Oh hmm interesting topic...

Yes I pretty much believe in God not because I'm Catholic (although I really corrupt myself when it comes to anime) but at least there would have to be something that can out of nothing right?

Anyways, other than that you could also take this into a scientific approach where there must be an observer for something to exist in reality.

I forgot what the experiment was called but it was something along the lines of a closed box with a cat and some rat poison in it. It was connected to some sort of a circuit or something and I pretty much forgot the rest (oops) anyways, the main point of the experiment was to see that there should be an observer in order for the cat to exist or for the cat to be dead and to acknowledge either choice the cat makes. Although I may just be blabbing on continuously.

Anyone know this type of philosophy and its experiment?


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I think therefore I am. In simplest terms if you are capable of thought then you must exist because otherwise you would not be thinking. The point of that experiment was a test to find out if for the cat to exist does there have to be something that knew of its existence. If it did then the universe would require a god of some sort to exist, omnipotently giving meaning to our existence.

My thought is all suppositions of what god is or weather god exist or not are matters of faith: if you believe in god than god exist and can take action, if you don't then events that others might see the hand of god in is simply chance by another name. In essence you chose god; he doesn't choose you.


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Hmm thanks for that.

You know in a way I got this whole experiment thing in my head ever since we went to that one science and god lecture plus the fact I watched Suzumiya Haruhi and read the light novels.

A little lame but yeah, I at least there's something out there doing something.
Good to know someone out there at least knew the experiment. Lecture was kinda funny too since a friend next to me ask a really good question, he threw (literally threw) a book to my friend who was at the other side of lecture hall and shot my kneecap.

At least now I know that God can make a mean joke at times lol ^^ just jokes



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i go to a private school where we have religion class but i dont belive in God its weird cause like we have to pray in the beginning of every class>.>
and im like the only one not praying o.o''

~.:In my school it seems that around 85% of the students (I did a pole for a math class) are either agnostic or atheist, which I found odd because we're below the Bible belt. (for those of you who don't live in America, the south eastern region is characterized by fanatic "bible thumpin' ") Even though they attend regular church sessions and believe in the teachings of Christianity they don't believe in a higher power that controls their fate. I on the other hand can't disprove his existence but don't believe we all came to be by chance, as the dimensional witch would say "there is no coincidence". I think there is a higher power that is guiding us, God, Allah, Fate; it all seems to be the same thing under a different name to me… As for the afterlife I think that if he were merciful and all knowing than why would he exclude those who were never introduced to his faith? One has to remember that Christianity has been used as a root of political power for hundreds of years and the ability to excommunicate has been used as a trump card by the church to get what they want. He he, I think I’m starting to ramble but my point is God’s teachings may have been perverted to for political gain, albeit “Join us or go to hell”
(Fun Fact:- The Catholic church admited that Galileo was right about the earth not being the center of the universe 350 years later, in 1992 ):.~

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Very interesting topic here. I once considered myself catholic but now I consider myself reasonable(no offense). I believe there is a scientific explanation which probably involves a certain chain of events that happened many years ago(way before the bible) that eventually led to our existence today. I think that we are all entitled to our own beliefs but at the same time I feel that asking for there to be a god that actually looks out for us is selfish, unlikely, and quite frankly asking for too much. I think some people believe that a world without religion is "evil" or something but as long as there are people with good judgment and a sense of justice then we as human beings can enjoy life for what it is.

Yup...God of the Bible. Not any of the extra crap you see tagged with it tho. It's the only truth and well....that's just that really. ^_^

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hey guys,
just a quick throw in, i was reading up on the sexual laws of the USA on my all time favoriet time killer wikipedia, and its really fun. The laws invented to protect the morality of people are realy a good read. Oral sex was vorbidden in many states up to the 60s as a crime against nature. A lot of sex criminals were sterilised.
Maybe if we had the internet 70 years ago we wouldn't be discussing gay rights, instead we would be fighting about wether oral sex damages our moral integrity.
we've come a long way baby, and whatever we do there is going to be a new front opend up.

uhhh....i'm not too sure.....my mother would kill me if i said i didn't, but i honestly don't know if i believe in God.....

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Obviously i believe in God, what other possible explaination is there for anime and manga I mean human beings don't just come up with this stuff. Divine inspiriration is what it is.

Do you think you can actually persuade someone to believe in god? I believe in god but i find it hard to believe that someone was inspired to believe through another person just like us...or in other words imagine it was you looking at somebody, can you get very effected by somebody else to the point that you start believing in God?

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I find that really hard too believe but I've heard of situations like that before.

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My thought is all suppositions of what god is or weather god exist or not are matters of faith: if you believe in god than god exist and can take action, if you don't then events that others might see the hand of god in is simply chance by another name. In essence you chose god; he doesn't choose you.
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...or "God" is a product of human brain

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Although it varies from culture to culture, we have lots of gods in the ancient time. Any natural phenomenon (that couldn't be explained at the time) all could be given a god name (fire, storm, blah blah you name it). As time goes by, science develops & kinda "exterminates" lots of gods.

However, there's only one god (maybe the ultimate one, "god of creation" or simply how things were created) left that science hasn't had enough evidences to "lay off" him/her/whatever.

The point is what we can't explain now doesn't instantly mean that there's a supreme god out there. It just means that human are still dumb (xD) about things/phenomenons which we usually call "weird"/"magical"/"mysterious"/etc...

Also, I believe that a person can behave reasonable & become a good son/daughter/husband/wife/friend/citizen.. without the boost of any supreme god

Sorry if there's any grammar error left...I tried my best

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I believe in many things and God could be up there. Who says that we all have to combine our beliefs into one person or thing? I believe in anything and everything that I want. I can believe in God and Buddha and Satan at the same time if I want to since I'm a open minded person. Many things exists in our world and who is to say that we can only choose to believe in one? That's my one cent on this topic.

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