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New Poll - Acceptable Spoilers
This week's poll (suggested by 8-3) is a follow-up to a poll from a couple of weeks ago. Is it ever okay to not worry about spoilers? And of so, at what point is it okay?

You can submit poll ideas here
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Previous Poll Results:
Question: You finish reading your favorite series, so you...
Choices:
I probably won't read this ever again - votes: 563 (13.1%)
I'll reread it a while from now (years, perhaps) - votes: 3258 (75.6%)
Start rereading it fairly soon - votes: 489 (11.3%)
There were 4310 total votes.
The poll ended: November 3rd 2018
Posted by lambchopsil on November 3rd 7:15am Comments ( 18 )  [ View ]  [ Add ]
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» Sugarshark on November 3rd, 2018, 12:42am

less than a month at tops
I'd prefer less than 2 weeks

these releases are something people are looking forward to months/years in advance
filthy casuals

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» residentgrigo on November 3rd, 2018, 1:39am

I assume that we talk about concluded works? At least a few years after initial release. Let´s say 2 years. Only truly literary buffs, or whatever the word is here, go back to older works. So few can be harmed by throwing out major plot points left and right in this scenario.

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» VawX on November 3rd, 2018, 3:10am

I'm not sure what to choose since I only discuss a series in a specific forum, whether it's "up to translated", "latest raw" or any other type of discussion knowing full the risk of spoiler mmm...
So I guess Any time you want is my choice mmm...

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» Jooles on November 3rd, 2018, 4:47am

NEVER, unless It's in e.g. a dedicated forum and even then shields should always be usted. People have different timetables and multiple interests, AT least give them a f'ing option instead of spoiling Naruto on a Bleach-page, One Piece on a random musicvideo on youtube or the ending of Sons of Anarchy on the Witcher 3-reddit.

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» Trimutius on November 3rd, 2018, 5:50am

I personally don't worry too much about spoilers, but a few of my friends do, so i try to keep it low profile when i am discussing it somewhere people might not have read it. Might include some spoilers if it had been a few years and spoilers are a way to convince someone to read the series they otherwise wouldn't... So a few years i suppose.

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» toshirodragon on November 3rd, 2018, 6:21am

NEVER, particularly if it's character death. There are several good series I cannot continue because some idiot spoiled a death for me.

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» kurotaito on November 3rd, 2018, 6:27am

It does not depend on when the series is released, but the person's feeling about spoiling in general

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» KaoriNite on November 3rd, 2018, 7:42am

I don't think it's ever okay to give away spoilers to a manga (or movie, or tv show) regardless of when it's released. You should always give a spoiler warning to make sure the people you are discussing the series with are okay hearing spoilers. I often read and watch older series and I personally never want to hear any spoilers, whether its a major plot point or just a minor thing.

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» Kurapica on November 3rd, 2018, 8:13am

Quote from KaoriNite
I don't think it's ever okay to give away spoilers to a manga (or movie, or tv show) regardless of when it's released. You should always give a spoiler warning to make sure the people you are discussing the series with are okay hearing spoilers. I often read and watch older series and I ...
I agree with this. If youre going to give away spoilers it should always be accompanied by a warning or preferably spoiler tags. There's little more infuriating than watching a show when you've already been spoilered.

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» Transdude1996 on November 3rd, 2018, 10:49am

Quote from KaoriNite
I don't think it's ever okay to give away spoilers to a manga (or movie, or tv show) regardless of when it's released. You should always give a spoiler warning to make sure the people you are discussing the series with are okay hearing spoilers. I often read and watch older series and I ...

Tell that to people who cannot shut up about subjects such as Aeris' death in Final Fantasy VII, but, then again, that also shows the quality of the story. If the plot for a media relies on the viewer having to be "spoiler-free" on the story, doesn't that show how weak it is? The previous poll was just about how often people will re-experience a series, but the thing about returning to a series is that you'll know everything that will happen. So, all the surprises are already spoiled and all that's left is the execution.

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» Romashk on November 3rd, 2018, 8:34pm

Clicked never, because it's not when it's acceptable to discuss, but where

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» washaa on November 4th, 2018, 3:50am

Romashk is correct. It's only OK if you clearly state what will be discussed in the subject of a thread or where you are coming from when heading into a live discussion.

