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Group Links Removed
As some eagle-eyed users have noticed, all website and forum links for all scanlation groups have disappeared. In addition to this, none of the IRC links are clickable anymore; they remain as plain text. We regret to inform all of you that we have received a DMCA takedown notice. Of course, we wish to keep MangaUpdates running, so we had to resort to these measures. The representative of the group that submitted the DMCA has so far said these actions are enough.
Despite these changes, our release and group submission policies remain the same. Releases must be from scanlation groups that exist according to MangaUpdates, meaning they must have a group entry. In order to have a group entry, the group still needs to submit one or more of the following: website, forum, Twitter, Facebook, and IRC channel. The website and forum will not be displayed anywhere on MangaUpdates though. These pieces of information will be for our own purposes in order to verify the existence of a release. We continue to strive to display accurate information for all series, groups, and releases, so we will check the validity of every submitted release. If you feel a release is fake, you can submit a Change Request, and we will double check your claim.
Thank you for continuing to use MangaUpdates.
- lambchopsil & Manick
Despite these changes, our release and group submission policies remain the same. Releases must be from scanlation groups that exist according to MangaUpdates, meaning they must have a group entry. In order to have a group entry, the group still needs to submit one or more of the following: website, forum, Twitter, Facebook, and IRC channel. The website and forum will not be displayed anywhere on MangaUpdates though. These pieces of information will be for our own purposes in order to verify the existence of a release. We continue to strive to display accurate information for all series, groups, and releases, so we will check the validity of every submitted release. If you feel a release is fake, you can submit a Change Request, and we will double check your claim.
Thank you for continuing to use MangaUpdates.
- lambchopsil & Manick
Comments (limited to first 100 replies)
» hamzah555 on December 3rd, 2013, 9:29pm
goddamnit
» Milleniummaster18 on December 3rd, 2013, 10:44pm
My thoughts exactly.
» ughman on December 4th, 2013, 1:56am
Mangaupdates is just a database. The last time they send was to remove the dl links, and now the website of the scanlators.
Its like reading yellow pages just list of names blank telephone numbers.
This is totally bullshit.
Its like reading yellow pages just list of names blank telephone numbers.
This is totally bullshit.
» yuri999 on December 4th, 2013, 2:36am
Quote from ughman
Mangaupdates is just a database. The last time they send was to remove the dl links, and now the website of the scanlators.
Its like reading yellow pages just list of names blank telephone numbers.
This is totally bullshit.
Its like reading yellow pages just list of names blank telephone numbers.
This is totally bullshit.
I was searching for the right analogy to use but this hits the nail right on the head. In fact I suspect this will further damage the DMCA notice issuers cause because people will start learning even more google keywords and learn about the existence of more manga sites that they never would have otherwise known about.
» monkry on December 4th, 2013, 3:05am
Quote from ughman
Mangaupdates is just a database. The last time they send was to remove the dl links, and now the website of the scanlators.
Its like reading yellow pages just list of names blank telephone numbers.
This is totally bullshit.
Its like reading yellow pages just list of names blank telephone numbers.
This is totally bullshit.
beautiful comparison
» Daisukereds on December 4th, 2013, 5:10am
As with anything, you get used to things with time
» Akillarian on December 3rd, 2013, 9:30pm
You have to do what you have to do.
» licorice on December 3rd, 2013, 9:30pm
Damn...
» zilentworld on December 3rd, 2013, 9:31pm
thats sad. welp i guess i have to go google the group now
» Chinmay on December 3rd, 2013, 9:33pm
Such sad news for convince!
I'm just gonna have to go and make a Favorite toolbar folder with links to each group site, that should fill up within a month of all the manga groups I read manga from.
The future of freedom seems narrow!
IDK I feel like sites like this will need to head in the Crunchyroll route, despite most people hating it at the start, because of the lack of content over time it became an alright place!
I'm just saying the amount of manga I have bought plainly because of this site after reading many manga is to grand I can say probably in the last few years spent like $2500+ on manga and anime.
This site actually help, in that regards a connection with magazine group to this site would be nice.
Anyway for now as long as we have actuate database of manga in existence and its status this will still be the best manga database ever!.
I'm just gonna have to go and make a Favorite toolbar folder with links to each group site, that should fill up within a month of all the manga groups I read manga from.
The future of freedom seems narrow!
IDK I feel like sites like this will need to head in the Crunchyroll route, despite most people hating it at the start, because of the lack of content over time it became an alright place!
