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New Poll - Ecchi
This week's poll was suggested almost 10 years ago by StarlightDreams. If you read manga, you should know what ecchi means, so I'm not even gonna put "what is ecchi?" as an option

You can submit poll ideas here
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Previous Poll Results:
Question: Opinion on deus ex machina in manga
Choices:
Love it - votes: 299 (6.6%)
Hate it - votes: 461 (10.2%)
It's okay... - votes: 447 (9.9%)
Only if it's funny - votes: 396 (8.7%)
Only if it's creative - votes: 1609 (35.5%)
What are you talking about? - votes: 1317 (29.1%)
There were 4529 total votes.
The poll ended: April 28th 2018

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Posted by lambchopsil on April 28th 7:24am Comments ( 28 )  [ View ]  [ Add ]
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» VawX on April 28th, 2018, 12:29am

Indifferent, only if the story and plot is good can ecchi be good too mmm...
Ecchi for the sake of comedy or moving story is good, but ecchi just for fan service, I don't enjoy it as much anymore mmm...
So I guess I pick " I enjoy it, but it's not the best thing ever mmm...

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» MinatoAce on April 28th, 2018, 1:12am

No opinion really.
But, it would be nice if there is no annoying amount of it. Also no panty jokes/skits and loli stuff, they're hella annoying, silly, childish, no-fun at all, pieces of crap.

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» Ergzay on April 28th, 2018, 2:12am

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» Ergzay on April 28th, 2018, 2:13am

This is a shitty poll. 4 of the 6 options are negative and one is neutral. There are levels between "no opinion really" and "love it!". Jeez people. Can you fix the poll so its not utter nonsense?

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» ImmLff on April 28th, 2018, 7:18am

Quote from Ergzay
This is a shitty poll. 4 of the 6 options are negative and one is neutral. There are levels between "no opinion really" and "love it!". Jeez people. Can you fix the poll so its not utter nonsense?

You are misunderstanding something, or maybe the options were changed after your comment. Currently there are 2 negative options, 2 neutral options, and 2 positive options:
"Hate it with a passion" & "Actively avoid it" - negative.
"Mostly ignore it" & "No opinion really" - neutral.
"Love it! Only thing I read!" & "I enjoy it, but it's not the best thing ever" - positive.

Regarding "Mostly ignore it", it likely means that reader mostly ignores the ecchi, he doesn't care too much about its presence, not that he ignores manga with it.

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» MangaGhost on April 29th, 2018, 8:20am

I'm sure "Mostly ignore it" is intended as neutral, but is not how I see it. I ignore ecchi in manga, because its often dumb or placed poorly and therefore annoys me which isn't a neutral feeling. However, the rest of the story or characters maybe interesting, so I try not to pay attention to the dumb fanservice bits unless its so over the top which then may necessitate me dropping it. So no ignoring something or putting up with it is not a good thing nor is it a neutral one for me.

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» calstine on April 28th, 2018, 2:26am

Actively avoid it. There are a couple of ecchi manga I love for their plot and characters (Get Backers especially comes to mind), but it's filtered from my release list, and unless I'm 100% convinced that the plot and/or characters are worth the torment, I'll never pick up an ecchi title, whether anime or manga.

That being said, what I hate the most is the "holy" trinity of ecchi, romance and harem. Plain old ecchi without romance or harem is pretty whatever, I guess.

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» Sugarshark on April 28th, 2018, 5:34am

I'm active in my snobbery
there'll be more options in the next ecchi poll in 2028

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» svines85 on April 28th, 2018, 7:15am

Hey, sex sells, it always has.......no real strong opinion myself (I voted for "enjoy it"), but yeah, as has been said, it's just another part of the story/work, if the rest of it ain't no good.......it's just some vehicle to show a lot of T and A.......yeah, booooo!! D:

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» residentgrigo on April 28th, 2018, 8:22am

It´s hard to choose an answer, as i don´t want to burn it all down on principle. Actively avoid it has to be it then. Just that i stop after ch. 1, unless i know that the author is crap beforehand.
Sex comedies don´t have to be shit on principle but it´s hard to defend this sinking ship. It and harem have about the lowest quality standards there are. Hentai will further give you more bang for your buck, so what´s the point? Nothing against explicit sex in media though. YOSHIDA Motoi or Lars von Trier know what´s up. Dito for Image´s Saga or Sex Criminals. These have sex scenes that would be illegal in a Japanese publication. Switch to US/EU comics if you want to see real sex in comics. You will also be spared all the pederast crap, unless that´s what you want. Good old Ecchi certainly has you covered there...

