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SliceA1A
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As posted before, Evolution is a theory supported by factual evidence. Evolution will always be a theory, since it is theoretical that new fossils can be found, as well as modern forms of life evolving (i.e. bacteria and other microbes).

Gravity is also a theory in the same sense. The only way to make the Theory of Gravity into a Scientific Law is to launch a probe far away enough to view the entire universe and record the movements of all heavenly bodies. At that point in time, we can determine at what rate these bodies travel around gravity points and make concrete calculations that can predict the future movements of gravitic bodies. VOILA! Scientific Law! Of course, since the universe is constantly expanding, the probe will have to widen its perceptions constantly to maintain total observation, and when it can no longer observe the entire universe, we slip back into the realm of theory.

I live in a community where most people believe in creationism. Discussing evolution around here is like giving Jesus the finger. I never understood why believers feel that evolution is such a great threat, since astronomy and geology have done a wonderful job smashing biblical creationism.

For more information visit this link to YouTube

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BS5vid4GkEY&feature=PlayLi st&p=AC3481305829426D&index=0&playnext=1

icecold
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men was created in gods image. but sadly with a couple million years of evolution we are far from that now

xtr3m3dude
Post #173970 - Reply to (#173964) by SliceA1A
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I live in a community where most people believe in creationism. Discussing evolution around here is like giving Jesus the finger. I never understood why believers feel that evolution is such a great threat, since astronomy and geology have done a wonderful job smashing biblical creationism.

Well in any case. Whether evolution is a theory or a fact doesn't change the fact that is a whole lot more believable than creationism theories...
What bothers me the most is how some people always blame science first. I mean I am absolutely sure that there is 100+ religions with creationism theories that contradict each other to no end. Why not leave science alone and bash some of the more ridiculous theories instead. Tom Cruise can't sue the whole world dammit.

Heres some more info on evolution:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/03/0308_060308 _evolution.html

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Post #173988 - Reply to (#173967) by icecold
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men was created in gods image. but sadly with a couple million years of evolution we are far from that now


So you're saying god is some creepy sub-simian monkeyesque thing? Or a single celled bacterium bigrazz

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swlsqkAyxqY&feature=u ser
EVOLUTION DOESNT EXIST bigrazz lol

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Identity Crisis
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Humans are rather underdeveloped, we don't have many answers, most things are based on hoping that they are right.

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Quote from thezombieking
Humans are rather underdeveloped, we don't have many answers, most things are based on hoping that they are right.

Actually most things we know are based on observations.
Of course we can't completely explain absolutely everything, but you have to admit that humanity has made quite a bit of progress in the past century. Scientists in this day and age do not just "hope that they are right". They make observations and conduct experiments to prove their hypotheses. Have you ever written a science report like this:
"...and therefore I hope that electricity exists."
I think not...

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Quote from xtr3m3dude
Quote from thezombieking
Humans are rather underdeveloped, we don't have many answers, most things are based on hoping that they are right.

Actually most things we know are based on observations.
Of course we can't completely explain absolutely everything, but you have to admit that humanity has made quite a bit of progress in the past century. Scientists in this day and age do not just "hope that they are right". They make observations and conduct experiments to prove their hypotheses. Have you ever written a science report like this:
"...and therefore I hope that electricity exists."
I think not...


no no, thats not what i meant lol

i meant by "hoping they are right" that because at times, our science isn't advanced enough to prove or get a reason for something, we are just hoping we have it right.

maybe i misunderstood what you meant by that and i just proved it, idk...

Correct me if i am wrong, but just because we think we know things, that doesn't mean that it cant be wrong and proved diff when we have better tech and such?

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Post #174023 - Reply to (#173964) by SliceA1A
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Quote from SliceA1A
As posted before, Evolution is a theory supported by factual evidence. Evolution will always be a theory, since it is theoretical that new fossils can be found, as well as modern forms of life evolving (i.e. bacteria and other microbes).

Gravity is also a theory in the same sense. The only way to make the Theory of Gravity into a Scientific Law is to launch a probe far away enough to view the entire universe and record the movements of all heavenly bodies. At that point in time, we can determine at what rate these bodies travel around gravity points and make concrete calculations that can predict the future movements of gravitic bodies. VOILA! Scientific Law! Of course, since the universe is constantly expanding, the probe will have to widen its perceptions constantly to maintain total observation, and when it can no longer observe the entire universe, we slip back into the realm of theory.

I live in a community where most people believe in creationism. Discussing evolution around here is like giving Jesus the finger. I never understood why believers feel that evolution is such a great threat, since astronomy and geology have done a wonderful job smashing biblical creationism.