I'm just saying the amount of manga I have bought plainly because of this site after reading many manga is to grand I can say probably in the last few years spent like $2500+ on manga and anime.
This site actually help, in that regards a connection with magazine group to this site would be nice.
Anyway for now as long as we have actuate database of manga in existence and its status this will still be the best manga database ever!.
» Bloodkay on December 3rd, 2013, 9:38pm
Sad times. I guess it doesn't change much for us (it's simply 1-2 more steps to get to the release), so long as you guys are toeing the line on the safe side, I won't argue. MangaUpdates still remains to be the best site around for tracking my favorite series.
Keep up the good work, guys.
Keep up the good work, guys.
» makoz on December 3rd, 2013, 9:40pm
I'm glad that this was enough. Who's the complainant? I'm surprised they went for the middleman.
» licorice on December 3rd, 2013, 9:50pm
I doubt they'll tell us. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they were informed to NOT say who they are when addressing their readers about the notice.
» FormX on December 3rd, 2013, 10:05pm
The day has come ... hopefully this is it, not the beginning.
Usually the case.
Quote from TKS
I doubt they'll tell us. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they were informed to NOT say who they are when addressing their readers about the notice.
Usually the case.
» Hinokai on December 3rd, 2013, 10:09pm
Could be Crunchyroll, recently opening their manga department and all.
» deadphoenix on December 3rd, 2013, 10:00pm
Might it be possible to delete the links of only for groups with DMCA contents.
It becomes rather difficult to moderate the releases without a link.
I've got the feeling that the one that gave the DMCA complain, just wants mangastreams homepage away.
Might it be possible to add releases from groups that release on online readers now?
It looks ok as long as the name of the reader doesn't appear.
Yesterday, I discovered one of my favourite series to be scanlated 50 chapters ahead.
Anyway, the most important thing about Mangaupdates is still the information and the ability to hold list.
I've tried to hold list with an excel document in the past, but this is impossible with the large variety of links that some series have.
New groups will be in problem now.
They release their stuff and the online readers runs away with it. Online reader become richer and the situation becomes worsen.
What are the license holders thinking, to give their arch enemy the control of the marked.
Non-profit sites like mangaupdates are the only ones that give them income (the minority of people that read scans,but also buy the real manga can be found on the non-profit sites. Their is more than enough proof for this (a lot of stuff that isn't scanned has a rating.)
It becomes rather difficult to moderate the releases without a link.
I've got the feeling that the one that gave the DMCA complain, just wants mangastreams homepage away.
Might it be possible to add releases from groups that release on online readers now?
It looks ok as long as the name of the reader doesn't appear.
Yesterday, I discovered one of my favourite series to be scanlated 50 chapters ahead.
Anyway, the most important thing about Mangaupdates is still the information and the ability to hold list.
I've tried to hold list with an excel document in the past, but this is impossible with the large variety of links that some series have.
New groups will be in problem now.
They release their stuff and the online readers runs away with it. Online reader become richer and the situation becomes worsen.
What are the license holders thinking, to give their arch enemy the control of the marked.
Non-profit sites like mangaupdates are the only ones that give them income (the minority of people that read scans,but also buy the real manga can be found on the non-profit sites. Their is more than enough proof for this (a lot of stuff that isn't scanned has a rating.)
» maine12329 on December 3rd, 2013, 10:54pm
I second this motion! not all groups have violated the DMCA and this may stifle scanlation largely. 
» kronpas on December 4th, 2013, 12:31am
Im going with batoto link list for the time being.
» kitty1826x on December 3rd, 2013, 10:06pm
I surprised this thread isn't locked ... ( I wonder if I'm jinxing it )
I see how a notice got sent, sad that it did though
I see how a notice got sent, sad that it did though
» kayue on December 3rd, 2013, 10:13pm
Perhaps you (or someone else) could create a grand "scanlation group address list" whereby one could find the group without specifying what manga they scanlate.
It would take one more step for us to find the group, but such a list shouldn't be illegal.
(I wonder who filed the DCMA. It would have to be pretty generalized to affect all titles.)
Edit: Also, weirdly enough, I suspect that this will make the situation worse for the "legitimate" sources of manga since it will drive readers to aggregate sites since it will be "easier" to find titles there.
It would take one more step for us to find the group, but such a list shouldn't be illegal.
(I wonder who filed the DCMA. It would have to be pretty generalized to affect all titles.)
Edit: Also, weirdly enough, I suspect that this will make the situation worse for the "legitimate" sources of manga since it will drive readers to aggregate sites since it will be "easier" to find titles there.
