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New Poll - Unwanted Pairing
This week's poll is from our member xCrystal. The question is a little long, and it applies to a very specific situation, but have at it. Ichigo 100% anyone? I bet most of us would still keep reading, but we'd be super mad in the end.

You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related):

Previous Poll Results:
Question: Would paper quality affect your decision to buy a physical copy of the manga?
Paper quality matters a lot! - votes: 1999 (18%)
I'd buy as long as paper quality was above a certain minimum value - votes: 6219 (56.1%)
Bad quality is fine - votes: 220 (2%)
Don't care - votes: 2638 (23.8%)
There were 11076 total votes.
The poll ended: September 22nd 2012

The follow-up question is what is your "minimum"... As a side comment, it's amazing how people don't accidentally tear their Bibles apart since many Bibles use the thinnest paper you'd ever see in a book.
Posted by lambchopsil on September 22nd 9:26am Comments ( 38 )  [ View ]  [ Add ]

» Baniita on September 22nd, 2012, 2:53am

Ugh, it's hard to say. But that's not why I stopped reading Bleach. (Ichihime supporter here.) (I stopped reading because v22+ went completely downhill.)

It depends how much focus on romance the series has, and how important the pairing is to that person. If Naruto went with Sakura at the end instead of Hinata, I'd still continue reading, albeit reluctantly, because Naruto is really freaking good, and Kishi-sensei has kept up the quality really well.
With Beelzebub, I know Oga will end up with Helda, but I'm still going to root for Kunieda. Though I mean HeldaxKunieda, not OgaxKunieda. Ohohoho! Even if the former happens, I'll keep reading because that manga is absolute gold, ignoring the flaws in the art. (The mangaka can't draw heels to save his life. He also has no fashion sense.)
With Negima!, I was rooting for an impossible pairing anyway (hint: Fate). I kept reading for the story, though.
Not many people are satisfied with the pairings in Harry Potter, but they read it nonetheless (while grumbling) because, well, it's such an amazing series.

But if my main series DGM, if the protagonist got the girl, I'd drop it immediately and even send complaints (if that pairing happened, it'd be just to feed the masses. Their relationship feels too incestual.) That's becoming less likely, fortunately. Hopefully, the protagonist whom I love so dearly will die together with the other one I love dearly. That's my ideal ending, anyway. Ohohoho...
If it were Kashimashi, which is heavily romance based (yuri), where the main character chose the really annoying childhood friend with unstylish and homely pigtails, over an elegant flower, I'd stop and burn the whole series. Of course.


» tactics on September 22nd, 2012, 3:15am

I would still keep on reading, because for me, it's not a strong enough reason to drop a series because I didn't get the couple I wanted to see get together. It's not my story, it's the mangaka's, and if they wanted to end it with that couple, then so be it.


» Whatever on September 22nd, 2012, 3:48am

If its a long series I drop it. I dropped Nana as soon as I realized she would get stuck with
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the long haired cheater. Nana O, Nobu, both, or even Hachi remaining single would have been better.
I really loved this series at one point but I hate that character so much. It felt like his arrival was the start of a downfall. It was so fun before he showed up.


» renseih on September 22nd, 2012, 4:16am

Continue reading. Simple, there's not many pairings I like. If I get picky on every one of them, there'll be no more manga left to read.

More times than not, I don't like the protagonists.


» ReaderM on September 22nd, 2012, 6:04am

Keep reading mainly. There are a few pairings out there that I can't stand or know what happen no matter how much I wish for it.Besides sometimes good authors will throw you for a loop or two in the process with the pairings. I'm not one to Rage quit a series over a pairing though Ichigo 100% was the one manga that has pushed me the closest to doing such that.


» har12430 on September 22nd, 2012, 6:49am

Why is there no "I dont care what the final romantic pairing is going to be" choice?


» Badkarma on September 22nd, 2012, 10:40am

Quote from har12430
Why is there no "I dont care what the final romantic pairing is going to be" choice?

Probably because it defeats the purpose of the question?

If "you don't care what the final romantic pairing is going to be," then you weren't really rooting for anyone to begin with, were you?

Me? I don't care who ends up with who. So how did I vote? I didn't. Why? Because I DON'T CARE.


» Stoner on September 24th, 2012, 10:21am

But then, why would you post these kinds of biased polls? Unless you don't want a clear answer, I don't see the point in this poll.
(by you i don't mean you the person i'm replying to.)

