now i just wondering, why dont u guys from baka updates crew submit about your website at wikipedia? well, u could tell the history bout baka updates, the founder, how u guys envolve to be the biggest manga information website etc.

that would be cool
i think you'd be one of the first scanslation orientated articles about websites

i think bout writing it but i dont know how to write article in wikipedia. also i know nothing bout this website history.

That's an interesting idea... I've thought about it before, but what's always stopped me is the fact that I know nothing about wikipedia really..

haha. me to. then how bout ask any member to do it? you could provide the information. or else ask your friend.

I can't say that I am a wikipedia-leet but i think i know enough about it to at least start an article as a stub so you can complete it. Just gimme the info... I'd of course prefer a text that's ready to go.

However I don't know if this site has enough "encyclopedic value" for wikipedia... One can always try.

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Yeah, I'm quite the wiki maniac myself, but from what I know about wikipedia, is that they are usually elitist jerks...
If they consider the subject as not "noticeable", they'll just delete it.
But meh... nothing can stop us from trying right?
and if they delete it, well nothing we can do about it... well we'll just try to argue with the best we could. You'd just need to prove that MU (and BU) are worthy of attention.

P.S. but seriously I don't know... am I the only one that thinks that we shouldn't really attract unnecessary attention to the scanlation community?

I tried adding a link to b-u manga once in the manga article.. but a guy that works for ann deleted it .. :-/ something to the effect of "questionable content".

Well there is a link to B-U manga in the scanlation article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanlation#External_links

Well, the site is really worth mentioning. It has helped me out several times and I visit at least once a day. Great job!

I suppose this has become less of a suggestion thread, but I don't think Manga-Updates needs approval from people that read about it on Wikipedia. If a person finds the site and goes "wow, lots of info about manga with summaries and info about the manga's releases" I think that's great approval/acknowledge already (I'm not a person that built the site from the pixel up though ;)). Besides, I think people will find Manga-Updates eventually will find it on his or her own (not to mention that people on Baka-Updates might have a clue that Manga-Updates is around ). And with the info on Wikipedia, someone could distort the info. It could be corrected, but somebody has to catch it. Here are some screen caps that I happen to find in a humour thread somewhere else. I'm guessing if one person screwed up the info, that person got (ISP) banned.



There are credible sources on Wikipedia, but I think I would be more likely to check out Manga-Updates (if I didn't know about it already) if I found out from someone's blog that I liked than Wiki. I think for the thread "How did you get here?" "search engine" and "Lurk" was mentioned several times (or it might be that I found M-U through through Lurk and so my view is distorted...but I do remember the link being posted there quite often when someone is sort of lost looking up manga scanslation info).

And although for the most part I feel that Manga-Updates runs similar to Animemusicvideos.org, I do remember I think Aku-tenshi (or some group starting with "A"... ^^U) had a mangaka that wanted all the info about his manga stripped off the site--no pictures and no summaries, like I guess the group had never released it at all and like the manga didn't exist. (When I searched through their projects page in the dropped and discontinued ones, I couldn't find a manga matching that description, so I don't know if it got removed too.)

I don't know if Manga-Updates would have to worry to such an extent that Animemusicvideos.org does after Wind-Up Records contacted them in November 2006 (if I recall correctly, and one would probably know what happened if they looked for an AMV with Evanescence or Creed music used), and be asked or have to do something like the example I mentioned above.

I guess the worse thing that happens is that for the downloads to be taken off (whatever company that is yelling at us doesn't like us distributing it and picks on us because there's a Paypal button with the word "donate" on it too. An even more extreme example), and I guess that all the images of the manga covers get deleted off the site? That would assume that whatever party that comes after us just wants the copyrighted stuff off of Manga-Updates instead of going as far as the RIAA/record companies. I don't know if the summaries could get deleted because the company accused the site of copyright violation, but I could only see this if the summary was a direct translation of what was written on the back of the book or somewhere on it. I think the majority have to be written by users because other than a handful that are translated from the backs of manga covers and a fair bunch that are licensed companies' summaries, person has to make the summary him- or herself. (I don't like some summaries of manga I've read that Viz or TokyoPop have done).

I think this would be really extreme, but if the company wanted to be like the RIAA, they could accuse Manga-Updates of being like a P2P or bittorrent site with all the links of all these groups that scanslate and distribute (I think the scare might force more people underground just like with music and such) even without the download links. Bittorent is legal, and I think P2P is legal, but I'm sure companies would jump at the chance to have them so they aren't legal because then it would probably be the end of the pirating (well, except for the really small ways like a friend borrows a CD from Friend B...then again they are screwing up CDs that so that along with no being able to copy then, the original CD can't even be listened to because the the protection method so maybe we'll all have to go back to the radios or buying lots of CDs for 1 track. We get to be set-back to the 1970s or 1980s. ).

Anyhow, I think I'm done mentioning my extreme example of how things can go wrong for Manga-Updates. But the funny thing is, maybe Baka-Updates would have to be worried more since the DVD and film media seem to be biting more than the printing industry? *knocks on wood in hopes any day like mentioned above NEVER happens*

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My biggest attempt to combat that is by adding the series/authors/publishers parts of the site, and trying to move the site to more of an informational database rather than a scanlation database.

I realize that the site is on a thin line of legality. The simple fact of the matter is, someone, somewhere, is going to make a site that does this no matter who sues who. If by some twist of fate, MU, MJ, and DM were to go down, some other sites would pick up where they left off (perhaps a bunch), and the world would keep spinning.

For the moment, we are advantageous to the manga industry because we increase its popularity in different countries. I suspect that eventually, we will become a target.

Oh my, I guess better safe than sorry?
I agree that people who like scanlations and manga will find this site anyway.

By the way, I know what MU and MJ are, but DM?

dailymanga.org

It's a french site, but it's pretty good.

Well, don't be afraid that it's a French site. You can change it to English by clicking the British flag on the site (may have to click it a few times)

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