» Scyfon on December 3rd, 2013, 10:22pm
» philip72 on December 3rd, 2013, 10:23pm
Can you post the DMCA?
This sounds excessive. Some of us here (not me) are lawyers and law students and would like a chance to peruse it.
This sounds excessive. Some of us here (not me) are lawyers and law students and would like a chance to peruse it.
» panos on December 3rd, 2013, 10:32pm
Excuse me for the ignorance but besides the link to the scanlators and the irc link the website will continue to work normally? Cause I have all my manga stored in here with ratings and reviews and I would be devastated if something further occurs.
» philip72 on December 3rd, 2013, 10:51pm
Sorry Panos, I have no clue.
This is all quite suspicious, they haven't even told us who the shady group who issued this extremely overreaching takedown notice is, and there's no legal reason why they can't.
I think MangaUpdates has been cowed and intimidated by aggressive legal posturing. The takedown submitters representative probably can't believe their great fortune in that it actually worked. Of course they're fine with removing all the links, they hadn't a leg to stand on to begin with.
This is all quite suspicious, they haven't even told us who the shady group who issued this extremely overreaching takedown notice is, and there's no legal reason why they can't.
I think MangaUpdates has been cowed and intimidated by aggressive legal posturing. The takedown submitters representative probably can't believe their great fortune in that it actually worked. Of course they're fine with removing all the links, they hadn't a leg to stand on to begin with.
» philip72 on December 3rd, 2013, 10:30pm
Also how does linking to scanlators sites violate the DMCA? Furthermore why not just take down the links in the notice? Though rights holders may wish it does, the DMCA doesn't work that way.
Something doesn't seem right here.
Something doesn't seem right here.
» kihi on December 3rd, 2013, 11:03pm
Groups links dont violate DMCA since the copyright has nothing to do with links. The person who send the DMCA is one shady figure.
» kihi on December 3rd, 2013, 10:50pm
Can you please post the source of DMCA and the DMCA itself i think the fans have the right to know since it effect all of us. I'm sure there is nothing about not "do not disclose this DMCA" is it does they are not following the proper legal system.
publisher in a nutshell
publisher in a nutshell
» GhostWriter on December 3rd, 2013, 10:55pm
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
» REGIS_JOSE on December 3rd, 2013, 11:12pm
» Lilanar on December 3rd, 2013, 11:12pm
Bad news. Readers were visiting scanlators' sites less and less these past years anyway. I can't help but think how much illegal sites such as Mangafox, etc. are going to benefit from this.
» Milleniummaster18 on December 3rd, 2013, 11:25pm
I understand the "we can't afford to be sued" mentality here, but that doesn't mean MU has to be a glutton for legal harassment. I trust you did your homework before taking this decision.
In my opinion, whoever group's threatening to sue is overextending their hand. It might be a bogus claim.
In my opinion, whoever group's threatening to sue is overextending their hand. It might be a bogus claim.
» mysstris on December 4th, 2013, 12:06am
This doesn't make any sense to me.....why target MU? like others have said, sites like MF are just going to profit more..Big Brother stay out of it!
this isn't going to stop me from continuing to use this site though, it's not like I don't know how to use google.
this isn't going to stop me from continuing to use this site though, it's not like I don't know how to use google.
» kihi on December 4th, 2013, 12:16am
oh my dear, haven't you noticed already DMCA always target sites with nothing to lose (monetarily).
» misc on December 4th, 2013, 12:11am
F**k this s**t!!!
A fourth of what I've read depends on the links provided here damn it, because I read a lot of doujinshis, and you're going to go through hell if you try to find those doujinshis' scanlators' websites through google. I don't understand the legal procedures very well but can't there be like, an option for scanators to decide whether they want to publicise their websites or not? I'm sure a lot of scanlators would want, no, NEED such option, since big names probably won't be affected by this but what about new groups that haven't established a name for themselves yet? How are they supposed to advertise their works, and what the hell am I supposed to do now to visit 'young' scanlators when I don't even have any mean?
» bakaliner on December 4th, 2013, 12:26am
For those that think that admin is overreacting please read http://www.chillingeffects.org/linking/faq.cgi. Can't blame them. But they surely could tell us who is the jackass that send that notice. If the one who send it have any legitimacy than we could only be silent. But if the one who send it is just a nobody.... then let hell be unleashed upon them. 
But if the one who send it is just a nobody.... then let hell be unleashed upon them. » red255 on December 4th, 2013, 12:37am
Honestly, Not sure I will continue to use mangaupdates.
sorry. I could ask about what form the DMCA notice came to cow you into action. what exactly it took for you to effectively shut the site down.
