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Polyamory?
I accept and participate in it
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Post #360316 - Reply to (#360124) by APOKOLYPES
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Why have two women you can't satisfy? That just means twice the yelling and nagging about how lousy you are. My guess is that polygamists are all masochists.

I wonder how you would feel about more than one husband then smile wink grin At least in general the stereotype is that men are easier to satisfy (i think it's true). Wouldn't it be useful then to have more than one husband if everyone can get along?


i remember seeing a discovery documentary about an indigenous culture that did not practice the concept of marriage - every night/week or whenever men and women would switch partners

towards the end of the show though, younger males in this tribe of people that had been exposed to western society began to exhibit aggressive jealously (something their culture had not experienced before evidently) - and the tribe leader was quoted saying that he believed this was a sign of the end of their culture's ways

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I can't wrap my brain around it.

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Post #550829 - Reply to (#360316) by APOKOLYPES
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i remember seeing a discovery documentary about an indigenous culture that did not practice the concept of marriage - every night/week or whenever men and women would switch partners

towards the end of the show though, younger males in this tribe of people that had been exposed to western society ...


yeah that was some native american tribe and surprise: the young men thougth it was better not having to share with other men.

I remember reading about a study recently. its result said more and more people go to notarys to make specialised marriage-contracts involving more than two persons, without being married in the ordinary sense with set rights and obligations. I don't remember who made the study though.

I don't think polygamy will detach monogamy at any point but it's still not that far fetched. remember that japanese dude who married his 2D-GF

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I've read too many manga so I no longer have any qualms.... id be fine with interspecies marriage as long as the thing could talk and consented. An overwhelming number of sweet romances with odd setups has turned my mind into something way too accepting. So polygamy/polyamory is tame in comparison to what id accept... heck id be fine with 1 guy marrying 3 guys or 1 chick with 3 chicks.. wtf is that named confused
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Why have two women you can't satisfy? That just means twice the yelling and nagging about how lousy you are. My guess is that polygamists are all masochists.

its quite possible to keep 2 women satisfied on a sexual level if that's what you're refering to. As long as you are accustomed to their weak points, and use toys to fill in the gaps of your short comings it'll be easy... also have to keep urself stocked with zinc and a few other suppliments along with a fairly large intake of water.... as for other levels... don't attempt this unless you're rather wealthy

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I don't get how people could participate in a polyamorous relationship, but there are plenty of things I don't understand for various reasons. I can't imaging denying any of those things, or denying others them, simply because of my own inadequacies. As long as it's lawful and doesn't abuse my own moral beliefs (which are very loose so I don't see how it could), I'm fine with it. It's your life, your relationship, and I have no right to say anything about it.

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Well.....look at china and how it came out to be o.o. Since in the past centuries many males in china had many wives, my grandfather had 9 wives and i have a lot of cousins lol, i don't hate it but i like my family, my father had 2 wives. I'm good with my family.


P.S. i am Chinese.

Post #550866 - Reply to (#550862) by MrStriker210
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Well.....look at china and how it came out to be o.o. Since in the past centuries many males in china had many wives, my grandfather had 9 wives and i have a lot of cousins lol, i don't hate it but i like my family, my father had 2 wives. I'm good with my family.


P.S. i am Chinese.


I'm kind of wondering how this works in China today, because isn't there more men than women? I could understand if it worked the other way around.

Anyways, I don't have anything against polygamous or polyamorous relationships granted that everyone consents and respects each other. It is possible to love one than one person at a time. Also, it may be that one person doesn't fully satisfy your needs (not just sexual needs, but also emotional ones) so you have another person that you can go to.

Post #550868 - Reply to (#550866) by KaoriNite
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I'm kind of wondering how this works in China today, because isn't there more men than women? I could understand if it worked the other way around.

Anyways, I don't have anything against polygamous or polyamorous relationships granted that everyone consents and respects each other. It is possible ...



Well you see...i am unsure about the ratio of men to woman in china and the population count of women or men. I guess karma worked it out for them to have a lot of females? :S
I mean.. because chinese families usually want males as their children probably to carry on traditions etc. if you get what i'm saying but maybe life worked backwards and gave the families who wanted male children females?biggrin~~ work of god...

and what KaoriNite said..I am neither on both sides.

idk but its my opinion that: I guess one day or another people will just "HAVE" to accept it just like they have accepted everything else.

