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Previous Poll Results:
Question: Favorite Pokemon movie
Pokemon: The First Movie - Mewtwo Strikes Back - votes: 3344 (34.2%)
The Power of One (Pokemon: The Movie 2000) - votes: 1026 (10.5%)
Pokemon 3: Spell of the Unown - votes: 285 (2.9%)
Pokemon 4Ever: Celebi - Voice of the First - votes: 180 (1.8%)
Pokemon Heroes: Latios and Latias - votes: 318 (3.3%)
Pokemon: Jirachi Wish Maker - votes: 79 (0.8%)
Pokemon: Destiny Deoxys - votes: 77 (0.8%)
Pokemon: Lucario and the Mystery of Mew - votes: 205 (2.1%)
Pokemon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea - votes: 90 (0.9%)
Pokemon: The Rise of Darkrai - votes: 90 (0.9%)
Pokemon: Giratina and the Sky Warrior - votes: 27 (0.3%)
Pokemon: Arceus and the Jewel of Life - votes: 40 (0.4%)
Pokemon: Zoroark - Master of Illusions - votes: 28 (0.3%)
Pokemon the Movie: Black - Victini and Reshiram - votes: 18 (0.2%)
Pokemon the Movie: White - Victini and Zekrom - votes: 10 (0.1%)
Pokemon the Movie: Kyurem vs. the Sword of Justice - votes: 16 (0.2%)
Pokemon the Movie: Genesect and the Legend of Awakened - votes: 28 (0.3%)
I hate them all - votes: 720 (7.4%)
I never watched a Pokemon movie - votes: 3184 (32.6%)
There were 9765 total votes.
The poll ended: October 4th 2013
Now if we could match that with how many people only saw the first movie... And I decided not to do the favorite Pokemon game poll for a couple of reasons. One is that it seems it'll just have a backlash with a bunch of people never playing a Pokemon game before. Another reason is because it'd be more fair to have X and Y as options, as initial review impressions say it's quite good. Comes out October 12 for the Nintendo 3DS.
» philip72 on October 5th, 2013, 12:13am
Lolicon, sword fights, guro, rape, violent deaths, genocide, battles, guns, incest and all the other stuff manga is full of aside, we're going to fret about "bullying" and whether it should be in manga?
No, every single manga should have 3.5 panels devoted to anti-bullying messages per chapter, all battles will now be fought with hugs, and biannually there should be "a very special chapter" where the MC kills and eats a bully.
» rychels on October 5th, 2013, 12:38am
I was looking for the "it's unrealistic and cliched" choice. Although the first thing that popped into my head was shoujo manga bullying.... Really? I seriously doubt that normal middle or high school girls go around pushing pots out of second story windows or surround one girl and cut her hair off. Not to mention those ridiculous ones where the bully tries to hire someone to RAPE the protagonist.....
If the bullying was done more realistically or if the bullying was more a manipulative psychological attack, it might be more interesting to read and could prod character development. (Cyber bullying anyone? Why can't I recall any manga with that?) More often than not, it's used to prod the plot along instead.
I think shounen manga does it slightly better or maybe I just gloss over that part. But again, kinda boring. Been there done that.
Abuse in any form usually isn't realistically portrayed and it becomes glaringly obvious when the person who suffers from chronic abuse suddenly gets over it in two chapters with the help of their new soul mate and "rehabilitates" the bully into best friends forever!!!
Sorry for any disjointed thoughts (and long post)... It's like 3:30 in the morning and I'm currently running on fumes.
» Sorcha on October 5th, 2013, 1:29am
» caitnap on October 5th, 2013, 5:29am
it really depend on the author, sometimes bullying is needed in a plot and often used to show how weak the MC is. It's a symbol of weakness in manga.
Black Haze is a recent manga/webtoon I read who use bullying, then give us a satisfying feeling to see the bullying crushed. *grin* it feels very good to see it.
» Pervserk on October 5th, 2013, 6:20am
» nakie08 on October 5th, 2013, 6:45am
» Rampachs on October 5th, 2013, 8:32am
» That3rdGuy on October 5th, 2013, 8:42am
I can't believe people actually chose "It's unpleasant, so don't show bullying." Must bring back bad memories for those people. Bullying, to a degree, is needed in society. Many people push it too far, but there's always going to be a pecking order in life. Get used to it.
» Banarok on October 5th, 2013, 10:48am
» kitty1826x on October 5th, 2013, 11:06am
Sometimes it really is unrealistic and cliché, but other times I find it adds more depth to the story.
I only seem to like the bullying in mature mangas because that's where the pain and suffering from the bullying seems more realistic.
I don't really like any of the choices I agree with
Generally I feel like it's forced in some stories, but in the ones that aren't I love them.
