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Last of our mini-series of what we call anime and manga.
You can discuss this poll on our forums here:
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=15517
If you wish to suggest poll ideas, go ahead and do so here:
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903
Question: Do you get annoyed when manga is called "anime"?
Choices:
Yes, they're different! - votes: 6812 (51.9%)
Bothers me, but I ignore it - votes: 3048 (23.2%)
Not bothered at all - votes: 2006 (15.3%)
Have heard it so often that I'm immune - votes: 863 (6.6%)
But manga IS anime! - votes: 386 (2.9%)
There were 13115 total votes.
The poll ended: December 12th 2009
Glad that we agree that they're different
Last of our mini-series of what we call anime and manga.
You can discuss this poll on our forums here:
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=15517
If you wish to suggest poll ideas, go ahead and do so here:
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903
Question: Do you get annoyed when manga is called "anime"?
Choices:
Yes, they're different! - votes: 6812 (51.9%)
Bothers me, but I ignore it - votes: 3048 (23.2%)
Not bothered at all - votes: 2006 (15.3%)
Have heard it so often that I'm immune - votes: 863 (6.6%)
But manga IS anime! - votes: 386 (2.9%)
There were 13115 total votes.
The poll ended: December 12th 2009
Glad that we agree that they're different
Comments (limited to first 100 replies)
» Achiyugo on December 12th, 2009, 7:01pm
It sorta bothers me when they're called comics, but I know the people are ignorant and they really are trying their best. But when they start calling it mango, then they've crossed the line into being annoying.
» kaloo on December 12th, 2009, 7:13pm
They are Comics. (And anime is cartoons) Similarly people who use terms like Graphic Novel are just in denial that they like the medium. I admit that the Japanese tend toward very different plots but I stand by my words
» Exotica on December 12th, 2009, 7:40pm
I don't call them comics because they're not comics. But I have to say they are the same, or at least under the same concept. It's just a matter of terms. They AREN'T comics, but they're the SAME as comics. It's the same thing as how you shouldn't call manhwa - manga or manga - comic or comic - manhua. But they're all graphic novels.
» ExzyruSxxx on December 12th, 2009, 8:32pm
I can't believe that 386 people voted But manga IS anime!
» DarkSlushie on December 12th, 2009, 8:46pm
People get too uptight about these kinds of things. Who cares if you call it comics or manga or graphic novels- they're all still the same thing! To tell you the truth, even I sometimes refer to them as Japanese comics. It makes me sound a little less geeky.
» ayashe on December 12th, 2009, 10:25pm
It bothers me a little, but I don't get upset over it.
And once again, anime is not cartoons, it is animation. There is a difference between cartoons and animation. Cartoons are just a type of animation.
And once again, anime is not cartoons, it is animation. There is a difference between cartoons and animation. Cartoons are just a type of animation.
» -`KayalhawK- on December 14th, 2009, 8:30pm
the term cartoons is used to refer to animated cartoons. Look it up on dictionary.com.
» animefan22 on December 12th, 2009, 11:52pm
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» SCKing88 on December 13th, 2009, 12:03am
Mhmm... seems that there is hope for people on here yet. Glad to see some people think before they post, good job.
As he said, comics and manga are not the same; and kaloo, it'd be wise of you to first learn the meaning behind the words you choose to stand by, rather than blindly follow them.
Comics are, as most people here don't seem to know, images used to tell a sequential narrative; and are based on what? Comedy, thus the name comics.
Manga is not so; it is indeed similar at first view, but manga potrays much more character development, as well as attempting to get in touch with the readers themselves. Might I add they are not always comdey based; thus they are not comics.
That's the lesson for today. =)
As he said, comics and manga are not the same; and kaloo, it'd be wise of you to first learn the meaning behind the words you choose to stand by, rather than blindly follow them.
Comics are, as most people here don't seem to know, images used to tell a sequential narrative; and are based on what? Comedy, thus the name comics.
Manga is not so; it is indeed similar at first view, but manga potrays much more character development, as well as attempting to get in touch with the readers themselves. Might I add they are not always comdey based; thus they are not comics.
That's the lesson for today. =)
» Mo-Dean on December 13th, 2009, 9:36am
So when someone outside of japan uses images to tell a sequential narrative that is not based on comedy, what do you call that?