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» MangaGhost on April 29th, 2018, 8:10am

Agreed. I tend to avoid it or ignore it unless its done well and Saga by Vaughan is honest and sometimes funny in its depictions. I'm also ok with something erotic like Stjepan Sejic's Sunstone, but so much stuff out there is fanservice for its own sake that its just shoved into perfectly decent stories that its grating. And yea, harem sure do seem to have lowest standards.

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» turbotatoe on April 28th, 2018, 12:20pm

To paraphrase my friend, ecchi is like a sports car with its quirks like firm suspension, low ride height and so on. It makes a road(plot) full of holes feel even worse, but if it's nice, smooth and well laid out, then it improves the experience. There's no good answer in the poll for this line of thought, but since I usually don't pick series for their ecchiness, I guess "Mostly ignore it" is the closest?

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» Moirae on April 29th, 2018, 1:41am

I agree with this line of thinking. I don't mind a bit of ecchi or fanservice as long as it doesn't get in the way of plot or turn the whole story to shit. Like Nononono, starts off as a gender-bender sports manga with a touch of romance and some tragic backstory to some convoluted mess
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with multiple molestations, perverts blackmailing the main character to wear a dog collar naked while rubbing her boobs iirc and other attempted rape (and murder) scenes
. That's when I checked the author and realized it was the mangaka for Elfen Lied. I never really understood the draw of that manga. I think I read up to volume 5/12 before deciding it just wasn't for me.

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» MangaGhost on April 29th, 2018, 7:56am

I liked Nononono, and ski jumping was original as an idea and seemed well researched. But it had low sales and they decided to rev up the creepy fanservice to the nth degree which ruined it for me.

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» aimichan on April 28th, 2018, 4:43pm

Actively avoid it. I'd rather read straight up hentai than read ecchi. Either go all the way, or don't go at all. smile wink grin

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» LibertyTrooper on April 29th, 2018, 4:22am

"I enjoy it, but it's not the best thing ever" was my choice. Honestly, if it has some central meaning to the plot I think its fine. I mean, if the world will explode if a protagonist see's panties, then that's a central plot device.

In the end, I've been a lurker for the past few years and only recently have started to actively leverage MangaUpdates to track and find Manga. I regret if I've missed something and would actively welcome advice on what it is that I may have missed with regards to the site, categories, and tags.

Where I do become disappointed is when Manga are categorized as "Hentai" when the existence of the sexual themes is a central point in a otherwise well developed plot. There are some good Manga out there that are, in my opinion, identified in that manner. I do suppose thats why the Borderline-H tag exists. Yet, there is still room for error even with that tag.

Some of my favorite random manga have turned out to be tagged with Hentai when, to me, they don't meet the criteria of showing explicit scenes without a developed plot device. Yet, then I suppose its up to the reader to decide what is, and what isn't, a worthwhile plot.

Perhaps an 'Explicit' category would be more useful to identifying Manga where gratuitous sex is not the central point of the panels.

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» gettingbye on April 29th, 2018, 11:49am

I couldn't vote because I actually happen to love ecchi but it isn't the only thing I read (duh), so poll is pretty discriminatory in who is an is not an ecchi reader.

Quite off the subject, I don't think there is a right way to do ecchi but it ought to have mass appeal or mass approval for what the industry serves to consumers. BL and ecchi stand out to me in that both manga and non-manga readers commonly find them distasteful. Common reasons I have heard to explain why were because "it does nothing for me" or "it is gross".

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» blackkittycat15 on April 29th, 2018, 8:19pm

It would be interesting to see the gender breakdown in this. I read/watch quite a bit of it so if I were a dude I'm pretty sure I'd love it. As a woman I have no opinion really and question myself why I read it (but still will).