For more information visit this link to YouTube

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BS5vid4GkEY&feature=PlayLi st&p=AC3481305829426D&index=0&playnext=1



It simply give thought out when suggestion about evolution. Everything that is believe would be false cause if this is wrong, maybe everything else could be wrong . So in a sense it is a protective barrier which won't allow any fault or sway toward other or the "book".

also i answer no because choosing this would be rather from interest then any "evidents". I insecure about something so big that i cannot answer toooooo lesssssss knowledge. But fun topic to talk about.

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The probability of life happening by chance is so astronomical that it seems unbelievable. I read some where that if you took all the carbon in the universe and put it on the face of the earth allowed it to chemically react at the most rapid rate possible and left it for a billion years the odds of creating just one functional protein molecule would be one chance in a 10 with 60 zeros after it. Intelligent design and evolution don't have to be mutually exclusive.

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Just for emphasis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swlsqkAyxqY&feature=u ser
Evolution= FAKE lol

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I would say evolution is not a faith, due to the fact that it doesn't give guidelines as to how you should live your life. If any thing would be a faith it would be science, and due to the fact that it is a faith. If anything is a faith, it would be science. Evolution would be just another teaching that we should believe if we were to follow the science faith.

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Post #174154 - Reply to (#174032) by Zubz313
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The probability of life happening by chance is so astronomical that it seems unbelievable. I read some where that if you took all the carbon in the universe and put it on the face of the earth allowed it to chemically react at the most rapid rate possible and left it for a billion years the odds of creating just one functional protein molecule would be one chance in a 10 with 60 zeros after it. Intelligent design and evolution don't have to be mutually exclusive.


Evolution is not random nor is it driven by chance. These are tactics used by creationists to tell the uneducated masses that evolution is so improbable it must be impossible. Also, evolutionary theory doesn't cover or speculate on how life originated; it only focuses on how life changes over time due to environmental pressure.

Evolution and ID are mutually exclusive. ID is creationism under a different name.
Here is a link of a documentary focusing on the Dover trial where ID got its scrawny ass handed back to it.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/program.html

The creation story in Genesis is not a reliable source for scientific theory, simply because the modern translations of the story are not compatible with the ancient texts. One glaring contradiction is the original story of how Eve was created by a single rib. The original Hebrew tells how God split Adam in half to make both man and woman. If this entry had made it into the Greek translations, then Christianity would not have had such an anti-woman history. Well, unless people read Deuteronomy 22. biggrin

Quote from xtr3m3dude
Well in any case. Whether evolution is a theory or a fact doesn't change the fact that is a whole lot more believable than creationism theories...
What bothers me the most is how some people always blame science first. I mean I am absolutely sure that there is 100+ religions with creationism theories that contradict each other to no end. Why not leave science alone and bash some of the more ridiculous theories instead. Tom Cruise can't sue the whole world dammit.


I think people attack science first because it is the greatest threat. It's easy to look at another religion and say "My myth is better than your myth" and rely on blind faith to carry you through. If people want to debunk evolution it will require an enormous effort based on scientific work to counter even a few facts laid out by evolutionary theorists.

Last edited by lambchopsil at 5:00 pm, Jun 30

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Post #174301 - Reply to (#174154) by SliceA1A
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The probability of life happening by chance is so astronomical that it seems unbelievable. I read some where that if you took all the carbon in the universe and put it on the face of the earth allowed it to chemically react at the most rapid rate possible and left it for a billion years the odds of creating just one functional protein molecule would be one chance in a 10 with 60 zeros after it. Intelligent design and evolution don't have to be mutually exclusive.


Evolution is not random nor is it driven by chance. These are tactics used by creationists to tell the uneducated masses that evolution is so improbable it must be impossible. Also, evolutionary theory doesn't cover or speculate on how life originated; it only focuses on how life changes over time due to environmental pressure.

Evolution and ID are mutually exclusive. ID is creationism under a different name.
Here is a link of a documentary focusing on the Dover trial where ID got its scrawny ass handed back to it.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/program.html

The creation story in Genesis is not a reliable source for scientific theory, simply because the modern translations of the story are not compatible with the ancient texts. One glaring contradiction is the original story of how Eve was created by a single rib. The original Hebrew tells how God split Adam in half to make both man and woman. If this entry had made it into the Greek translations, then Christianity would not have had such an anti-woman history. Well, unless people read Deuteronomy 22. biggrin

Can you give some sources here? Your saying all this and you have no hard evidence.

And that documentary is crap. Anyone can make something seem true because they want it to. They take information and only use what will support their argument and trash the rest. That isn't exclusive to evolutionists though. If your going to make a report give all the facts not just the ones that help your case.

Xeronia
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8:26 pm, Jun 30 2008
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The truth is, evolution isn't a faith. It doesn't have the characteristics of a faith and never will. As a theory, it is a questionable, controversial fact that questions the validity of some beliefs of some faiths. Truth is, many people stretch their own faith so that it fits evolution.

For example Seven Days of Creation doesn't necessarily mean seven of our days. Seven God-days could mean seven billion of our years.

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