And isn't the literal translation of manga something like "whimsical pictures"? So when someone in Japan uses images to tell a sequential narrative that is not whimsical in nature, what do you call them?
And isn't the literal translation of manga something like "whimsical pictures"? So when someone in Japan uses images to tell a sequential narrative that is not whimsical in nature, what do you call them?
» gringe on December 13th, 2009, 9:42am
The word's origin certainly comes from "comical" as in humorous since that's all comics were originally, but would you bat an eye if someone said "Spiderman comics"? Spiderman isn't about humor but it's still a comic.
I dislike the term "graphic novel" personally and I use "comic" to generically refer to anything that uses sequential pictures and words to tell a story or a joke, including manga.
I dislike the term "graphic novel" personally and I use "comic" to generically refer to anything that uses sequential pictures and words to tell a story or a joke, including manga.
» SCKing88 on December 13th, 2009, 10:37am
I read some of the original spiderman comics; and what your saying is not true. Sure it has action, and superhero antics. Yet it does have a lot of comedy in it; for the more adult tastes. ie: The newspaper bit is meant to be funny "Get me pictures of spiderman!" or the whole "POW, BAM, WHACK!" ect, is all meant to be funny; thus why it can be called a comic. Using the word comic to describe manga which is compltely different while being aware of the fact is just being stubborn. Do you think a novel and a book are the same? They aren't for your information, even if they have the same basics; there are huge differences. FYI, if you can't see them, just give up on this topic; because your behind.
@Mo-Dean: First off, those are manga; just because manga originated in Japan doesn't mean it has to be drawn there, are you serious? Secondly, name a sequential narrative that has absolutely no comedic sense in it,and looks like what manga is; drawn with details, deep character connections, and something that gives the reader a "That happened to me." kind of feeling. You won't find one.
As for the "whimsical pictures", once again; name me something of the sort. All manga is whimsical in nature; there is no such thing as one that isn't. To those narratives that aren't manga, you will ALWAYS find a name for them. ie: Picture books, visual novels, ect.
@Mo-Dean: First off, those are manga; just because manga originated in Japan doesn't mean it has to be drawn there, are you serious? Secondly, name a sequential narrative that has absolutely no comedic sense in it,and looks like what manga is; drawn with details, deep character connections, and something that gives the reader a "That happened to me." kind of feeling. You won't find one.
As for the "whimsical pictures", once again; name me something of the sort. All manga is whimsical in nature; there is no such thing as one that isn't. To those narratives that aren't manga, you will ALWAYS find a name for them. ie: Picture books, visual novels, ect.
» eni on December 13th, 2009, 11:04am
"just because manga originated in Japan doesn't mean it has to be drawn there, are you serious?"
Comics originated in Japan are manga. Comics of the same kind but originated in other countries are manga-influenced comics. I get goosebumps every time when I read about 'European mangaka'. Those are comic artists just as much as Kaori Yuki or Kubo Tite are, just in their cases it's the native language term.
You don't call an American comic artist 'dessinateur' either just because the style is influenced by french comics and you usually don't refrer to french comics as 'bande dessinée' when you're not actually talking in french. So I don't really see the whole hype about manga as a term. It's merely sounding fancy, so people demand it.
Comics originated in Japan are manga. Comics of the same kind but originated in other countries are manga-influenced comics. I get goosebumps every time when I read about 'European mangaka'. Those are comic artists just as much as Kaori Yuki or Kubo Tite are, just in their cases it's the native language term.
You don't call an American comic artist 'dessinateur' either just because the style is influenced by french comics and you usually don't refrer to french comics as 'bande dessinée' when you're not actually talking in french. So I don't really see the whole hype about manga as a term. It's merely sounding fancy, so people demand it.
» SCKing88 on December 13th, 2009, 12:28pm
Also not quite right; because your simply looking at it from our point of view. Going by what your saying, we could just say that manga originated in the US are comics and manga of the same kind in other countries are comic-influenced manga. If you go by simple terms, that is how it plays out; which is utter nonesense.
It's as if you guys simply wish to ignore the differences in art and depth between manga and comics; not to mention origin, thus being satisfied by simply calling it a comic when that is not its name.