Obviously this is a developing situation.
but your actions have removed any reason for me to visit this site.
so unless you do something by the time I check back in a few days I'm going to never visit again.
sorry. the sad thing is, I don't even think you got an actual notice. from WHO exactly?
sorry. I could ask about what form the DMCA notice came to cow you into action. what exactly it took for you to effectively shut the site down.
Obviously this is a developing situation.
but your actions have removed any reason for me to visit this site.
so unless you do something by the time I check back in a few days I'm going to never visit again.
sorry. the sad thing is, I don't even think you got an actual notice. from WHO exactly?
» Hostile on December 4th, 2013, 4:38am
I completely agree. This site finally got what it wanted and removed group links by making up some lie like they did when they took down DL links. Even if they had a problem they could clearly hire an expensive lawyer to take care of matters but it seems like they don't care about their members anymore.
» pyonk on December 4th, 2013, 12:45am
Seriously?? Really??
can someone help me understand why this is happening but site like mangafox continue to exist?
i mean, if posting hyperlink to scanlation site is illegal and they ask to take it down, why online reader still standing?
can someone help me understand why this is happening but site like mangafox continue to exist?
i mean, if posting hyperlink to scanlation site is illegal and they ask to take it down, why online reader still standing?
» eirini_kl on December 4th, 2013, 12:52am
Mangafox has its servers in China, which means it's not subject to US law and therefore the DMCA can't control it. Well, the only thing to be done is google the scanlator sites we read manga from and store the adresses to a favorites list. It's a bit more work but nothing we can't handle. The most important thing is that the reading lists and updates remain intact.
» pyonk on December 4th, 2013, 1:31am
I see, but why all the hyperlinks?? I dont think they hold copyright for all the scanlation..
This is suspicious, really.
This DMCA things really pain in the ass. but oh well, we are in a grey area anyway.
I live in third world country where there is no DMCA-shit around except a tight censor for pornography where even Mangafox and other online-reader manga site is blocked by nawalaproject-shit from my shitty gvernment for porn reason
This is suspicious, really.
This DMCA things really pain in the ass. but oh well, we are in a grey area anyway.
I live in third world country where there is no DMCA-shit around except a tight censor for pornography where even Mangafox and other online-reader manga site is blocked by nawalaproject-shit from my shitty gvernment for porn reason
» Harimau on December 4th, 2013, 12:54am
Sigh.
» GuttedGnome on December 4th, 2013, 12:56am
Copyright trolls? Who or what that is registered in the US have the legal right to send a DMCA notice for every single manga that exist on here? I can smell something rotten about this.
» coa88 on December 4th, 2013, 12:57am
This is serious bullshit. There's no way a link to a scanlator's site would be an infringement. Sure, everything you want can still be found out there but this is just bothersome. You should remove all the links to the publishers sites as well, just to be on equal footing.
» Mercenary09 on December 4th, 2013, 12:59am
muh convenience. Oh well. I figured something like this when I noticed at least a few pages having no links.
» Reyalsdog on December 4th, 2013, 1:00am
That's totally retarded - removing links to sites and forums, but letting stay facebook and twitter where posted same links to manga. Why no making referral to some anonimisers then?
And MU wasn't good with links to begin with, and now it's only updates and catalog. Yes, updates and manga catalog is important, but finding those updates will be a pain in the ass, not to mention finding old releases. And you know it's only beginning.
And MU wasn't good with links to begin with, and now it's only updates and catalog. Yes, updates and manga catalog is important, but finding those updates will be a pain in the ass, not to mention finding old releases. And you know it's only beginning.
» eirini_kl on December 4th, 2013, 1:05am
Btw, batoto has links to scanlator sites as well so you can find them there easily. When will those fellows learn there's no way to control the internet...
» Damnedman on December 4th, 2013, 1:07am
Can't say this doesn't sound sketchy. Does DMCA really give copyright holders that much power? It's not like the MU is linking directly to the download pages.
» Hinokai on December 4th, 2013, 1:09am
What is this, the DMCA equivalent of a Pay-up-or-else scheme? Send a ridiculous notice and then go 'Oh, but we can begrudgingly accept you removing all links from your site'.
How absurd.
How absurd.
» Unrequited on December 4th, 2013, 1:14am
So is there another site similar to this that posts links? PM in case I guess.
