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Make money translating manga with Digital Manga Guild
FullArmageddon writes: Digital Manga Guild (DMG) is looking to legitimize scanlations by teaming up with Japanese publishers that will provide thousands of manga titles to be translated by people like you, anyone that can translate, edit, or typeset. You can register either as a group or individual. If you register as an individual, you will be given a title to either translate, edit, or typeset (whatever you registered to do) as a test to make sure you are up to standards. If you register as a group, you will be given a title to translate, edit, and typeset. If you qualify, you will be given more titles to work on. The revenue will then be split three ways; to you, the Japanese publisher, and to DMG. For more information, check out the site and watch the video:
http://www.digitalmangaguild.com/
You can also discuss this on our forums here:
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=22240
http://www.digitalmangaguild.com/
You can also discuss this on our forums here:
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=22240
Comments (limited to first 100 replies)
» Pikapu on November 15th, 2010, 8:09pm
Better idea than that other thing... the website where to pay to read online... whatever it's called. Openmanga or something?
» grundomnia on November 15th, 2010, 8:19pm
heres the big question. Where the revenue gonna come from. If DMG gets a part of the revenue that means DMG wont be the ones paying correct? I also don't think that some agency is going to pay for all this for the public so simply sit back and enjoy. So naturally it does come to say that we will have to pay for it. In my opinion the scanlators should just plain team up with the authors and cut out the middle man cause I can see many problems lying ahead with someone like that.
» o0James0o on November 15th, 2010, 8:20pm
so youre telling me i have to pay? hell no?
and this dude is pretty much telling them to get a job doing their hobby, well fine... but he's also telling the scanlators that he would profit from their non profit works and give them some share and he take 1/3 of it for doing nothing. Nice thinking man.
and this dude is pretty much telling them to get a job doing their hobby, well fine... but he's also telling the scanlators that he would profit from their non profit works and give them some share and he take 1/3 of it for doing nothing. Nice thinking man.
» bra00724 on November 16th, 2010, 12:28pm
That's exactly what I'm thinking about it.
For me it's the same as "paid online reading sites" that use other people work.
I rather buy paper copy.
For me it's the same as "paid online reading sites" that use other people work.
I rather buy paper copy.
» Kizo on November 15th, 2010, 9:11pm
OpenManga was announced several months ago and has yet to materialize. It seemed overly idealist and nonsensical way back when it was first announced, and considering that no news has come from them since July, it's safe to say OM will never happen. Good riddance.
» babel on November 15th, 2010, 8:46pm
"Digital Manga Guild (DMG) is looking to legitimize scanlations"
No, they're looking to make money, just like the online readers.
No, they're looking to make money, just like the online readers.
» firestalker on November 15th, 2010, 9:11pm
I don't see the problem here... Scanlation is ILLEGAL [some people seem to forget that or just don't care]. I enjoy reading scanlations since they usually have series that aren't available in English, but given the opportunity I would go for a legal copy before a scanlation.
If this idea brings more series to english LEGALLY then hell I'm all for it.
What I think though is that all the people out there [the majority from what I can tell] that don't care and only want their cake and eat it too will never pay for it. THen this idea and WNY idea like this will die a quiet death.
Sad, but true.
If this idea brings more series to english LEGALLY then hell I'm all for it.
What I think though is that all the people out there [the majority from what I can tell] that don't care and only want their cake and eat it too will never pay for it. THen this idea and WNY idea like this will die a quiet death.
Sad, but true.
» thevampirate on November 15th, 2010, 9:35pm
it's technically in the gray area of the law. if a series is licensed and disturbed or if a scanlator sells their scanlations then it is illegal however scanlating unlicenced manga without profit can be viewed as a first amendment thing. especially since translating is interpretative and could be viewed as parody (ok that last part was really stretching it but you get the point). without any court case or explicit law to say otherwise it really cant be defined as legal or illegal.
» ocis on November 15th, 2010, 10:14pm
Actually it's entirely illegal. You can argue that merely translating the words in the manga and distributing those online is not illegal but copying the actual work without consent and distributing it is illegal, no matter how many edits you make to it. It's just up to the author or publishing company whether or not it's worth the time and money to pursue legal action.
» Toto on November 15th, 2010, 11:16pm
You can't distribute the translations either.
If you translate it and keep it for personal use (meaning NO ONE ELSE besides the translator sees it), then it's okay... otherwise, no.
If you translate it and keep it for personal use (meaning NO ONE ELSE besides the translator sees it), then it's okay... otherwise, no.
» keita112 on November 19th, 2010, 4:09am
technically the guy your replying to is right. Scanlation fall under the same category as file sharing in sense because the material is "shared " through out the internet, with consent of the original owner.
Owner buy manga-> becomes his property-> Shares property in a virtual area of space-> Shared property becomes public property. throughout this entire process there has been no mutual exchange made, therefore it does not fall under the idea of "illegally distributing". That how to get around the idea of infringing on the owner's copyright. The other problem is that it is not a "reproduction" of the author's work, and is "published" anywhere. It's just being "shared".
However this topic is subjective, and therefore depends on whose interpreting this. but whether you like it or not, it's considered a grey area.
I definitely will not support this group, its a load of bull really, in the end its just a bunch of guys who'll generate a fortune on other people's work. And it totally against the tradition of scanlation and will ruin the very fabric of our subculture which is based on entirely on the love of manga, and our sense of community.
