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Question: In reality, you're lying in a coma. Everything you've experienced in your life was a dream in your brain. Do you choose to wake up?
No - votes: 882 (25.3%)
Yes - votes: 2610 (74.7%)
There were 3492 total votes.
The poll ended: May 22nd 2021
» Joese on May 22nd, 2021, 5:27pm
But the again doing an overly long flashback explaining EVEYTHING up to that point. Completely ruins this trope for me. I especially dislike it when it isn't done in a fluid or consistent way, and completely halts the current action. In manga, they usually don't want to spoil the action with the narrators insight. So we end up seeing a distorted vision of what the author wants us to see . Which usually is a good terrain for many ass pull plots too milk out a series.
They also use this trope when they stretch the story without telling us a key concurrence the all the characters are conscious of but purposely hide it from the reader over and over. This is even more annoying when it's a pivotal occurrence (ex.: in the Monogatari series we don't really know what happened in the golden week yet it's mentioned in almost every chapter without revealing everything...until later on ) . Nisekoi's whole plot is an example of this . CLAMP excessively abuses this trope.
Up to date I can't think of a manga that has done this well. Except maybe Berserk's golden ark. (Even then they hid some stuff to later throw it at our faces. Like the fairy he met as a child. )
» Trimutius on May 22nd, 2021, 7:51pm
» residentgrigo on May 23rd, 2021, 4:51am
» RoxFlowz on May 23rd, 2021, 8:54am
» Transdude1996 on May 23rd, 2021, 9:10am
No better way to phrase it.
» SKyz007 on May 23rd, 2021, 2:15pm
» juls91 on May 24th, 2021, 6:40am
a situation that i myself went through? or someone else's? and starting in the middle? of what? how do you know there is a "middle"...
it is all rhetorical at this point XD
» mattai on May 24th, 2021, 12:04pm
When done well, you can often feel how well the author has the story planned out in advance.
» hkanz on May 24th, 2021, 8:27pm
» Jooles on May 25th, 2021, 7:11am
Berserk does it excellently, with the small arc (which I can barely, barely remember) before the Golden Age (?). The "Fuck you, Griffith (?)!" creates a tenseness throughout the entire GA. How will he become a God Hand?
(Should probably reread Berserk since I can't remember anything, but I'm still waiting for word if we're gonna get answers to all the questions or not (i.e. a "bible" left behind by Miura). Questions without answers are bleh.)
There's also the added value of enticing a reader, and many great stories start off painfully "slow". It's a quick way of showing its colors quickly, e.g. making promises to the reader that it won't be "slow" forever.
» ebisu on May 25th, 2021, 3:11pm
» YeyiTanemon on May 26th, 2021, 8:13am
First time I read a story like this felt so surprised, though I forgot which book it was 😅
» UpToFourPlayers on May 26th, 2021, 10:03am
» Onsen on May 27th, 2021, 5:32am
If I'm dropped in somewhere, I want to know the resolution, not what led up to it. After the resolution I'm open for flashbacks again. Or during the resolution, like a detective explaining events type of things.
» HikaruYami on May 27th, 2021, 7:29am
It's not like I hate every single time it happens--sometimes, it can be executed in a way that is still enjoyable.
But if you were to ask me whether I have ever encountered a version of it that I thought was better than if they had merely started at the beginning?
I would say no. I don't like cheap shock value and that's all you can really get from it.
If the best execution possible still only matches a normal "start from the beginning" execution, then that means the net effect of the gimmick itself is bad.
That's why I didn't pick "no opinion" even though the gimmick itself doesn't always make me hate the media. It still makes the media worse.
» silvarion on May 27th, 2021, 2:37pm
» dreamer00013 on May 27th, 2021, 10:22pm
Others, not so much.
But those are to show there'll be character growth, and to create curiosity and tension for the rest of the whole manga/story.
So if done right, I really like it. If it's not, it can be quite annoying. I'm not a fan of flashbacks for a reason.
» scarletrhodelia on May 28th, 2021, 10:43am
7 Seeds does this. It starts at the apocalypse, where we see the point of the seeds. We learn who the main characters are and start to root for them. If it had started with the beginning of the "7 seeds" program, and the histories of all the different groups, I think we would have lost interest before we got to the payoff.