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» Transdude1996 on April 29th, 2018, 9:36pm

Everything that I've seen seems to indicate that women tend to be much more perverted.
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However, you're also never going to get a good estimate because, as far as I know, people outside of Japan (And, Asia in general) don't consider things like fujoshi-bait to be ecchi (Even though...IT IS).
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» LibertyTrooper on April 29th, 2018, 10:54pm

I'd totally wear a T-Shirt that says "Don't feed the Fujoshi"

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» gwkimmy on May 1st, 2018, 9:51am

your post really has me thinking as to what the appropriate definition of "ecchi" should be. my definition is that it's male-targeted sexual titillation, which I don't care for and is often juvenile, so I voted for "ignore". The only thing I've enjoyed from this genre has been the prison school anime and I actively ignore all the ecchi bits.

that being said, I am also a fujioshi and read a shit ton of BL. if we included "female-targeted sexual titillation" in there, what exactly would that look like? There are BL series that are basically made so that girls can stare at dicks, but those are usually flat out porn and there is explicit sex involved. So then maybe a shounen-ai that tickles female's fancies? By that logic, my fav hayakawa nojiko falls in the category, but no one gets close to naked or sexual, just making sexy googly eyes at each other. Other than that I can only think of reverse harems in shoujo, but since they're shoujo the males maybe only get their shirt off, nothing more. I haven't watched free!, maybe that counts lol.

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» gettingbye on April 30th, 2018, 3:10am

Quote from blackkittycat15
It would be interesting to see the gender breakdown in this. I read/watch quite a bit of it so if I were a dude I'm pretty sure I'd love it. As a woman I have no opinion really and question myself why I read it (but still will).


I think most of us think of ecchi as targetted towards men though it wouldn't be shocking to me if over 40% of ecchi readers identified themselves as female. Now I don't have any idea what the gender breadowns are but I think that the reach of ecchi is too wide for it not to have appeal to both genders and I am referring to ecchi that is targetted towards males.

I am semi interested to see a poll that addresses the overall feelings the average ecchi reader has on the ecchi they read. Something along the lines of:

What is your general impression of the ecchi content contained in the mangas you are currently reading or have completely read?

arousing
entertaining
intriguing
informative
indifferent
cringe
disturbing
disgusting
I do not read ecchi manga

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» train93 on April 30th, 2018, 4:04am

If it's a manga based on ecchi, then I'll just avoid it. But when it's a manga that actually has something else to offer, that's when it really pisses me off.

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» kihi on April 30th, 2018, 6:46am

Honestly I have no idea what the real "ecchi" entails. If it means boobs groping, skirt flipping and panties peeping, I don't like it because to me those are just filler and usually would drop there type of manga.

Interesting to know that fujoshi-bait stuff are ecchi too and I don't like that either.

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» silver and blue on April 30th, 2018, 7:36pm

Weird options to pick from. I'm kind of neutral towards ecchi. I don't hate it but i don't see it as crucial or important either. It really depends on the level of ecchi and the type of manga.
At best i can only choose between the last two options, but both kind of miss the mark.

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» Breizh on May 2nd, 2018, 12:20pm

I mostly ignore it, I loved Eden no ori but I didn’t pay attention at all to the “plot” as they say. Don’t like it but I ignore it just fine.

Although when it’s subtile and not full of big breasts everywhere it can be enjoyable.

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» tnwls523 on May 3rd, 2018, 6:59am

Effing hate it with a passion. mad mad mad mad mad Most mangas don't use dicks as fanservice so why do they constantly feel the need to flash panties and boobs for fanservice? The whole ecchi thing is so male-oriented, it's like they don't care for the female readership. Shots of abs? I wouldn't mind so much. That's beside the point, however. The main reason is I don't think fanservice (both boobs and fujoshi-bait) is really needed in normal manga. I'm okay with it being in mature/hentai/yuri/yaoi/shounen ai/shoujo ai manga because that's what those genres are for but I don't want big boobs and panties constantly thrown in my face in shounen manga (Gawd, Air Gear comes to mind). It just throws me off when I'm so involved in the story. Now if the manga is solely ecchi-centered, I don't mind too much since I can just choose to avoid it.

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» cecropiamoth on May 3rd, 2018, 8:04pm

"The whole ecchi thing is so male-oriented, it's like they don't care for the female readership."

Right. Ecchi mainly appears in shounen and seinen manga, which is written for publication in manga pubs aimed at the demographics of boys and young men, two groups that tend to have a lively interest in drawings of undressed and partially undressed women. Being a male, I like it when it's done well, as an adjunct to a good story.

Not everything has to be written to interest both sexes. Quite the contrary.

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