If this is in the wrong section please move,
Since I don't use the filter, I don't know much about them. I have a question what happens when a series your reading genre gets changed to something you've filtered. Are there safeguards for this? Do you check it manually? Do you assume that it hasn't been released? Do you just stop reading it? Do you change your filters? I'm just wondering.

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I don't really use filters either, but I'm not exactly sure about how can a series just suddenly change genres!
I only use one filter, and I'm also pretty confident that nothing I'm reading will suddenly change to it. So no worries.
Where you'd be at risk is if you filter stuff like ecchi, fantasy, shonen/ shoujo or action for example. But I don't really see why you'd want to filter that... and if you do well just assume your choices simple as that.
But well it's true that it might be good idea to check if a series you have on your reading list is affected by your active filters and notify the user if it happens.

*shrugs*

I filter shounen-ai, yaoi, and shoutacon so if any of the titles I'm reading switches to that, I wouldn't care.

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I've been well aware of this potential problem since we introduced filtering. For now I keep a log of who edits what on the series page, so if something bad happens, i know exactly who to ban when people complain.

I'm thinking about the possibility of "Locking" series once their information comes to a certain point as to which their information can be considered completed. What does everyone else think of this suggestion?

nuff said.

At first thought it sounds like a good idea, but what if you add a new feature or a locked series has incorrect information or if it's reprinted? I sound kind of like a pessimist.

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A person can always file a change request and we could do it...By "locking", Manick is talking about regular users, not admins.

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Completely locking it WOULD probably be a bad idea. But perhaps after having a certain number of volumes or releases for a series, it could require admin approval for changes. Or something along those lines. I don't know how often established series get updated. Or locking only certain attributes might be better. Certain things (should) never change, such as Author, Year, Genre, etc. But certain things are expected that they might change in the future. Such as Status in Country of Origin, Licensed stuff, and even Serialized In often changes late in a series.

But even those could change. For instance in very old series the information of original publification sometimes is incorrect or some series can start say as shoujo and end up josey….or have an adult content suddenly in later volumes and the author could be added wrongly too, so you really can’t lock. One could probably make change through the admins, through request, buuut that would add more work for admins and would make the whole "user-enter data" things somewhat pointless, at least that’s how I understand it.

But thats why I suggested they just switch to admin approval. Because they shouldn't change, but in those rare circumstances, they may still need to change.

I'd say that if alot of problems don't start popping up, don't lock anything.

Best example. a few days ago i changed NHK from ecchi to mature. Even though it is a very popular series and already has about 6 volumes it wasn't correctly labled. And there is the normal problem of new chapters changing the corect labels. I think EDEN had its first sex scene in volume 8.

EDIT: this thread should be moved to suggestions

Last edited by bully_jesus at 3:45 pm, Mar 7 2007

Technically speaking, Eden was mature from volume 1 though. IIRC, there was nudity and a BJ from volume 1.

As for NHK, I don't know if ecchi is necessarily wrong of a category. While I won't argue that it has some mature themes, I can't think of too much it does on a regular basis thats necessarily bad or that would make it considered mature as a genre. But thats another arguement all together.

I mean, as a whole, I don't think series have drastic changes. Unless of course, the series is very long running, and the audiences it is directed towards is growing. Sort of like the trend in some long shoujo and shounen manga to get more realistic and less idealistic as they go on longer. Your initial audience may be innocent middle school kids when your series starts. But 5 years down the line, they're young adults.

But then again, at the same time, it brings up the arguement of the fact that genre interpretation is subjective. A good example of this is Star wars. It may seem like an odd example, but theres always the arguement over whether its sci-fi or fantasy. Your average innocent on looker would probably label it as sci-fi. But when it really comes down to the nitty gritty, its just a fantasy series that takes place in space. So would you categorize it as fantasy? Would you categorize it as sci-fi? Would you categorize it as both?

I agree with bully_jesus that its not really an issue unless problems start popping up. But, at the same time I think that if it would be relatively simple to prevent from ever happening, then why not fill the hole?

Of course, another solution to this problem would be just to make it so that series on your reading lists always show up regardless of filters. Or something along those lines.

I think that's the most doable thing at the moment. Thanks for the suggestion.

Actually, upon reflecting and getting pissed I realize that some should be locked because of unnecessary changes, like change covers to there english counterpart (and usually inferior in quality) or changing perfectly fine descriptions to publisher's descriptions. If you did start locking series I could stop putting notes in the description.

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I've noticed the thing about the covers too and i agree usually english counterpart is inferior, also is it possible to put max char limit input for the descriptions? Some of those are as long as one a4 page (sometimes more), I was wondering if people were feeling comfortable reading such large texts?