» Zuan on December 4th, 2013, 1:17am
What I don't understand is why remove the IRC links too... That makes zero sense. My first link to manga was to this site and had this site not had any links to the scanlators themselves and the IRC too, I would not be reading manga or watching anime at this point. I learned the basics of IRC to navigate to release on IRC only groups.
I would love to see the DMCA notice. As probably many, such as myself, have been a member for many years (6 for me as of last month) it would be nice to be able to see, confirm and argue its validity. Any other site that I have ever been a member of that has received a DMCA at least gave us the courtesy of presenting it.
I would love to see the DMCA notice. As probably many, such as myself, have been a member for many years (6 for me as of last month) it would be nice to be able to see, confirm and argue its validity. Any other site that I have ever been a member of that has received a DMCA at least gave us the courtesy of presenting it.
» PROzess on December 4th, 2013, 1:39am
It was a great era with Mangaupdates.
It's sad to see it come to an end like this.
Thanks for all the efforts up to this point.
RIP
It's sad to see it come to an end like this.
Thanks for all the efforts up to this point.
RIP
» zenaku2005 on December 4th, 2013, 1:42am
This sound highly suspicious, It sounds like someone is trying to channel this site traffic to theirs.
More importantly the DMCA have no rights to shut down sites that are not hosting/uploading copyrighted material, Take MediaFire for example the links that contains the copyrighted materials were just taken down while those that weren't under the DMCA stayed up.
So removing the links to sites that may or may not contain materials under the DMCA makes sense as much as this
While it's true that some sites where taken down due to posting links but in all instant these links were HYPERLINKS in other words click-able links, Posting non click-able links as a normal text should be O.K. otherwise it will violate the First Amendment of Constitution and if they can do that will....
More importantly the DMCA have no rights to shut down sites that are not hosting/uploading copyrighted material, Take MediaFire for example the links that contains the copyrighted materials were just taken down while those that weren't under the DMCA stayed up.
So removing the links to sites that may or may not contain materials under the DMCA makes sense as much as this
While it's true that some sites where taken down due to posting links but in all instant these links were HYPERLINKS in other words click-able links, Posting non click-able links as a normal text should be O.K. otherwise it will violate the First Amendment of Constitution and if they can do that will....
» pyonk on December 4th, 2013, 2:02am
Quote from zenaku2005
While it's true that some sites where taken down due to posting links but in all instant these links were HYPERLINKS in other words click-able links, Posting non click-able links as a normal text should be O.K. otherwise it will violate the First Amendment of Constitution and if they can do that will...
This. why dont we do this? it makes sense.
although i dont really know how wide DMCA apply on this, whether posting web or site address with normal text considered as infrigement or not. If not, can we just use this method?
» Lilanar on December 4th, 2013, 2:36am
Quote from zenaku2005
This sound highly suspicious, It sounds like someone is trying to channel this site traffic to theirs.
More importantly the DMCA have no rights to shut down sites that are not hosting/uploading copyrighted material...
More importantly the DMCA have no rights to shut down sites that are not hosting/uploading copyrighted material...
So true. It's really fishy. And I don't know why only one other site comes to my mind that no one has been able or really tried to stop it even when they're hosting popular copyrighted/licensed series.
» brunoais on December 4th, 2013, 5:29am
Quote from Lilanar
So true. It's really fishy. And I don't know why only one other site comes to my mind that no one has been able or really tried to stop it even when they're hosting popular copyrighted/licensed series.
The problem here is the "enabling" part of the agreement. So it still is possible but reeeealllllly suspicious.
» romance20 on December 4th, 2013, 2:00am
if you can't have the links, can you at least have the address of the site written on the page so then we don't have to look for it.
» Rashidisw on December 4th, 2013, 2:13am
This is doing disservice to scanlator groups, as they will got less visitors, and that means less revenues from ads.
while they mostly can't monetized the ads on their facebook & twitter link, as those ads revenues goes directly to facebook & twitter companies.
while they mostly can't monetized the ads on their facebook & twitter link, as those ads revenues goes directly to facebook & twitter companies.
» gwkimmy on December 4th, 2013, 2:14am
hmmm....does this mean we can't post scanlator site links anywhere in the forum either?
if so...sjdlasjdlkjalkjdaldjaskljdlaj
if so...sjdlasjdlkjalkjdaldjaskljdlaj
» Elemhunter on December 4th, 2013, 2:16am
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» connerity on December 4th, 2013, 2:23am
There is a multitude of fishy things going on here.
Foremost, the removal of links for ALL groups, not just ones where there is actually material that falls under the DMCA.
Sounds to me like someone from a profiteering online reader like mangafox wants to make some more profit by making scanlators harder to reach.