Post #550869 - Reply to (#360316) by APOKOLYPES
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i remember seeing a discovery documentary about an indigenous culture that did not practice the concept of marriage - every night/week or whenever men and women would switch partners

towards the end of the show though, younger males in this tribe of people that had been exposed to western society ...


I doubt jealously didn't exist before. fact is I've seen lots of stuff on tribes that supposedly don't have marriages and fact is that they still tend to have long term relationships. Even in a culture where the people didn't have to start a new family, they would see each other for a long time.

but that's the other thing, if you were talking about a primitive culture, it's a lot tougher to not get children out of sex. Children wouldn't benefit as well from having their parents still in such a loose arrangement.

This is partially about the multiple guy scenario: More than likely people have to settle for a multiple marriage. If it was one lady and two guys, than one or the other is probably settling, especially if they don't have other wives themselves. And you usually don't see that in any culture that does have polygamy which I think shows an inequality in the situation. Also it's not like women are insatiable. Some women want less sex, and having two different guys wanting might be a problem. So might a threesome(or excluding someone from one).

I can't really add to the poll though because of the way it's phrased. To me, it wouldn't be a better system. It certainly doesn't sound appealing. But it's not like anyone can stop people from living together if they choose to, or have an open marriage or whatever.

But it really has nothing to do with the gay issue. The sad thing is that the same things that make gay relationships okay are used by a lot of fringe groups like pedophiles and beastiality people. That their consenting or want it or whatever, but lacking the fact that they aren't adults(sometimes not even close) or human. I can only guess someone threw polygamy there at some point.

From a legal perspective, marriage in the west has been about passing down wealth to a legitimate heir, so it wouldn't make sense for their to be multiple. It's why some ancient rich, powerful people had mistresses(sometimes only one) but only one wife.

-talking about relationships in general-

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I don't get why everyone's so focused on being in a relationship. The desperation of being in one is a clear sign that you're not supposed to be in one. Co-dependency. A relationship only works with two people fully content with being alone/independent.


Jooles is imaging something from people wanting a relationship(extrapolating the smallest number as the largest). That aside, 99% of people AREN'T CONTENT BEING ALONE. It goes against human nature. People are in relationships with their friends, family, and romantic relationships are one aspect of that. It doesn't make sense to treat it so independently. the way you treat romance to me, has to be extrapolated to how people treat people and what a person feels about close relationships(in all aspects). Human beings rely on each other, it's what civilization is about. To call merely wanting any form of that the most unhealthy form is just wrong. I'm sure he was referring to romantic relationships but romantic relationships make more sense to science than friendship, every species sees a drive to continuation, and being flabbergasted by people wanting intimacy is ridiculous.

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When I choose to settle I will settle but I'm not ready to tie myself down atm so I'm not against people having several relationships as long as no one is being decieved. It's just cruel to toy with people's emotions like that. Naturally I'm faithful when in a relationship and expect the same of my boyfriend otherwise why bother being together like that. I couldn't have a serious relationship with more than one person, if I can't stay faithful I obviously don't love them enough and vice versa.


This sounds like a smoker saying that they can quit anytime. I could try to play a guitar right now, and I wouldn't be able to. What I'm getting at is that what you need to do now, you should have learned ten years ago. Human interactions are learned. Habits are formed, If you have a habit borne out of not being disciplined, you'll have to re-develop it. Like not watching what you eat ect. And to blame a lack of love because you can't be faithful is really immature.

I just feel people have such weird misconceptions. You can be in a relationship no matter what. People are in relationships through wars, while working away, Bruce lee went his whole career married without that slowing him down. If you can have friends, you can be in a relationship. The idea that you decide to settle is a bit off too. That's an attitude(for a lack of a better word) people have, and they go into relationships with it as a possibility. If you found what you consider the best person 3 years ago, it wouldn't make sense to not be with them(not that'd you have to have children). When people say they'll pick a time, they often continually push it back and continually set up new goals that have to be met. It becomes a future thing and is always thought of as much. But if it's an attitude, you'll let it happen normally and you'll end relationships that aren't going to work sooner.