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» hkanz on November 3rd, 2018, 8:40pm

I chose 'never', at least in reference to major plot points or endings. I mentioned a movie I haven't seen to a friend the other day and she said 'oh, the one where everyone dies in the end'...... ...I don't have any friends who like manga, so usually I just avoid reading any online commentary until I'm done a series, except for reviews on this site, and people are generally good about using spoiler tags in the reviews.

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» Afro Thunda on November 3rd, 2018, 10:05pm

If a series has been out for years and years and years already, and someone hasn't read/watched it yet, especially if it was (or maybe still is) a popular series, then they're just gonna have to take the L on the spoiler front if said series becomes a topic of discussion. I would, however, avoid dropping the bigger spoilers in a series if I'm aware someone hasn't read/watched it yet and is intending to relatively soon.

Now if it's a relatively new series (has been out for less than 2 years), then I would be sure to avoid bringing up the biggest plot points or reveals that have come up up to the most recent chapters.

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» ForeignerChan on November 4th, 2018, 12:39pm

I've chosen Never. In my opinion, giving spoilers away without a proper warning is very disrespectful towards the potential readers. There are people who can handle spoilers but there are also people who would feel discouraged if they read a spoiler about a series.

Quote from Jooles
People have different timetables
Quote from KaoriNite
I don't think it's ever okay to give away spoilers to a manga (or movie, or tv show) regardless of when it's released. You should always give a spoiler warning to make sure the people you are discussing the series with are okay hearing spoilers. I often read and watch older series and I personally never want to hear any spoilers, whether its a major plot point or just a minor thing.

This is why I think we should never give spoilers. We all have different timetables, so we can't estimate how long you should wait before starting giving spoilers freely.

Quote from toshirodragon
There are several good series I cannot continue because some idiot spoiled a death for me.

I feel you... I've dropped a series because of that.

Quote from Kurapica
If you're going to give away spoilers it should always be accompanied by a warning or preferably spoiler tags.

Amen.

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» HikaruYami on November 4th, 2018, 3:17pm

This is a very deep question so I will give my thoughts on various different situations:

1) I will never give away spoilers to a series that I am specifically recommending to someone (for example, if I were to be recommending One Piece to someone who I knew had never read it, I wouldn't say "don't get too attached to Ace" ) , but in a public forum (like this one) I don't think it matters at all.

2) I do personally adhere to "a few months" before talking about e.g. movies that contain major plot spoilers in real-life public spaces, but I don't begrudge people who spoil them the day after release, especially on the internet (by, say, making a youtube video with a spoiler in the title)--if someone cared that fucking much, they would've seen it on launch night because they should know that's the only way to avoid spoilers on The Internet. I know people that do media blackouts for things they actually care about, and I respect their dedication even though I'm nothing like them.

3) The one thing I don't think is okay is bringing spoilers for unreleased content outside of forums dedicated to spoilers for that content. It's not even that I personally mind (I don't, at all), but unlike spoilers for released content, I can totally understand why that would be infuriating, hypothetically. The "snape kills dumbledore" spoiler rightfully pissed a shitton of people off--even if those people were in line for the midnight release and didn't fall asleep until they finished the book (like my sister did), they still had a super gigantic plot point spoiled for them early. And iirc, a few people got outright banned from apforums (again, justifiably lol) for bringing "OMG ACE DIES" out of the spoiler subforum before a full scanlation of the chapter was available.

So although my real opinion, especially for the internet, is "any time you want" [for released content], I put "at least a few months after release" as my answer to the poll since that's what I adhere to in real-life public spaces. But I only even wait that long more as a social grace than because I think it's really justified. It's hard to take the moral high ground when a movie released last week 😛

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» MinatoAce on November 4th, 2018, 10:16pm

Any time you want.
Whatever anyone else may think, All the other options are overrated.

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» CancerSnatcher on November 6th, 2018, 7:45pm

I try my best not the spoil anything for people who haven't read something yet, since that's how I personally prefer going into things. I'll make exceptions if the person I'm speaking with doesn't care about spoilers or it's a series I particularly hate then I might spoil stuff in an effort to convince them not to read it.

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