The person who asked the poll obviously seems to care. I voted i'll continue reading, but I have to add that it will seriously kill my enjoyment of the seris. It's like the parfait thingie series. Like, the guy says i'll go back and tell her my feelings, and when he gets there she already went with the other guy right after they separated. I have to say I dropped that series since updates were infrequent too.

If they switch the romantic interest, they better have a reason that makes sense and not some bullshit decision. I have to say I'm lucky, most pairings end like i want them too.


» Badkarma on September 24th, 2012, 6:39pm

Quote from Stoner
But then, why would you post these kinds of biased polls? Unless you don't want a clear answer, I don't see the point in this poll.
(by you i don't mean you the person i'm replying to.)

Biased poll? It's not, really. Sure, it targets certain people, but it's still polling for an unbiased answer within that target group. A biased poll is asking the KKK who'll win the next US presidential election, and then using that as credible information.

It's also literally impossible for a poll to contain every little stipulation, particularly polls that are made for fun, not their written-in-stone consensus. That's why we discuss it?

Meanwhile, I'm writing angry letters to Tiger Beat because their latest poll "Would you hold your crush’s hand at school? (Y/N)" excludes graduates, psychopaths, and asexuals. Unbelievable.


» Dionaea on September 22nd, 2012, 7:26am

I picked "drop", but that's mainly because with the type of manga I tend to read the main characters not ending up together is so retarded that the manga deserves to be dropped. I don't tend to read manga with multiple pairing possibilities, because I absolutely hate the drama usually associated with it. I read manga to relax, not to be annoyed and tense.


» CuthienSilmeriel on September 22nd, 2012, 9:46am

I don't think I've ever had a preferred pairing where there was a choice, and if I have, I haven't cared enough to make it worth dropping a manga.


» shonryukku on September 22nd, 2012, 9:55am

why it there no i don't have favorite pairing option, i read lots of romance but i don't play favorites

next poll should be should be how many choices should a poll, as much as the asker wants, enough to satisfy every conditions, the one choices the asker wants and a other choice, muffin button


» hollabaloo on September 22nd, 2012, 11:41am

I'd keep reading because in the end I'm there for the story as a whole and not the romance, but I'm always a little disappointed when the final pairing is main character / first guy/girl he or she meets in the story. That goes double when the main character has more romantic chemistry with someone else anyway or the love interest is super dull and is more of a trophy for the main character once he/she wins at everything. I'm sure it could be done by a talented enough writer, but I can't remember the last time it was done well. Usually it's just cliched and boring. I think the biggest problem I have with the whole thing is that the final pairing is often telegraphed by the author but they'll still try to pay lip service to the idea that there's a possibility of the main character ending up with someone else. Everyone already knows that won't happen, so in the end it's pointless.

I just don't want the whole first love thing to work out 100% (or some other ridiculously high number) of the time, is that too much to ask? At least give them some actually meaningful bumps in the relationship to overcome, geez.

tl;dr I want more realistic romances


» 0oKat~0 on September 22nd, 2012, 12:02pm

I would drop the series, I guess.

Actually, "drop" isn't really the right word. Since I will still go search for wiki summaries and future updates on the storyline if I really like the main character. I'll just abstain from reading the actual manga, and just go hunt for fanfics or doujins of the pairing I like.


» QueenVIP on September 22nd, 2012, 12:05pm

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I dropped GE (Good Ending) after I realized that Utsumi still has lingering feelings for Kurokawa Yuki, even after having sex with his first love crush.

It just means that Utsumi and Yuki will somehow go back to being lovers.


» Cthylla on September 22nd, 2012, 2:23pm

I rarely read romances, and the ones I do don't have all these extra love interests and junk, it's just the two main characters and their life and turmoil and whatnot.


» thevampirate on September 22nd, 2012, 2:23pm

I like most Jump romance series however Ichigo 100% really pissed me off. I wish i knew he who he would end up with at the beginning and i would have dropped the series right there. At least the anime has him paired up with the main chick. On the other hand a series like bleach or naruto I could care less who he ends up with (although I've dropped both for lack of progression, and the story just sucks now IMO).

Another series that had a bad romantic ending was TLR and judging from the first chapter of TLR-D it looks like its going to be a harem ending as well.


» Mamsmilk on September 22nd, 2012, 3:43pm

The pairings are always wrong, so whatever. In a harem situation the guy always chooses to go for the worst chick. Typically the tsundere kind that is being bratty and annoying the whole series, having no other qualities but the moe stereotype. As for reverse harems, the guys are such caricatures that the romance turns into a satire. They never end up with a decent human being, but with some over the top, mentally lagged character. Stuff only works out if it's a story about two people growing to need each other, not turmoils of a flat-headed polygamist.


