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Question: Should cheating / infidelity be considered a punishable criminal law?
No - votes: 2820 (68.9%)
Yes - votes: 1274 (31.1%)
There were 4094 total votes.
The poll ended: August 14th 2021
This poll got a lot of comments in its thread. Apparently there's a lot of confusion between criminal vs. civil law. Consider learning what the difference is.
» Ceiye on August 15th, 2021, 12:57am
Oh but in an ideal world where it could actually be effective, rehabilitation where possible. Deterrence second, incapacitation for if the first two don't work. Retribution through prison feels more like a message that stems from the first three
» VawX on August 15th, 2021, 1:26am
» Transdude1996 on August 15th, 2021, 5:27am
» alidan on August 15th, 2021, 5:38am
» residentgrigo on August 15th, 2021, 7:00am
» kaeleer on August 15th, 2021, 8:21am
I chose retribution though because going to jail is usually seen as a punishment for a crime. Not to rehabilitate those who really need it.
» naeddyr on August 15th, 2021, 9:27am
» vigorousjammer on August 15th, 2021, 9:57am
And, Ideally, prison should be a place for rehabilitation... even though it doesn't seem like that's what it actually is.
» mevan883 on August 15th, 2021, 9:58am
» zarlan on August 15th, 2021, 1:47pm
Ah, so you like slavery, I see.
» zarlan on August 15th, 2021, 1:44pm
Not justice or reducing crime.
Revenge is never justice. (though justice can be revenge)
Any actual studies, show that laws, policies, and sentencing that are more focused on retribution don't actually reduce or deter crime …and only some that focus on deterrence, in the case of some crimes, work. (so deterrence is valid, but only if it's done properly, and only for some crimes)
Rehabilitation/reformation, however, (which the prisons of practically no countries, actually focus much on) is quite effective.
» Transdude1996 on August 15th, 2021, 2:13pm
Would you mind if I posted an article that directly contradicts this?
» HikaruYami on August 15th, 2021, 4:31pm
What prison should be isn't the same thing as what it is.
What it should be is rehabilitation first, deterrence second, incapacitation third, and retribution never. Retribution should pretty much be limited to civil law, I think. Sometimes permanent incapacitation is necessary, though (actual psychopaths).
What it is, in practice, varies by country. I think there a very very small number of countries that at least approximate the above list (though even then retribution is usually third or fourth, not "never" ). But I'm in the US, and our list is approximately "retribution and incapacitation in equal measure, then deterrence, then rehabilitation". Private prisons in particular have absolutely no rehabilitation programs, but at least some of the remaining public prisons attempt to do that to some extent.
» MangaGhost on August 17th, 2021, 11:43am
» HikaruYami on August 21st, 2021, 4:17pm
Sorry, maybe I should clarify slightly. I believe sometimes people deserve to face retribution--if someone tortures and murders your entire family, I would like cops to look the other way when you torture the perpetrator to death in return.
I don't believe courts should ever be a tool to dish out such retribution. That just leads to innumerable slippery slope arguments.
» Sandric on August 15th, 2021, 4:49pm
» UpToFourPlayers on August 16th, 2021, 8:27am
» Jooles on August 19th, 2021, 2:59am
If they aren't, then I hope the goal (hope what will eventually happen) of their time in jail is to keep them from the rest of us until the day they die. Whether that's out of old age, getting shanked, or bleeding out from an anal rape, I really couldn't care less (I just don't believe in the death-penalty)
Rehab or die.
» Sugarshark on August 20th, 2021, 5:15pm
Clyde Barrow famously went into jail on a small time offence and was raped a bunch of times there and came out and wasted no time before killing a dozen people.
and that was a hundred years ago
not much rehab when that's happening
» psirit on August 21st, 2021, 11:54am