» 0oKat~0 on October 5th, 2013, 11:13am
That said, I'll go with the "helps with character development" option. Since most authors do have a reason for including bullying scenes. It could be because they want to show an aspect of the MC's personality, or to get the MC's personality to grow in a particular direction. Although, I would admit that many bullying scenes are over-dramatised and not executed as well as it could have been... *shrugs*
» batoxx on October 5th, 2013, 12:04pm
» achyif on October 5th, 2013, 12:34pm
» Mamsmilk on October 5th, 2013, 1:30pm
» LilyNanami on October 5th, 2013, 1:34pm
» nakie08 on October 5th, 2013, 5:23pm
I've always wondered about that. I watched a lot of american movies and TV series that show cruel bullying in schools in the US. Does that really happen? I don't think that happens in schools in my country. I can't imagine students dunking heads in toilets or pulling up other people's underpants or tying naked guys on the school flagpole.
» whitespade on October 5th, 2013, 7:31pm
» Millennia_Curse on October 5th, 2013, 9:11pm
I voted for cliche. In most of the manga i've read, the bullying feels unrealistic. Just the way they usually act just doesn't seem to fit. It's not like it's over the top, its just...poorly executed. The bullies just seem like ...plot devices.
and I don't know how many i have read where this one little kid gets a bunch of rocks thrown at him by a group of other little kids.
Edit: didn't like what i said.
» vishavs on October 5th, 2013, 11:12pm
Yet it can also be a very personal issue, and any absolute stance such as "Bullying should never be included" is a crude rule. If a manga is more relate able to some readers because they experienced an event similar to the protagonist, let it be. It could also help people who had bullied others in the past understand the pain it invokes in the victims, which helps build empathy and develops the reader psyche.
As a side note, I've withdrawn readership to many manga because of the stiff utilization of themes related to and including bullying. It takes a wise author to understand when bullying is useful and when it is detrimental to the reader.
An example of where bullying is useful as a plot device can be seen it "The Breaker" or "Girls of the Wild". I've seen more cases were it wasn't used very well though.
» imercenary on October 6th, 2013, 4:24am
1. Is the use of bullying in manga realistic?
2. Is the use of bullying in manga cliche?
» General No.6 on October 6th, 2013, 5:37am
Actually, I'm also not sure some of the clichéd methods like toilet dunking are really used, but then again, I read an article once about how parents organised afterschool brawls for their kids so I guess anything is possible.
Ah, personally I like it when the characters use innovative and refreshing ways to solve the bullying problem, normally it's a comedic plot that has this though.
» Trimutius on October 6th, 2013, 2:31pm
» Fantasier on October 6th, 2013, 8:22pm
» chrum on October 7th, 2013, 1:40pm
But usually it's really cliche and over the top. The least realistic one I've come across would be Hana Yori Dango. Pushing bullying to an organized event, bordering on making it a school tradition.. that's a no for me.
Maybe I'm wrong, but bullying reminds me of either purely psychological abuse (excluding from a group, nasty remarks, blackmail) or actual, pure violence (colloquially: beating to a pulp after school).
No to mention that such methods would be appropriate in a, maybe, elementary school. Imagine a 17-year old , "serious"school bully trashing someone's desk?
» Bronia on October 7th, 2013, 4:49pm
If it was used really well, I think bullying would make a fantastic tool for character development in manga, but most authors tend to choose the easy route.
» mysstris on October 7th, 2013, 7:34pm
#1 In bullying mangas, of course it helps with character development (or at least that's supposed to happen) but I wouldn't say so matter a fact-ly "let's have it" just because it does that.
#2/#4The amount of realism of bullying in mangas isn't so relevant I think because no matter how shallow/cliche/extreme/horrifyingly unrealistic it may seem, what we read in mangas no matter how improbable (and cliche), it is not impossible. Therefore even in extreme bullying mangas like "LIFE", although it looks excessive, it's just painful to know that that is how real bullying can get.
#3 I wouldn't say it's good to have bullying because they get what's coming to them but I would say bullying in manga is a good way to represent the issue in one way and get people aware of it
#5 I'd say this isn't a good excuse for not wanting to see bullying in mangas. It may be unpleasant but it feel like this option is ignoring the existence of bullying.
When I read over other people's posts, they mention the cliche bullying in shoujo mangas. (kind of like all the things that Kyoko from Skip Beat said happened to her when she was in middle school with Shou.) Mmmm...I understand where people are coming from in that regard but again, no matter how improbable, it is not impossible. (even if it is 1 in a million)
I also don't know what people mean when they say bullying done in a believable way. I mean when you hear about violence in the news and what's being reported, sometimes it's absurd yet it still happened no matter how "un" believable it is.