» Crenshinibon on September 22nd, 2012, 5:52pm

Quote from Mamsmilk
The pairings are always wrong, so whatever. In a harem situation the guy always chooses to go for the worst chick. Typically the tsundere kind that is being bratty and annoying the whole series, having no other qualities but the moe stereotype. As for reverse harems, the guys are such caricatures th ...

"Turmoils of a Flat-Headed Polygamist" would be a great name for an album. I recommend it next time you take it upon yourself to write an indie rock anthem.

On topic: Don't drop, but I also haven't read much bad romance with the possibility of such an ending in years.

Realism over wish-fulfillment is a good philosophy.


» AndyProk on September 22nd, 2012, 4:31pm

I have no clue whatsoever. While there is the occasional case of a pairing not going as I might have preferred it, so far there hasn't been any such case where I knew of it beforehand. I guess it would depend on the case in question.
Well, when I suspect the ending to be different from what I'm expecting, I continue reading in the hopes of it turning out for the better further down. Any sex with the wrong partner results in demerits though (Ii's for example), and ending with the wrong person does as well, unless written quite skillfully.
Usually though the author makes it quite clear who will end up with whom pretty early on and develops the final partner more than their rival (apart from introducing them earlier than most, if not all, others), which normally results in me rooting for whoever ends up with the protagonist anyways.
And yeah, like someone else said, I wish I never even looked at Ichigo 100% - worst ever so far.


» Darkness44 on September 22nd, 2012, 5:35pm

I wouldn't drop the series for that basis alone. Although I can agree with the sentiment that if the pair didn't work out in the end, at least understand the reason why and look at it from a logical standpoint, not just a biased one. I, for one, loved Ichigo 100%.

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On another note, I'm one of the many(yes I said many) that rooted for the JunpeiXTsukasa pairing. It didn't matter to me who Junpei really ended up with, but he had the best connection with Aya throughout the story, imo. However, it was Tsukasa that truly made him fall for her and she reciprocated those feelings when they became a couple again. Aya didn't have enough confidence to share those feelings all the way until the end, and let's face it, a generic character like Junpei, who's a huge idiot with a lot of heart, didn't understand his situation to begin with.

It's a damn treat when your favorite pair gets chosen in the end but a huge blow for those that went with the other.


» auriga on September 22nd, 2012, 10:02pm

at least understand the reason why and look at it from a logical standpoint, not just a biased one


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I also belong to the "many" you're referring to. Ichigo 100% remains my most reread and beloved shonen romance series and I wouldn't have it end any other way. I started cheering for Tsukasa during her second birthday "celebration" (iirc) when she and Junpei snuck into their old middle school, and I haven't looked back since.

On the topic, I would continue reading. IMO, dropping a series because the couple you were rooting for didn't end up together is kinda... childish. I read romance not simply for the final pairings but to discover how those final pairings came to be.

Romantic pairings aside, I also love spoiling myself. I'm the type of guy who reads the last page first, lol, and I believe I have never dropped anything because I didn't like the things I learned.


» Darkwap on September 23rd, 2012, 4:51am

I would probably drop it in most cases. I normally read manga that has only one pairing so I don't really have to choose my favourite pairing. If the story of the manga is good enough to keep reading it, i'll ignore the pairing. If the pairing is understandable then i'll still keep reading it as well. (Promises with childhood friend usually do the trick for me)

This is one of the reasons why I don't read harem manga. It makes people choose a favourite character and then if its not that character the whole manga would just get ruined for them.


» StephKuran on September 23rd, 2012, 7:02pm

It really depends on the manga. But since romance+good story are rare to find, I usually drop.

If I were to do so, it's because a) The only interesting fact was the final pairing; b) I really liked the unlucky character; c) That character was the backbone (but for some reason lost).

I can recall 2 stories this year deserving that.


» tsuyutonamida on September 23rd, 2012, 7:22pm

I think it really depends on the genre. For instance, if there was a romantic pairing in a manga like Hikaru no Go (haven't finished the series yet, so I don't know if there is) I wouldn't really care because romance is not the main focus. In a series where it is, it just isn't worth it to continue reading, especially with a lot of the manga being rife with stereotypical characters (the polite one and the fiery one). Unless the romance has something behind it to keep me reading it, it is probably going to be dropped. (Ex:
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The anime True Tears, such a disappointing pair outcome, but an interesting anime.)


» AceBunneh on September 24th, 2012, 8:04am

I will be perfectly honest... Even when the mangaka strongly hints at it and makes it so you absolutely love a pairing, I pretty much usually don't care and don't think about it in romance manga... Rarely ever at the very least.. So I just continue reading it.