Not to mention if you want to start the whole "cultural difference" discussion, in america people refer to manga-like comics as Amerimanga; not comics. So for those that wish to be so right on terms, and "stand by their words" that's what you need to start calling it; or just hush.
It's as if you guys simply wish to ignore the differences in art and depth between manga and comics; not to mention origin, thus being satisfied by simply calling it a comic when that is not its name.
Not to mention if you want to start the whole "cultural difference" discussion, in america people refer to manga-like comics as Amerimanga; not comics. So for those that wish to be so right on terms, and "stand by their words" that's what you need to start calling it; or just hush.
» kaloo on December 13th, 2009, 12:52pm
I actually tend to slap people who use phrases like "Amerimanga," "OEL Manga" and "American Manga" on the back of the head. Manga are Comics but Comics aren't Manga. I would expect anyone who isn't a native English speaker to flip that around for their own terms. (i.e. I expect a Japanese Person to think of all Comics as Manga)
» gringe on December 13th, 2009, 1:03pm
It's worth noting that even in Japan they occasionally call manga "comics" (コミック).
» gringe on December 13th, 2009, 12:33pm
I honestly can't believe what I'm reading.
Well, at least now I know there's no value in debating with you.
Well, at least now I know there's no value in debating with you.
» SCKing88 on December 13th, 2009, 5:44pm
Clearly because you have nothing to say. It's great that we all get a view of how immature you really are. Once you find a worthwhile arguement on why we should use the american term for the japanese manga yet not vice versa; try commenting again.
» gringe on December 13th, 2009, 11:27pm
"Comic" is a broad term while "manga" is a specific classification of comics from a specific part of the world. I thought everyone knew this but apparently not.
» SCKing88 on December 14th, 2009, 6:55am
I see the problem now, your one of those people who would refer to Stem Cell research as just Cell research. It may not be "incorrect" but its not the correct way to address it either; because it is a specific type of cell, thus it needs to be addressed for what it is. Suprised that you haven't been disciplined in that manner... >_>
» gringe on December 14th, 2009, 10:16pm
Just stop.
» Unrequited on December 13th, 2009, 4:41pm
This site gives its own definition directly under the poll.
Glad to know that nearly 40% of the people here are incorrigible idiots.
Those people can try and sound as learned as they want; it's
hilarious.
Glad to know that nearly 40% of the people here are incorrigible idiots.
Those people can try and sound as learned as they want; it's
hilarious.
» SCKing88 on December 13th, 2009, 5:45pm
So because people don't see it the way you do they are "idiots". You sir/mam, are a genuine moron, so refrain from even replying here.
» Durrenn on December 13th, 2009, 8:05pm
It bothers me when people think there IS a difference.
» Jack_T on December 13th, 2009, 9:59pm
I actually enjoy reading comics and manga and in a sense manga is just a Japanese comic.
In fact when I'm trying to explain manga to people who don't understand I have to use the word comic in order to explain it.
I own a ton of manga, just as much as the comics I own and online I've read way more manga.
I am seriously not bothered by this at all and honestly to get more people to read manga I think it should be marketed more through comic book shops.
In fact when I'm trying to explain manga to people who don't understand I have to use the word comic in order to explain it.
I own a ton of manga, just as much as the comics I own and online I've read way more manga.
I am seriously not bothered by this at all and honestly to get more people to read manga I think it should be marketed more through comic book shops.
» ichigo_daisuki on December 13th, 2009, 11:10pm
...doesn't manga mean "comic" in japanese?
Not bothered at all -_-
Not bothered at all -_-
» frostious on December 14th, 2009, 6:08pm
It annoys me more when people insist that manga is NOT comics, as if it not being comics somehow automatically makes it better (and at the same time the reader themselves for not reading "just comics"). A rose by any other name would smell as sweet - comics are comics, no matter where they come from or what you call them.
» -`KayalhawK- on December 14th, 2009, 8:33pm
Calling anime "manga" is like calling animated cartoons "comics". Anyone do that? No, I didn't think so. =/
» miyagiCE on December 21st, 2009, 12:02pm
Props to my good man frostious. You put my exact qualms with this hypocritical community into word.