Foremost, the removal of links for ALL groups, not just ones where there is actually material that falls under the DMCA.
Sounds to me like someone from a profiteering online reader like mangafox wants to make some more profit by making scanlators harder to reach.
» Reyalsdog on December 4th, 2013, 2:29am
More like Crunchyroll. Especially since they were bought by other
Spoiler (mouse over to view)
and jew
group not so long ago, and they have manga service now.» En Do on December 4th, 2013, 2:28am
Dam...but well as long as i can check the releases because i'm following a lot of series it's okay.
also, anyone notice this sentence?
"The representative of the group that submitted the DMCA has so far said these actions are enough."
so there are figureheads huh...
also, anyone notice this sentence?
"The representative of the group that submitted the DMCA has so far said these actions are enough."
so there are figureheads huh...
» ersatz on December 4th, 2013, 2:33am
This is really funky, at least restore the adresses in simple text. They can't forbid that, it's ridiculous.
I agree with so many people in this thread that I don't even know what to quote... please say something lambchopsil...
I agree with so many people in this thread that I don't even know what to quote... please say something lambchopsil...
» annebel on December 4th, 2013, 3:03am
Uh, this is bad. But if the rest stays as it is, it will be ok for me. We all know how to use a search engine.
Only to think about your database and the daily releases will disappear one day makes me mad.
Only to think about your database and the daily releases will disappear one day makes me mad.
» derpMonster on December 4th, 2013, 3:28am
I kinda think this will protect the groups actually. Let the aggregators bear the brunt of whatever may come, they're the ones profiteering.
» Cainam on December 4th, 2013, 3:32am
Umm... So I try to read all the replies here, but I stopped at the end of the first page (no offense, but all I see is meaningless talk and complain).
What I get is that all the groups link and IRC are forbidden and limited to just facebook and twitter. So it's alright then if a group have either facebook or twitter and put their site link there. Or maybe some kindhearted people can make a fan page in facebook a kind of manga updates which create notes filled with groups' links.
What I get is that all the groups link and IRC are forbidden and limited to just facebook and twitter. So it's alright then if a group have either facebook or twitter and put their site link there. Or maybe some kindhearted people can make a fan page in facebook a kind of manga updates which create notes filled with groups' links.
» tactics on December 4th, 2013, 3:34am
...
Well this is bullshit.
I agree with whoever said that you should keep the website address there, but not link it. If that makes any difference. I don't see how linking to a website is bad in the first place. The downloads I could understand, but this? Rubbish.
Same old though. Hit the easy targets. Never go for the big guns.
Asshats.
Well this is bullshit.
I agree with whoever said that you should keep the website address there, but not link it. If that makes any difference. I don't see how linking to a website is bad in the first place. The downloads I could understand, but this? Rubbish.
Same old though. Hit the easy targets. Never go for the big guns.
Asshats.
» Gleam on December 4th, 2013, 4:05am
Seems like beginning of the MU's demise. How soon it would be before another DMCA's letter will come claiming that it's unlawfull to even mention scanlation group? After that would be notice about mentioning releases itself.
Why MU staff so weak for pressure? The demand to remove link just to the one whole site where infringing links MAY BE posted is already pushing it. The demand to remove all links indisciminately is nothing less than outrageous, because, if nothing other, there's no company which has full copyright to ALL manga mentioned on MU.
Why Google's stance can't be employed? If someone sending them letter about some search engine results, they check, if sender REALLY has the right for mentioned material and if material is really beyond fair use, and only THEN google remove links. With mentioning who was sender and which links (in plain text) was removed.
P.S. Maybe I should start to search another source of information. With current state of things this one may not live long.
Why MU staff so weak for pressure? The demand to remove link just to the one whole site where infringing links MAY BE posted is already pushing it. The demand to remove all links indisciminately is nothing less than outrageous, because, if nothing other, there's no company which has full copyright to ALL manga mentioned on MU.
Why Google's stance can't be employed? If someone sending them letter about some search engine results, they check, if sender REALLY has the right for mentioned material and if material is really beyond fair use, and only THEN google remove links. With mentioning who was sender and which links (in plain text) was removed.
P.S. Maybe I should start to search another source of information. With current state of things this one may not live long.
» kuraixdesu on December 4th, 2013, 3:57am
I don't know if I missed anything, but as long as updates are provided, I'm sure we're not entirely that lazy to click a few more buttons to access the updated releases.
But having said that, MU just needs another method to verify legit releases, which I thank you guys for working around this problem for us dedicated lurkers.
