Quote from APOKOLYPES
i remember seeing a discovery documentary about an indigenous culture that did not practice the concept of marriage - every night/week or whenever men and women would switch partners
towards the end of the show though, younger males in this tribe of people that had been exposed to western society ...
I doubt jealously didn't exist before. fact is I've seen lots of stuff on tribes that supposedly don't have marriages and fact is that they still tend to have long term relationships. Even in a culture where the people didn't have to start a new family, they would see each other for a long time.
but that's the other thing, if you were talking about a primitive culture, it's a lot tougher to not get children out of sex. Children wouldn't benefit as well from having their parents still in such a loose arrangement.
This is partially about the multiple guy scenario: More than likely people have to settle for a multiple marriage. If it was one lady and two guys, than one or the other is probably settling, especially if they don't have other wives themselves. And you usually don't see that in any culture that does have polygamy which I think shows an inequality in the situation. Also it's not like women are insatiable. Some women want less sex, and having two different guys wanting might be a problem. So might a threesome(or excluding someone from one).
I can't really add to the poll though because of the way it's phrased. To me, it wouldn't be a better system. It certainly doesn't sound appealing. But it's not like anyone can stop people from living together if they choose to, or have an open marriage or whatever.
But it really has nothing to do with the gay issue. The sad thing is that the same things that make gay relationships okay are used by a lot of fringe groups like pedophiles and beastiality people. That their consenting or want it or whatever, but lacking the fact that they aren't adults(sometimes not even close) or human. I can only guess someone threw polygamy there at some point.
From a legal perspective, marriage in the west has been about passing down wealth to a legitimate heir, so it wouldn't make sense for their to be multiple. It's why some ancient rich, powerful people had mistresses(sometimes only one) but only one wife.
-talking about relationships in general-
Quote from Jooles
I don't get why everyone's so focused on being in a relationship. The desperation of being in one is a clear sign that you're not supposed to be in one. Co-dependency. A relationship only works with two people fully content with being alone/independent.
Jooles is imaging something from people wanting a relationship(extrapolating the smallest number as the largest). That aside, 99% of people AREN'T CONTENT BEING ALONE. It goes against human nature. People are in relationships with their friends, family, and romantic relationships are one aspect of that. It doesn't make sense to treat it so independently. the way you treat romance to me, has to be extrapolated to how people treat people and what a person feels about close relationships(in all aspects). Human beings rely on each other, it's what civilization is about. To call merely wanting any form of that the most unhealthy form is just wrong. I'm sure he was referring to romantic relationships but romantic relationships make more sense to science than friendship, every species sees a drive to continuation, and being flabbergasted by people wanting intimacy is ridiculous.
Quote from CuthienSilmeriel
When I choose to settle I will settle but I'm not ready to tie myself down atm so I'm not against people having several relationships as long as no one is being decieved. It's just cruel to toy with people's emotions like that. Naturally I'm faithful when in a relationship and expect the same of my boyfriend otherwise why bother being together like that. I couldn't have a serious relationship with more than one person, if I can't stay faithful I obviously don't love them enough and vice versa.
This sounds like a smoker saying that they can quit anytime. I could try to play a guitar right now, and I wouldn't be able to. What I'm getting at is that what you need to do now, you should have learned ten years ago. Human interactions are learned. Habits are formed, If you have a habit borne out of not being disciplined, you'll have to re-develop it. Like not watching what you eat ect. And to blame a lack of love because you can't be faithful is really immature.
I just feel people have such weird misconceptions. You can be in a relationship no matter what. People are in relationships through wars, while working away, Bruce lee went his whole career married without that slowing him down. If you can have friends, you can be in a relationship. The idea that you decide to settle is a bit off too. That's an attitude(for a lack of a better word) people have, and they go into relationships with it as a possibility. If you found what you consider the best person 3 years ago, it wouldn't make sense to not be with them(not that'd you have to have children). When people say they'll pick a time, they often continually push it back and continually set up new goals that have to be met. It becomes a future thing and is always thought of as much. But if it's an attitude, you'll let it happen normally and you'll end relationships that aren't going to work sooner.
Last edited by Hell_Clues at 8:34 pm, May 13 2012