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New Poll - Animation Quality Deal Breaker
This week's poll was suggested by residentgrigo. Basically, how much do you care about the animation quality?

You can submit poll ideas here
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Question: The great era for manga/anime was
Choices:
The beginning (50-60s) e.g: Astro Boy, Speed Racer, Kimba the Lion, GeGeGe no Kitarou - votes: 23 (0.7%)
The trendsetter (70s) e.g: Doraemon, Galaxy Express 999, Lupin III, Cutie Honey - votes: 81 (2.4%)
The classics (80s) e.g: Dragon Ball, Captain Tsubasa, Gundam, Jojo - votes: 384 (11.4%)
The state-of-the-art (90s) e.g: Slam Dunk, Rurouni Kenshin, Sailor Moon, One Piece - votes: 1080 (32%)
The millennia (2000s) e.g: Fullmetal Alchemist, Death Note, Ouran High School - votes: 1290 (38.2%)
Current (2010s) e.g: One-Punch Man, Attack on Titan, Tokyo Ghoul, My Hero Academia - votes: 518 (15.3%)
There were 3376 total votes.
The poll ended: March 23rd 2019

So does that mean most of the users of this site are in their 30's now?
Posted by lambchopsil on 
March 23rd 7:49am
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» Rouzmary on March 23rd, 2019, 2:54am

I had a feeling 90's and 2000's would be the winners...since they're also my fav 😀

I'm thinking that most users here are probably between 20-30 and in their 30's.

Currently I'm 26yo but have been on MU for over 8 years, though read manga way before that.

I think we did have and age poll some time back (probably years ago XD)
I wonder if we should do another one...

But even if 90/2000's won, I don't think that indicates age quite correctly, since I'm a 90's kid myself but read the 90's manga more than a decade after it was released.
Or maybe that does indicate why I'd also like 90's manga...

I think with "classics" or such well known ones like Rurouni Kenshin, FMA etc their fame speaks for itself and thus new generation would also read them even if they've just started reading manga or hadn't been interested in that genre/style before.
But for those like One Piece, which are still ongoing, its even easier to gain readers since they show up with new chapters regularly. Though some probably might get scared away with the 100's of chapters they have XD

What I'm most curious about is if some of the younger generation readers get scared away from older manga's due to the different drawing style since most mangas these last 5 or so years come out looking practically the same art wise.


As for the the current poll - unless the animation is of super bad quality, I'll watch it if the plot indeed seems to be great. 😉

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» ForeignerChan on March 23rd, 2019, 4:04am

I also think that age doesn't matter. The "classics" -- be it manga, anime, novels or movies -- are works that are considered models and can speak to all generations. Now, it's true that some people might be put off by an unusual -- in this case "vintage" -- art style, but that's up to each one of us. With time I've learnt that avoiding a manga based on the art style is plain superficial. Plus, you get used to the art style pretty quickly, so you will just need to wait a couple of chapters not to mind it anymore. In some cases you could even end up liking it.

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» Rouzmary on March 23rd, 2019, 12:37pm

Quote from ForeignerChan
I also think that age doesn't matter. The "classics" -- be it manga, anime, novels or movies -- are works that are considered models and can speak to all generations. Now, it's true that some people might be put off by an unusual -- in this case "vintage" -- art style, but th ...


Yup, that's how it usually goes for me as well: even if some style at first seems not quite to my taste, I'd still give it a try if the plot is appealing and within few chapters/episodes I get used to it and all is well.

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» HikaruYami on March 25th, 2019, 9:40am

Same, but the number of people I've met that didn't even finish the first half of chapter 1 of One Piece over a decade ago because "it's ugly" is unreasonably high lol.

I think people are more willing to give it a shot now that literally everyone knows that it's the best-selling manga to ever exist.

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» Transdude1996 on March 23rd, 2019, 5:46am

Did you watch Kemono Friends, Season One: The Poll

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» deathgoyle on March 23rd, 2019, 6:46am

I only mind in extreme cases of bad animation

I have to be able to watch it without getting sick, things like Mononoke, and Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo, freaky artstyles and coloring are my deal breakers.

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» svines85 on March 23rd, 2019, 10:24am

Story is always the #1 concern.......tv, movies, books, manga, anime, you name it.........could be stick figures drawn by a 2-year-old and it'd be fine by me if the story was good.

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» uke-lele on March 23rd, 2019, 1:20pm

Just watched the newly-released trailer of One Punch Man season 2 and this poll seems particularly... poignant

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» residentgrigo on March 23rd, 2019, 1:21pm

I only mind in extreme cases of bad animation. Strong art direction can also immediately save minimally animated shows. JoJo says hello.
Golden Kamui´s adaptation mostly looks like shit in most aspects but it at least adapts the story, despite a very rushed pace. That anime is a good and current example of a minimum requirement that an adaptation has to fulfill art wise to be worthy of watching to the end. Original shows could scale lower in terms of animation but not too far, as the actual rock bottom is within throwing distance.

