Quote from Rezard
Take it easy, I don't mean to defend Japan, but I don't think USA is the saint some people here are defending. The problem is that I get pissed off easily when some americans say their country saved everybody during WWII. The truth is the allied forces (all of then) saved the day. Russia did a very important job breaking down the german army before Day D, some say (I agree) it was the turning point in the war.
What I was condenming was people saying the bombs were an act of mercy, the best solution was to vaporize civilians. I think it was just to save money and the lifes of American soldiers. I think there could be a better solution at the time, but again, it was war, not somekind of plaything.
...but to say it was an act of god, a fair revenge, it is a bit much.
BTW, I agree that Japan rewrites history and I don't like totalitarism.
I've already contended that, when compared with the
only viable alternative, that being a full-scale invasion of the Japanese mainland, vaporizing civilians was indeed an act of mercy.
If anyone's tried to portray the US as "saints", I must have missed their post. Rest assured that as an American, I've no "city on a hill" delusions about American altruism, goodness, or any such thing. The fact that the decision to use the bomb was made more out of a desire to save American lives, demonstrate US power, and prevent the Soviets from gaining a foothold in Japan than out of any consideration for the Japanese doesn't change the fact that the bomb, evil as it was, was the decidedly lesser of two evils. The fact is, Japan got off easy.
Quote from MizuiroMegami
Everybody hates the United States, and i personally don't blame them. we talk big and blow up other countries..plus our big ego's. we're the most xenophobic country..even though we supposedly "accept" other cultures....yeah right. because of my asian and native-american descent...plus my love for other cultures, people in my school outcast me.
The most xenophobic country in the world? Funny, I could have sworn we were easily one of, if not the most diverse country in the world, with the possible exception of Brazil. Obviously many in this country are neither tolerant or accepting of other cultures or peoples, but take almost any culture, and you'd be hard-pressed to find a country (excluding, obviously, countries in which said culture is part of the mainstream) more accepting of it than the US. We have damn near everything and everyone here. Personally, I think that's a great thing.
Yeah, there's racism and xenophobia, and it sucks. I'm black; we've only been catching that shit here for about the last 400 years, give or take. But I'd take slave trade-era America over Nazi Germany or Tojo's Japan any day. At least I'd have a chance to survive living in the former, as opposed to ending up as someone's lampshade or taxidermy project.
Note that none of this is to deny or gloss over America's crimes. Generally, however, the US will at least admit to its historical wrongdoings, unlike Japan.
Quote from MizuiroMegami
So Japan did a lot of crap.....so what, i will always think that the US is the worst...
Well, you're welcome to your opinion, however silly it may be.
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