» crazyboutcute on September 24th, 2012, 9:30am

Like a lot of other people said, I don't really get too worked up about the romance in the series if I'm not specifically reading a romance. (That, and usually, I just look for the Ho Yay between the guy characters! ^_^;; ) So I'd keep reading because I rarely have a favorite pairing anyway. However, if the relationship between any two important characters were to become a Romantic Plot Tumor and start overtaking the story, I'd be more inclined to drop the series. (A la Vampire Knight, though the plot was starting to derail as well by the time I decided to drop it.)

Other than that, it's usually very easy to tell who's going to end up with who pretty early on in a manga! bigrazz


» Ascension on September 24th, 2012, 2:36pm

I loved Ichigo 100%, and i was expecting Manaka to end up with Toujo Aya, but i was rooting for Tsukasa.... The ending that the author chose is honestly the best ending i can see... It's really one of the few mangas that i actually think ended perfectly.


» ilovebhong on September 24th, 2012, 7:09pm

Quote from Ascension
I loved Ichigo 100%, and i was expecting Manaka to end up with Toujo Aya, but i was rooting for Tsukasa.... The ending that the author chose is honestly the best ending i can see... It's really one of the few mangas that i actually think ended perfectly.

A perfect ending always has a wedding involved! Haha ~


» dokko-dokko on September 24th, 2012, 5:56pm

Quote from "lambchopsil"
As a side comment, it's amazing how people don't accidentally tear their Bibles apart since many Bibles use the thinnest paper you'd ever see in a book.

"how" and "where" matter a lot with this topic ::
(1) people treat their Bibles more carefully than they do their manga. (2) plus -- and this is a reach but still a safe bet -- folks who read manga probably read their manga more than they read their Bible, i.e. more mileage, more damage. (3) people read their Bible in a more secure way / location than they read their manga. personally, i mostly read my manga either lying down and/or holding it more precariously than i would any other books... like in bed holding it upside down, in car with one hand with a cup of coffee or something, or sitting on the throne in the can (<--- this).


» story645 on September 24th, 2012, 9:37pm

4) Not all bibles are made of tissue paper. Mine (Hebrew/English old testament) are made of decent, sometimes heavy, paper-I've got prayer books that are a bit over 15 years old and have done quite a bit of traveling and they're still holding up quite decently.


» PansyWansyLinsy on September 24th, 2012, 10:28pm

The answer is pretty clear cut for me given that I only shoujo and josei, so if there so happens to be some type of love triangle where the heroine ends up picking the wrong guy, I quite simply drop it. Not that that happens often in shoujo anyway, because it's usually obvious who the love interest is supposed to be - even in reverse harems. I guess this question is more directed to people who read shonen where romance is often secondary. I don't see the point of continuing to read a shoujo if the character you're rooting for loses out since there's really not much else of a story outside the romance.


» yarn on September 25th, 2012, 4:23am

I chose "I don't read any romance." Which isn't true, but (comparatively) I don't read much. Or at least, not the ones where there's a harem, and there's actually a choice of pairings.

If there were an option of "I don't ship couples" then I would have picked it.


» whatnot on September 25th, 2012, 5:26am

4th option: bash the series

... and the author while I'm at it

... not forget to rate it 1 in mangaupdates


» hollabaloo on September 29th, 2012, 6:31pm

uh...why? Serious question.


» tribal2199 on September 25th, 2012, 8:30am

About 70% of the series I've read so far have had pairings I didn't really agree with (ex. Ichigo 100%) but, I still finish them. I admit greatly annoyed but it's the way it is.


» sophie0 on September 25th, 2012, 12:03pm

Well, with most of the manga I read it's pretty much obvious who the main pairing's going to be, so it isn't that much of an issue. But there have been two cases I can remember where the author's choice really pissed me off. (When a man loves a man by Youka Nitta.) I was so mad afterwards that I couldn't sleep - I had spent most of the day reading the series and I just couldn't believe it ended the way it did. Even though it was the obvious choice, the final relationship felt unhealthy and abusive to me. So the next time I encountered something similar, I stopped, and I think I will continue doing so in the future. Mostly, I read manga for entertainment, and when I'm pissed off, I'm most definitely not entertained.


» Hatez17 on September 27th, 2012, 1:21am

The worst pairing ever would be Hayate and Nagi. I wanted Hinagiku to be paired with Hayate. Nagi is a lame child who is also a boring tsundere. Also Yoichi should've been paired with Ayame. Man it pissed me off!


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