Musashi Gundoh sits on the other end. No TV anime ever looked worse. I obviously didn't last but I just had to watch a bit to see it´s "artistic" glory in action. You should too! It looks a bad as the no-budget hentai from the late 80s to the mid-90s. What an achievement. Hats off to you Monkey Punch.

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» Nekore on March 23rd, 2019, 6:41pm

Not sure where my limits are but if there's manga then there's a limit, of course this doesn't include animation that it's outdated though it makes it harder to get into it.

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» Sugarshark on March 23rd, 2019, 7:47pm

any threshold is probably fine for me
there was a lot of style duplication in the 70's so it can get a little annoying scanning different themed series and they look like they all have the same artists.
later in the 80's & 90's some writers found acclaim with deliberately surreal and distorted art styles to set themselves apart from the mainstream. I'm thinking Tekkonkinkreet which looks like it was scribbled by the teenaged protagonists
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=4115

and later corruptions of character designs which might favor a moe style which warp facial features, hairstyles, busts and the like, to a point where it breaks your immersion to any story.

if the story is good the art can grow on you

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» alidan on March 24th, 2019, 10:44pm

Berserk, the old one, much of the animation was still frames or VERY little going on, it was excellently executed.

naruto, some of the fights have the best choreography in anime, but the animation was very sparse and used shit tons of shmears to imply motion so stills suck but in motion its great.

it takes something truly horrendous to make me say its a dealbreaker. If I can blatantly see something is cg and its animated like crap, it gets me near the point of dropping it but ill still try.

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» gwkimmy on March 25th, 2019, 8:06am

I think it also depends on what the anime's focus is on, as well.

When I watched Yuri on Ice, I thought the story was okay enough (despite the baiting), but what really pissed me off was that they poured the animation budget into animating one or two characters and almost NOTHING on the actual ice skating itself. Garbage skating animation in an anime about ice skating?! It really affected my enjoyment of the series and made me doubt the intentions of the creators (is this really an anime about skating or queer baiting?)

Great art direction or directing in general can really save a badly animated anime for me. This is more permissible for anime that isn't as focused on action. Action and sport animes should always strive for the best animation, because if that part isn't there, then what's the point?

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» Transdude1996 on March 25th, 2019, 8:15am

Quote from gwkimmy
is this really an anime about skating or queer baiting?

Going by the way I've seen everyone talk about it, and the promo art, the show is fujoshit bait, so the latter.

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» gwkimmy on March 25th, 2019, 7:43pm

It sucks because I'm a fujoshi, so you'd think I'd be thrilled with it. Instead all we got was pure bait and bullshit cutaways so that no "real romance" is confirmed. Just make them a couple goddamnit! Stop stealing the precious animation budget with animating their angst tears!

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» Transdude1996 on March 26th, 2019, 9:17am

Wait, the show is genuine trash even by fujoshit standards? This is news to me because I came to believe that the "Western anime sphere" considered the show to be the best thing ever and literally Shakespeare in "quality and progressive standards".
Spoiler (mouse over to view)
Although, Shakespeare was considered pleb tier trash back in his day and age, but whatever.

And, as far as the animation for the skating, they didn't cheapen out and use CGI, like just about ever idol show does?

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» gwkimmy on March 26th, 2019, 1:07pm

Most fujoshi aren't like me and don't care, they're just thirsty for a mainstream anime that will give them the MLM. Which is fine, I guess. There's a lot more BL anime coming out and I'm excited for like, maybe two of them.

To me, the overarching sports storyline was simple, but well executed. It's a general comeback story, an underdog going against stiff competition and overcoming the odds. On this, I thought the anime was successful in delivering a heartfelt story. The romance plot, however, was so muddled and unclear and so dependent on the will-they-won't-they factor and random nudity to ramp up the tension, UGH. All the praises that people sing about this anime are for sure inflated. It's not a bad anime, per se, but it's definitely not the revolutionary thing that everyone on tumblr made it out to be.

Here's an example of some of the skating animation:
User Posted Image

And here's an example of what they decided to throw more animation budget to:
User Posted Image
they didn't even show the fucking kiss, which makes me even doubt it actually happened lol. everyone was all like CENSORSHIP, but Japan has definitely allowed two dudes to kiss before this anime and after.

In conclusion, I have a lot of bones to pick with this anime, but I will likely watch the second season whenever it comes out. (at least for the OP, which will hopefully be as awesome as the first one)

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» tactics on March 25th, 2019, 10:01am

It has to be pretty bad and clunky for me to stop watching solely for that reason. I don't think I've ever dropped an anime because the animation was bad to be honest.

Reminds me of some anime I've seen where they were strapped for time and they couldn't animate a scene where two characters were talking and instead had a screenshot of the landscape as they spoke 🤣
It didn't happen all the time though, just one off instances so it's not enough to make me stop watching altogether.

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» Karonhioktha on March 25th, 2019, 11:11am

Hard to say, but I guess if art direction is good.
Take the Ping Pong anime for example. Some people were absolutely turned off by the animation, but it worked, and turned out wonderful in the end.

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» MinatoAce on March 26th, 2019, 8:26pm

I only mind in extreme cases of bad animation.

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