Owner buy manga-> becomes his property-> Shares property in a virtual area of space-> Shared property becomes public property. throughout this entire process there has been no mutual exchange made, therefore it does not fall under the idea of "illegally distributing". That how to get around the idea of infringing on the owner's copyright. The other problem is that it is not a "reproduction" of the author's work, and is "published" anywhere. It's just being "shared".
However this topic is subjective, and therefore depends on whose interpreting this. but whether you like it or not, it's considered a grey area.
I definitely will not support this group, its a load of bull really, in the end its just a bunch of guys who'll generate a fortune on other people's work. And it totally against the tradition of scanlation and will ruin the very fabric of our subculture which is based on entirely on the love of manga, and our sense of community.
» Malkalvi on November 16th, 2010, 12:23am
It's a load of crock! The arguments against this are numerous. And coming from a leading publishing firm, I can say that this will stiff the middleman and not take off.
» silverado on November 16th, 2010, 1:52am
If this goes online the community will be split into Scangreeders and Scanlators where the best follow the money and the newbies own unpopular series. *Arr*, how I love capitalism. Replace the intrinsic motivation with a monetary one and you get corruption even in a honor based system.
THIS IS THE NEW AGE! BE PREPARED AND GET USED TO IT!
THIS IS THE NEW AGE! BE PREPARED AND GET USED TO IT!
» themasterwarlord on November 16th, 2010, 2:10am
I thought it was a great idea.... Until I saw this.
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WHY DO THEY HAVE TO START FROM YAOI
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Q. What genres will be offered?
A. Currently we are planning to start off with mainly yaoi titles, but eventually we will add more mainstream genres like shoujo and shounen.
A. Currently we are planning to start off with mainly yaoi titles, but eventually we will add more mainstream genres like shoujo and shounen.
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WHY DO THEY HAVE TO START FROM YAOI
» noobzilla on November 16th, 2010, 2:57am
April fools joke most likely... if they are starting with yaoi titles, they're probably looking for 16 year old fujoshis...
» rakisei on November 16th, 2010, 5:38am
I guess its easier to convince yaoi publishers lol
» Pikapu on November 16th, 2010, 1:22pm
...Gross. My disinterest starts now. ._.
» jennieve01 on November 16th, 2010, 5:43am
They mentioned something like a total of 1000 yaoi titles. Considering they are working with mostly bl publishers and the majority of the books dmp publishes are under its june and dokidoki lines I wonder how many scanlators here would actually be interested? Plus you don't get paid until someone buys a copy of the final work. then you get a cut of it along with dmp and the publisher.
Its an interesting idea and I think it will find its niche but considering how many people think of yaoi as a hobby and how many of the fans are to young to buy this online or not willing to pay much for a digital edition I wonder how this will work. I wonder if this has anything to do with them joining that manga coalition and sending C&D letters to yaoi scanlators.
Its an interesting idea and I think it will find its niche but considering how many people think of yaoi as a hobby and how many of the fans are to young to buy this online or not willing to pay much for a digital edition I wonder how this will work. I wonder if this has anything to do with them joining that manga coalition and sending C&D letters to yaoi scanlators.
» zabuza10 on November 16th, 2010, 2:23pm
To hell with this idea! I mean why yaoi? Are they trying to reignite again the hunt last months? The hunt started with the discovery of mangas with malicious content on the net then affecting the whole community. Possibilities are this is a fraud or a bait to lure out AGAIN scanlation groups.
» Drakron on November 16th, 2010, 6:14pm
I have no idea what you mean by "hunt" as we have several incidents, one being Google adSense that caused online readers to take down "offensive series" as there was another by the manga coalition also on online readers that caused some to shut down.
Neither was caused by Yaoi series (granted adSense likely targeted such series by comments I read about the whole affair) as the only strike I know against Yaoi series was C&D notices from Yaoi English publishers to Yaoi translation groups.
You do understand they dont need to "bait" scanlation groups, they can easy find them as many groups have been C&D over the years, I have the idea they are going with Yaoi because its one of those genders that professional translators do not want to work with.
Neither was caused by Yaoi series (granted adSense likely targeted such series by comments I read about the whole affair) as the only strike I know against Yaoi series was C&D notices from Yaoi English publishers to Yaoi translation groups.
You do understand they dont need to "bait" scanlation groups, they can easy find them as many groups have been C&D over the years, I have the idea they are going with Yaoi because its one of those genders that professional translators do not want to work with.
» traeni on November 16th, 2010, 5:51am
Out of 30 companies that I have approached, six companies have verbally agreed to come though. I'll bet kodansha, shuseisha and square enix are not part of the six.
» Lasikuu on November 16th, 2010, 6:06am
I think it's a mistake to get the publisher involved in this, as they always take their lion's share. With the internet, the manga industry could just ditch (or at least lessen the presence of) the publisher, just like the gaming industry and the music industry is slowly slowly doing.
Now if the publishing companies get into online manga business they might keep taking their lion's share.
Now if the publishing companies get into online manga business they might keep taking their lion's share.
» Ferozban on November 16th, 2010, 8:05am
sounds like scam the people from mangahelpers came up with.
i wouldnt give a damn about this.
i would advice people to be careful about this. they don't have the communitys prosperity in mind. they just want to make money with your scanlations like Tazmo and the fallen from grace Mangahelpers.
i wouldnt give a damn about this.
i would advice people to be careful about this. they don't have the communitys prosperity in mind. they just want to make money with your scanlations like Tazmo and the fallen from grace Mangahelpers.
» Name-Undecided on November 17th, 2010, 11:23am
I'd rather be paid upfront, if it's all the same to them.
