is mangaupdates for fucks sake.

Post #667096 - Reply to (#667078) by sarangX33
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8:34 am, Jun 15 2015
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same, keep the novels

Post #667099 - Reply to (#667082) by PROzess
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8:52 am, Jun 15 2015
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Shall we also remove all manhua and manhwa as well then? Since this is MANGAupdates.

OTOH, I agree with the sentiment in the context of removing novels (if it is going to be done regardless). If you're going to start removing novel submissions while keeping others based on certain specifications, removing all of them would make more sense.

Post #667100 - Reply to (#667091) by cmertb
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Not accepting anything whose source is self-published online seems like a good idea as well.


Yeah, let's remove all the webcomics!
The Gamer? Get lost!
Soul Cartel? You still here??
Noblesse? Who needs it!
I don't read any of them, so I think this is a great idea!

Do you have any idea where this will lead? "It's not Novel Updates, it's Manga Updates." "Lets remove Manhwa next. I mean, it's Manga Updates. What are they doing here?"

Well, I'm not really worried about the future of this site. Let them remove the novels if they want to. I will probably remove MU from my bookmarks and homepage the same day, but who cares. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this will kill MU...

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I both agree and don't agree. First ya I can see not adding any new LN or WN to the site without it having a manga related to it but I don't think that the already existing LN and WN should be removed. That would be the best way to please everyone I think but that is just my opinion.

Also for those who said remove everything but manga that includes SAO, Log Horizon, Slayers, Full Metal Panic, High School DxD and a bunch more that I don't feel like listing.

As for webcomics I can't stand reading them since they are like 4 koma which I also can't stand to read.

As for the Doujin, that can be removed in my opinion since it is all ether rape or yaoi my two most hated categories.

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Post #667102 - Reply to (#667100) by Draconic
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Are they self-published amateur works? If not, then you're barking up the wrong tree.

In response to some others, let's not descend into absurdity. In a site dedicated to manga, it is perfectly acceptable to have manga related content. The original proposal even allows for manga based novels, not to mention manhua and manhwa.

But how are self-published original online novels related to manga? This is a good place to draw the line, even if it's somehow inconvenient to you. Otherwise, for my own convenience, let's also start indexing j-drama fansubs. And I'm sure someone will want anime too. What's the problem with that? If you don't like it, filter it out.

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I would like to see a focus on manga again. I think novels need a separate website. When I look at the series stats, and see that the list is overwhelmed by novels, this website becomes useless to me as a manga reader.

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You should allow printed Light Novels to be added to the site regardless if any chapters are translated or not.

Also have Holy'bell decided yet if non Japanese mangaka who are getting published by Japanese publishers in Japanese are allowed or not?

Post #667105 - Reply to (#667104) by Indekkusu
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9:30 am, Jun 15 2015
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The guy who does Freezing is not Japanese

Post #667106 - Reply to (#667102) by cmertb
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If you don't like it, filter it out.


Esactly. Mind telling me what's the relationship between "filtering them out" and "removing them"?

Manga based novels? Can't say I haven't seen one or two, but it's usually the other way around...
And what will they do, if they remove a novel, and the next week it's manga adaptation is announced?

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Post #667107 - Reply to (#667106) by Draconic
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You mean you agree with adding drama, anime, and games to this site, and let the users sort it out with their filters? OK...

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