But if the updates are no longer provided... That's when I see red.
But having said that, MU just needs another method to verify legit releases, which I thank you guys for working around this problem for us dedicated lurkers.
But if the updates are no longer provided... That's when I see red.
» Nyajinsky on December 4th, 2013, 4:04am
damn, where are anonymous when you need them?
» Pionfou on December 4th, 2013, 4:08am
To be fair, it's not that much harder to get links to scanlators websites so the site still serves it's purpose more or less. Googling the group name is usually enough to get it done, if not adding scans/scanlations to the end will do it for the vast majority of the remainder.
If you go to the scanlators site enough it's just Ctrl+T-address, which might even be faster. Slightly annoyed this happened after I deleted my collection of bookmarks of scanlator websites because it turned out to be mostly useless but oh well.
If you go to the scanlators site enough it's just Ctrl+T-address, which might even be faster. Slightly annoyed this happened after I deleted my collection of bookmarks of scanlator websites because it turned out to be mostly useless but oh well.
» Kitsame on December 4th, 2013, 4:18am
Wait... what?
Someone told you to remove html links to other sites and you complied?And not just specific sites, but all of them?And you did it?
Are you guys retards?You were not keeping DL links, you were just keeping html links to other sites and that is not law breaking offense.They can only send notice to scanlators since they are official law-breakers.
Also, since you deleted all html links they are "satisfied"?Sounds like you got conned hard.
And what is the point of your site, now that you deleted links to other sites?
Someone told you to remove html links to other sites and you complied?And not just specific sites, but all of them?And you did it?
Are you guys retards?You were not keeping DL links, you were just keeping html links to other sites and that is not law breaking offense.They can only send notice to scanlators since they are official law-breakers.
Also, since you deleted all html links they are "satisfied"?Sounds like you got conned hard.
And what is the point of your site, now that you deleted links to other sites?
» panos on December 4th, 2013, 7:54am
Couldn't agree more. This whole thing seems fishy to me and will push away scanlators from this site. And why won't the website name won't be displayed anywhere and instead just delete the link. Either they were conned hard or bribed to act this way.
» ampzz on December 4th, 2013, 4:43am
This has just made me remove B-U from my bookmarks list as I won't even bother coming ehre again.
Good fucking bye to this.
Good fucking bye to this.
» sunao26 on December 4th, 2013, 4:44am
Holy crap, people are being so rude here (and dumb).
I'd rather not have any links anymore if that means MU won't go down. Thanks guys for your great work as always. I've been using this website for 9 years now haha.
I'd rather not have any links anymore if that means MU won't go down. Thanks guys for your great work as always. I've been using this website for 9 years now haha.
» D_P on December 4th, 2013, 5:37am
>wanting to keep a trashy site up and running
lol.
lol.
» caitnap on December 4th, 2013, 5:17am
O_O now it will be harder to find scanlation group
guess I will sport "Google" on another tab each time I come here
guess I will sport "Google" on another tab each time I come here
» turek101 on December 4th, 2013, 5:28am
Could somebody tell me which groups submitted the DMCA i wanna know for whom i must buy bigger glasses because i think they are blind.
Someone suggested if u can post link without directlink it would help to go faster to groups homesites is it possible ?
and btw some sites change they country of server just to make money and they dont give a **** about groups why they dont they accuse them instead
Someone suggested if u can post link without directlink it would help to go faster to groups homesites is it possible ?
and btw some sites change they country of server just to make money and they dont give a **** about groups why they dont they accuse them instead
» yuri999 on December 4th, 2013, 6:09am
What's done is done. Either this decision will be reversed or a new manga database site will come up soon.
» ayumisingo on December 4th, 2013, 6:10am
don't worry guys it still easy to find the group just block the grup name and search from google and 
» neuron2 on December 4th, 2013, 6:39am
One less reason to visit MangaUpdates.
» cris0327 on December 4th, 2013, 6:40am
In this past years many take down on free file hosting site and isp putting Bandwidth cap on their service and now this.Look like the internet is will also following "Nothing Is Free in this World" policy.
» 668 on December 4th, 2013, 7:07am
Pls it's just as everybody said just put the address as plain text and we are done. that cant be illegal right?
» cmertb on December 4th, 2013, 7:07am
Here are the stats for visits to the site of one of my groups (the smallest one).
This means pretty much the death of most scanlator web sites (and of MU as well). Scanlators will be working for Mangafox, Mangareader etc even more than in the past. It's a huge win for online readers. Do I want to continue scanlating in this environment? I'm not sure anymore.