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this is all my opinion. i sat down and read up to page 3 skipped to 7 and finally decided to post something.

I'm totally against it. i agree with the person (sorry forgot ur name) who said it was like cheating. if the guy i love (at the moment i don't have one) or someone i was into said he's in a relationship with someone but still wants to be with me, I'd freak. That's plain disgusting in my mind and i wouldn't even want him to touch me. i want a man all to myself and i want the trust that goes with it. and that includes honesty. if he told me he wants to be with another person and still with me, I'd tell him to choose. me or them.

to me those with more than one partners don't solely have one person they hold above the rest. like a man knew his wife is having a relationship with another man. he is nothing special to her and the other guy is nothing special to her. either way she gets what she wants from both guys. if both are okay with that then that means they can be with other people too. so there is no commitment just a lot of friends with benefits. thats an extremely loose relationship with no solid foundation. it kinda reminds me of parasite relationship. purely selfish and self-indulging.

but hey if others can make it work, congrats. if you like that type of thing, whatever. go ahead and live the life you wanna live. that's what everyone does anyway.

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Isn't it every guy's dream to have more than one wife, especially if you are rich and can emotionally sustain such relationships? The reason for polygamy in the olden days seemed understandable was so that human beings could multiply enormously. Men of today do not need to multiply so crazily because the world is almost overpopulated by humans.

Men having more than one wife > Women having more than one husband.

As a male, I approve of Polygamy - but I will not practice it because I don't think I'll be able to maintain both this kind of relationship financially and emotionally. If it were only sexually - then of course. biggrin

EDIT: Actually, scratch that, I'll be able to maintain it financially. I'm pretty wealthy. But the emotional aspect will be the challenge.


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I'm not opposed to polygamy on any moral grounds, I honestly doubt you could without throwing some religious view into the mix.
That said I just do not think it practically feasible.
Romantic love by its nature is selfish. It is about wanting to keep another person to yourself, to claim them as 'the one' for you, and no one else. (at least untill the relationship goes tits up, of course)
This kind of feeling cannot work between more than two people with all being happy.
If there is such a relationship, then I guess I need to rethink my concept of romantic love or there simply doesn't exist any love in the relationship, at least not mutual.
Then there is the possiblity of someone being forced into a polygamous relationship. Plus the legal ramifications of the whole thing.

TL;DR: I oppose polygamy on grounds of practicality.

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Isn't it every guy's dream to have more than one wife, especially if you are rich and can emotionally sustain such relationships? The reason for polygamy in the olden days seemed understandable was so that human beings could multiply enormously. Men of today do not need to multiply so crazily becaus ...


Don't group all men together as it causes misunderstandings for the others. I personally don't want crap to do with other chicks past being friends, and want to devote every bit of myself to my girl. I'd only want two wives if I had somehow ended up caring about 2 people at the same level, and they were fully accepting of such an outcome. I am personally content with my jealous gf, and wouldn't trade it for such a cheap thrill.


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I'd be fine with two partners, three stretching it max, what's wrong with having someone else look after the one you love (first)? Sometimes people want to be alone but sometimes they're lonely, so if it's like a deep friendship kind of relationship, why not. Especially if each have their own work and schedules don't match perfectly, at least there'll always be someone waiting for you at home.

If two people love you, I'm pretty sure most would be happy they are so loved so if the two can work it out and be buddies, you get double the love. Lucky.

There will always be jealousy, etc in relationships and sometimes play fighting a bit over love can keep things fresh lol. It definitely isn't for everyone but I wouldn't condemn others for being polyamorous.

I am against having too many however, simply because there is a limited amount of time you can contribute to taking care of a partner mainly emotionally, there are those who don't care emotionally and are in it for the money but anything over 4 or 5 in a relationship really seems too problematic.

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Romantic love by its nature is selfish. It is about wanting to keep another person to yourself, to claim them as 'the one' for you, and no one else. (at least untill the relationship goes tits up, of course)

sums up my thoughts

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