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12:27 am, Jul 11 2015
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This week's poll suggestion came from our member Doris Day, whose only post in the forums is with this suggestion! How often do you like the appearances and/or clothing of your characters to change? For many series, the character's uniform is very iconic. Then you have the slice of life series where his/her clothing changes basically every chapter. Kinda interesting to see a character's fashion sense...

You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related)
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Question: How do you feel when a mangaka makes different characters look/act the same between different, unrelated series?
Choices:
Ruins it for me - votes: 571 (6.7%)
A little confusing - votes: 1837 (21.5%)
Annoying or boring - votes: 2478 (28.9%)
Perfectly fine about it - votes: 1228 (14.3%)
Don't care - votes: 2450 (28.6%)
There were 8564 total votes.
The poll ended: July 11th 2015

I'm actually surprised that more people found it annoying than not caring. Usually the "don't care" crowd gets a lot of votes

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To me, it makes sense that characters in slice-of-life manga may change clothes and hairstyles every day, or that they would wear different clothes for different occasions.

If the story takes place in an apocalyptic wasteland, maybe it would not make sense that characters change clothes frequently (unless it was an element of the story: somehow they need to disguise themselves to survive, etc.).

Anyway, the good thing of characters wearing the same clothes is that they become iconic, they are immediately recognisable. The bad thing is that it reduces the range of means they have to express their character.

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2:24 am, Jul 11 2015
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One extremely important point based off one of the recent polls: some artists can only draw a very limited number of distinct character looks, with the rest of the differences defined by their hair color/style and outfit. If that is the case, any change in character appearance is confusing as hell, and so the author should stick with the same appearance throughout the entire series.

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4:44 am, Jul 11 2015
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Nice to see that only 6.7% find "clones" game breaking. On a related note:
The web constantly complains how we are doing remakes and clones of other movies only these days but Ben-Hur (1959) is a remake and these were the most common thing in the Silent Era. Movie characters didn't start to cross over with Superhero flicks too. Sitcoms are famous for that and the Silent Era (Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein from 1948) did it too so we aren´t in that different a position than nearly a century ago.
Most of TV is set in the Tommy Westphall Universe anyway.

I'm okay with several changes within the same arc, but let's not go crazy is diplomatic even if animation studios won´t like it and only the most lazy of artists would make choice No.1 possible. Clothes and outfits show adhere to some form of logic as let´ say the chains and magnet Guts uses to carry and swing his sword, Batman or Ninja should choose a darker color pallet, high heels in a scenario of constant action are just retarded and dressing up 16 year old girls as skimpy prostitutes who are as pure as fresh snow form a characters standpoint lastly has my permission to die. What i really hate btw. are plot important haircuts when they lead to direct change immediately. So lazy. So dumb.

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4:57 am, Jul 11 2015
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Well, I'm ok if character is still recognizable, but mangaka shouldn't overdo it. It's not like everyone wears different clothes everyday even in real life, it should really depend on character in question and circumstances...

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....mistake.... sry

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6:13 am, Jul 11 2015
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The same clothes throughout the manga is not too cool. Changing only after a long timeskip is also not the best. I appreciate Oda's method of changing outfits between arcs. Not only do the characters get multiple outfits, we can also associate different outfits with different story arcs. Naruto was so lame in this regard. Shounen action manga suffer from this issue.

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7:43 am, Jul 11 2015
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Man, after a long time a poll gave me trouble on what to choose...
After thinking alot, I picked up - I'm okay with several changes within the same arc, but let's not go crazy...

To be precise, I can't care less about clothing, outfit...hell they can even change those three times a day...
Now, you don't change your appearance regularly...So, the point, “ Every day that passes should be a new look! Like real life! ”, is LAME...
Real life ?! Huh...seriously ??
Are you into some rough makeup ? Going to Beauty Parlour regularly ?
Characters of the Mangas' I read, aren't into these things...
Well...whatever...grown up man don't change appearance before passage of a significant time...shaving do gives man a fresh new look, but, that's still time to times...So, RL isn't that simple!!

Hmm... 0.3% more people found it annoying or boring than don't care...I/We can live with that...^^

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7:59 am, Jul 11 2015
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I actually hate it when the characters have the same clothes and hair all the time.
For a slice of life type manga, it's especially important to have variety.

If it's an action/adventure type manga, I don't mind infrequent changes...
As long as there actually are some. >__>

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"Only change appearances to signify the passage of a lot of time "

This.

Having characters change their clothes/appearance (too) often is idiotic. Theres no reason to do so other than 'to change things up'. Every time theres a change, everyone from the audience to the artist(s) needs to relearn and readjust to the new appearance.

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2:20 pm, Jul 11 2015
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I choose "Maybe a change between every story arc is fine". I guess this is mainly regarding shounen and seinen manga; i didnt choose the first cause it is pretty lame to see one outfit the entire series even if time passes. Even DBZ who the majority of the characters where the same thing (cause its their combat clothes) has moments of casual outfits. the second choice is the same as the first essentially cause will only see a change if theres a time skip which could be extremely long away. Just look at how long away was One Pieces time skip. Everyday would just be too much and annoying for the author unless its some slice of life type stuff but still they usually are in a school setting. Several in one arc is still excessive so yea maybe every arc is pretty good. I feel like a good example of who did this was sasuke in naruto. He pretty much changed outfits the most in the series but it was subtle and mainly during every arc change.

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2:34 pm, Jul 11 2015
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I went with "I'm okay with several changes within the same arc, but let's not go crazy," but what I actually think is that clothing changes should make sense in relation to the manga's setting.

If a manga has a school setting, for example, I expect to see everyone wearing school uniforms while at school plus after school on days they have school and casual clothing on days they do not have school regardless of if it is a day off or a holiday. Clothing should also be season appropriate where we don't see fall/winter uniforms in the spring just because it would be more convenient for the artist to not have to draw different clothing.

Adult characters with jobs likewise probably would wear a lot of the same/similar things but likewise should have other clothing for other activities. I don't want to see the main character's mom wearing high heels and a skirt while she's doing gardening.

Having a different battle outfit every time practically works in Cardcaptor Sakura but a lot of other manga, including other magical girl manga, having just one battle outfit makes sense... especially if you have a whole team of magical girls going to battle as increasing numbers also becomes prohibitive towards a whole closet just full of battle outfits.


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This one was hard, because it depends entirely on the series and genre. Anything where characters would have a "uniform" (military, police, ninja forces, high school slice-of-life, etc) I expect the same look the whole way through, with minor changes over very long time periods. On the other hand, an office comedy or college slice-of-life, I'd expect to see a cycle of outfits (major props to an artist who would give guys about a dozen t-shirts and actually repeat them (this never happens, btw.))

Nisekoi is one of the best examples of realistic clothing changes I can think of.

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I also agree with this. A uniform or a rotating style in the normal setting. Then for specific occasions something else might be worn. You notice when somebody goes outside their normal rotation sphere at work, so any major changes would prompt a scene in Slice of life.

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Quote from KioJonny
On the other hand, an office comedy or college slice-of-life, I'd expect to see a cycle of outfits (major props to an artist who would give guys about a dozen t-shirts and actually repeat them (this never happens, btw.))

Nisekoi is one of the best examples of realistic clothing changes I can think of.


Beck comes pretty close when it comes to that t-shirt thing as I do remember them wearing a different shirt each day. I don't remember if any of the t-shirts repeated as it's been a while since I've read this one (and at 34 volumes, there's going to be other things I want to read first before I pick it up again.)


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