This means pretty much the death of most scanlator web sites (and of MU as well). Scanlators will be working for Mangafox, Mangareader etc even more than in the past. It's a huge win for online readers. Do I want to continue scanlating in this environment? I'm not sure anymore.
» 90tables on December 4th, 2013, 7:32am
Maybe you could make a twitter and add it to your MU page and link your site in your profile information? Better than nothing. This is worrying 
» licorice on December 4th, 2013, 7:35am
Its reason for existing has not disappeared. We tell our readers there are alternative ways to obtain our scanlations other than aggregators, but their ignorance and/or laziness could be beginning of the end, not MU's fault.
» PROzess on December 4th, 2013, 8:50am
Why even bother going on?
All hope is lost.
MU was our last fortress.
Or we just go to the superior Mangafox.
Saves you the 1-2 steps to search in google.
Much more convenient.
All hope is lost.
MU was our last fortress.
Or we just go to the superior Mangafox.
Saves you the 1-2 steps to search in google.
Much more convenient.
» Mizuyuki on December 4th, 2013, 7:24am
so what's next? removal of groups/scanlators name?
» licorice on December 4th, 2013, 7:42am
Another user posted this earlier. Re-adding for the lazy: http://www.chillingeffects.org/linking/faq.cgi
Maybe we should the servers to Canada...
Maybe we should the servers to Canada...
» GuttedGnome on December 4th, 2013, 8:46am
Quote from TKS
Another user posted this earlier. Re-adding for the lazy: http://www.chillingeffects.org/linking/faq.cgi
Maybe we should the servers to Canada...
Maybe we should the servers to Canada...
Well, that's the issue, linking to the homepage of a scanlator group is as much copyright infringement as linking to Google or even The Pirate Bay homepage. Whoever sent that DMCA notice couldn't hold their ground in any serious law abiding court.
Now, if it was a link (hot, hyper or magnet linking etc) directly to an infringing file that's obviously different.
» yasew on December 4th, 2013, 7:43am
MU without Group Links = Like Plant without root.
Move server to Asia >Ignore DMCA
Move server to Asia >Ignore DMCA
» Reyalsdog on December 4th, 2013, 7:50am
Make some add-on for browsers which will add links for sites on client PC. Like
https://github.com/MilesWilford/MangaUpdatesImprover
https://github.com/MilesWilford/MangaUpdatesImprover
» maskokot on December 4th, 2013, 8:11am
I Just started to work on solution for "Group Links Removed" problem only:
On Release page, it adds LINK next to group link that does Google search for you in new page.
I came up with this in like 5 min. It works for Opera as User JavaScript.
// ==UserScript==
// @name Add Group Links
// @include http://www.mangaupdates.com/releases.html*
// ==/UserScript==
(function (){
for (var i = 0; document.links[i]; i++)
{
if (document.links[i].title == 'Group Info')
{
// change the link
var a = document.createElement('a');
a.title = document.links[i].innerHTML + "Link";
a.innerText = "LINK";
a.target = "_blank";
a.href = "http://www.google.com/search?q=" + encodeURIComponent(document.links[i].innerHTML +" manga group");
document.links[i].parentNode.appendChild(document.createTextNo de (" "));
document.links[i].parentNode.appendChild(a);
}
}
})()
On Release page, it adds LINK next to group link that does Google search for you in new page.
I came up with this in like 5 min. It works for Opera as User JavaScript.
// ==UserScript==
// @name Add Group Links
// @include http://www.mangaupdates.com/releases.html*
// ==/UserScript==
(function (){
for (var i = 0; document.links[i]; i++)
{
if (document.links[i].title == 'Group Info')
{
// change the link
var a = document.createElement('a');
a.title = document.links[i].innerHTML + "Link";
a.innerText = "LINK";
a.target = "_blank";
a.href = "http://www.google.com/search?q=" + encodeURIComponent(document.links[i].innerHTML +" manga group");
document.links[i].parentNode.appendChild(document.createTextNo de (" "));
document.links[i].parentNode.appendChild(a);
}
}
})()
» iceaco on December 4th, 2013, 8:13am
You guys who said 'I will not visit MU anymore and will visit website X instead' are pretty much listing possible suspects o_O
» kainord on December 4th, 2013, 8:38am
Until mangaupdates continues to maintain it's database and refresh the releases nothing is lost. If we can see which group released what, we can track the group trough 1 or 2 steps with a search engine.
» Unknown on December 4th, 2013, 8:55am
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